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Bunch of potential Flower King Dark World Talk

People have been talking about potential stuff with the flowers encouraging Asgore's problems narratively/being clingy, and something that's stuck in my mind is Miss Mizzle / HolywaterCooler mentioning the Bluest Flower specifically; as a result I have unfortunately developed an unlikely but really funny opinion:

. . . I hope the Bluest Flower in contrast to the other flowers is a boss (possibly a secret one? unsure) who cares deeply about Asgore but wants Asgore to move on, instead of continuing pursuing the 'get family back together' stuff theoretically...?

I also think it would be a REALLY fun direct contrast/narrative foil to Tenna, who hates thinking of the divorce, who wants the family be together again, who accidentally reopens little wounds here and there by talking wistfully about the old days, to have one of the literal expressions of Asgore's refusal to let go in the form of one of the flowers from a wedding bouquet under glass turning against the idea. This also works wonderfully with the fact Toriel's name in Undertale is initially shown in Blue, which in turn is also the color of Integrity according to the Ball Game.

Probably would turn that flower to stone soon after the boss fight, but... I think it would be fun!

I think it also works narratively with the fact Asgore keeps trying to give Toriel bouquets that get dunked in the trash, also.

Additional thoughts/some general thoughts and opinions about character ties:

-Holywatercooler's lines are as follows:

"The Bluest Flower, A disciple of my speech

Shy to no camera, And a specimen of

Elegance and kindness.

Should you meet, Please give my regards."

The mentioning of a camera, imo is not Just a reference to the wedding photo; TV World sure has a good number of Camerathings, after all, does it not?

This combines with a second point of interest:

Shuttah has a lot of interesting dialogue, but I want to call attention to this:

"There once was the great wilderness here!

Yes... But, the world became the theater, and us, children of Tenna's contract.

Those that did not sign the paper, set off for the far land and were forgotten.

Now... only the legend old hermit still knows the way to the place."

Now, the far land and being forgotten is a pretty on-the-nose hint for Forgotten Island, especially with references to the hermit.

... What about the 'great wilderness', then?

I think... The 'great wilderness' was because there used to be more flowers and plants in the house. Asgore's mentioning that 'these flowers are still kicking' implies they used to be in Toriel's house, especially with the mentioning of the climate being bad for them.

Many other plants probably also used to be there, at one point or another. And the fact that it's SHUTTAH mentioning these, a camera! When we know from Miss Mizzle that the Bluest Flower is 'shy to no camera!'

My other most evil opinion is that 'Those that did not sign the paper set off for the far land and were forgotten' is not JUST about Forgotten Island but also about THE DIVORCE, considering how Chapter 1 events with the playing cards and toys is reflected in the lore of those items.

Those who left for the far land can then also mean 'items that went with Asgore to Flower King', and those who stayed in Toriel's house, and with Tenna and the rest, 'children of Tenna's contract'.

. . . Asgore has his own CRT nowadays, after all. :]

#invidiatech evil moments #even your bouquet is sick of your shit #it's over...#deltarune spoilers #utdr #deltarune #[shuttah voice] are tenna and flowers (various) still friends?#my other most evil opinion is if blue flower secret boss. death/scythe attribute #'isn't that jevil' jevil still remains chaos/chaos in files to my knowledge #long post #there's actually way more i could say on this.

Re: Carmilla, Episode 16, Conclusion, THOUGHTS

I really liked how quiet this episode was. No sound effects, no lush score. Just Laura and the Baron laying out the final details of things. As if with the absence of Carmilla there is no more story left to tell, even in epilogue.

Nathan Blades, you voice a fantastic surreal enigmatic wise old man. Your Vordenburg sounds like he belongs in a Guillermo del Toro film where the heroes have to speak with some wizened hermit of an expert on the occult and forage in his library. 11/10

But its power is not confined to its grasp; it leaves a numbness in the limb it seizes, which is slowly, if ever, recovered from.

I wonder if that applies in the emotional sense. Carmilla cradled Laura's heart all that time and the grasp is suddenly gone. Has been gone for a decade. And I can imagine Laura, still numb, still wanting, as she seals the envelope and strains to hear that light step at the drawing room door.

#it's over...#hhhh #re: carmilla #carmilla #laura