🥀 Veinflowers 🥀

Please check pinned post before interacting... Collective of known 3 Bodily born in ‘07

[veinflowers]

Reworking intro so here's just a temp pinned message

(This is most important to us right now to inform.)

ANYONE WHO REBLOGS OUR POSTS WITH THE #syscourse TAG (or similar) WILL BE BLOCKED (no matter which side you are on). I don't care if you are on our side. We do not want to be involved or associated with any syscourse/drama.

Even so, we block freely.

Also, most of our collective are adults. We are not comfortable with comments or messages from minors. You may still reblog or like our posts but do not expect a response from us.

However, we will also block NSFW blogs or blogs that may have triggering sexual content as we have some minors in our system and some of the adults in our system still are uncomfortable with such things.

Collectively, we go by he/it pronouns and are collectively trisgender since a lot of us either cisgender or transgender but our body may does differ from the typical requirements of both those terms. For example, I, the host, am a cis male but our body is AFAB.

Please keep in mind that we have frequent burnout and may not answer comments or asks right now (if our answering is prompted). We’re also Autistic.

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I just learned that some people use third person pronouns to address themselves and prefer it when others use those too to address them.

How do I go about trying that out? How to inform people around me that I want to do that in person too?

I think I want to try it out because it might help lessen my social anxiety and depression which usually revolves around social aspects of my life or things that happen to me that are confusing/make me think I'm going insane. So emotionally distancing myself from myself in language, I think, might help with that. And also, I heard it helps with decision making which I often have choice fatigue.

Does anyone on this site use third person pronouns to address themselves?

I heard it's called illeism.

Most people I know of who use this way of speaking are fellow Autistic people so I'm adding the neurodivergent and actually autistic tags to this post.

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Blurry formed and doing this now. Don’t prefer using pronouns though. Am okay with saying “self” or collective pronouns now. First person just uncomfy. Blurry feels a little like test subject for this though but Blurry okay with that. “Blurry” is person but also a state of mind. Might need nickname for Blurry to differentiate.

[veinflowers]

I just learned that some people use third person pronouns to address themselves and prefer it when others use those too to address them.

How do I go about trying that out? How to inform people around me that I want to do that in person too?

I think I want to try it out because it might help lessen my social anxiety and depression which usually revolves around social aspects of my life or things that happen to me that are confusing/make me think I'm going insane. So emotionally distancing myself from myself in language, I think, might help with that. And also, I heard it helps with decision making which I often have choice fatigue.

Does anyone on this site use third person pronouns to address themselves?

I heard it's called illeism.

Most people I know of who use this way of speaking are fellow Autistic people so I'm adding the neurodivergent and actually autistic tags to this post.

[veinflowers]

Xenogender Explanation (For people who still just don't get it)

Xenogenders are like color associations with genders.

Example to put into perspective: It is common that blue = boys/men for many. However, this does not mean that men/boys are literally blue or that the color blue is inherently masculine or male.

Or another example: I know someone who often says that her femininity or womanhood feels cat-like as in she experiences her femininity in a fluffy, soft, and aloof in a cat way. She does not directly identify as a cat but her gender experience feels very cat-like.

Rather than a direct identity, xenogenders are adjectives to describe a gender experience that does not fit within the already made common labels of male, female, or non-binary. Xenogenders are under the genderqueer umbrella of gender. So when someone describes xenogenders as "everything can be a gender", they're not quite geting it. It's not that everything can be a gender, it's that anything can describe an individual's experience with gender.

I still stick by my comparison of synesthesia to xenogenders though. See that post here.

There is nothing wrong with identifying as concept, object, animal, etc. though. That experience is just not the same as xenogenders. That is alterhumanity.

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I’m thinking of adding my own Alterhuman discord server to my college’s student hub so I can find similar beings who will understand that part of me within my academic space, and also because I don’t see one already there. I’m going to have a resource channel where people interested about Alterhumanity can learn about it from the discord community and I want to first start the channel with a FAQs section or maybe, make a FAQs channel. But I don’t know where to start besides the basics of things like “What is alterhumanity?” “What are otherkins?” and “What are therians?” I think I need more questions than that.

What are some common questions people have asked you about your alterhumanity or alterhumanity in general? (If you’re alterhuman)

(If you’re not alterhuman) What are some questions you have or had about alterhumanity?

Please be respectful and kind!! Antis are obviously not welcome here.

If you’re not comfortable commenting, feel free to submit an anon ask instead! Please specify if it is for those post or you are wanting to know the answer, or both. Thanks!

[veinflowers]

Having survived so many life-threatening experiences, mostly involving deadly food allergies, it kind of feels like I’ve beaten death.

I really should not have all this confidence.

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We have 197 drafts.

[plurality-pet-peeves]

p3 is:

“are you median or multiple?”

“we’re mediple! basically we’re both median AND multiple”

“that isn’t what i’m asking???”

“we’re both?”

and then the person goes on a tirade about how we can’t be both and yada yada and it pisses me off!! and i’m the basal anxiety holder!!!!

— the gilded labyrinth // ⭐️

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[veinflowers]

From our experience, when someone says “that isn’t what I’m asking???”, they mean “That isn’t what I wanted you to say.” or they just don’t know how to think in greys.

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I don’t label my vents with “pro endo/willo” or similar tags because my vents might be triggering for either so if you see a vent post of mine but don’t see any tags relating to that, that’s why.

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Sometimes, I think that I’ll feel “more valid” as a traumagenic system if we were diagnosed with a dissociative disorder but then remember that when we first got medically diagnosed as Autistic, we got fakeclaimed a lot due to us masking and the people in our life having a set definition of what Autism is supposed to look like to them that we did not fit in. This fakeclaiming made me have imposter syndrome about my diagnosis, even though I got diagnosed by medical professionals who know much more than the people who fakeclaimed me.

So even being diagnosed probably wouldn’t help me feel “more valid”.

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What’s the difference between being transplural (NOT transdid - I know that difference already) and being willogenic?

I’ve seen it be used interchangeably but I’m also sure that there are at least a few willogenic systems who would probably not like to be associated with the transID community. And then I’ve also seen pro endos be okay with transplurals but not other transIDs.

This is a genuine question and I ask that fakeclaimers/sysmeds do not reply to this.

[veinflowers]

I kind of want to meet other Solar Opposites fictives out there but I feel like it’s not extremely popular enough for that, and also, our Jesse is a bit dormant and less separate from me now. Our Jesse isn’t completely canon and has described herself as being part Mabel Pines. Still, it’d be awesome to know that she’s not alone in forming from that particular source.

[veinflowers]

“Non-disordered ‘plurals’ should not use plural terms.”

The term “plurality” was made by non-disordered plurals to recognize non-disordered plurality separate from DID but ALL plurals (including DID systems) are welcome to use plural terms because when we say everyone is valid, we actually mean everyone is valid. No cherry picking.

[dxoy]

the term traumagenic, endogenic, protogenic and more was coined by Lunastus Collective - an endogenic system that diagnosed with DID too

They literally coin it for solidarity and understanding of the differences, not for the hatred and misunderstanding

Source

[peppercornsystem]

Just a reminder; Plurality from psychosis can happen and is valid. Please just tread carefully when it comes to validating magical thinking. It’s one thing to experience psychosis. It’s another thing to boost your symptoms and possibly wreck your mental health.

Ultimately, take it slow, stay safe, be gentle with yourself.

Stay safe out there!

[veinflowers]

Syscourse is for debate if you don't want responses from either side STAY OUT OF THE TAG! Blocking people for responses in a debate tag is immature and screams "I can't deal with anyone who doesn't agree with me!' Grow up.

I don't owe you an explanation for my own boundary. Just block me, dude.

I literally do not have any syscourse tag posts. What is anon on about?

I still stand by my point if you saw my full explanation before I edited it that syscourse is toxic and debate is not. Any online discourse is NOT (intellectual) debate (if that's what you're referring to). (Intellectual) debate does not involve insulting people and be hostile to defend your argument. I'm all for listening to opinions different than mine (unless you're like a pro-contact pedo/zoophile) but I will only argue with you in a setting like a debate hall or club where there are actual fucking rules. After all, to make a better argument, you must first, find a way to connect your values with your opponent's. You are allowed to get riled up but unlike a lot of syscoursers or discoursers, in debate halls or clubs where you are there to learn about people who have different opinions than you, no one is allowed to say extremely harmful things to their opponent. I'm not giving any examples because I don't want to trigger anyone.

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To those who celebrate, merry Christmas!!

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I just discovered SimplyPlural is on the AppStore which is more accessible for us... not like we probably ever will use it more now but still, cool.

Reminder: If you reblog this or any of our posts with discourse tag(s), you will be bonked/blocked.