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Bruce: My cousin's a lesbian. Maybe you know her?
Renee: It doesn't work like that. We don't all know each other.
Bruce: She lives in the Diamond District. Her name's Kate. She has a black and red motorcycle.
Renee: *walks away so she doesn't have to tell him they've been dating since 2013*
Batwoman #3 by Greg Rucka and Dani. Variant covers by (1) Stjepan Šejić, (2) Yanick Paquette and (3) Cully Hamner. Main cover (4) by Dani. Out in May.
"In the aftermath of Batwoman’s brutal showdown with the Monks of the Stone, Jacob Kane fears his daughter may have crossed the point of no return. If there’s any chance of pulling Kate back from the brink, he’ll need the help of Renee Montoya, a.k.a. the Question—but neither of them may like the answer they find. The sparks will be flying in more ways than one when Greg Rucka and DaNi’s Next Level tale continues!"
Rating two comics ships (most popular, probably) for each BatFamily character because I'm bored and I want the chaos.
(no I don't. I like my life peaceful. But I also like saying my opinion. Don't kill me over them 😭🙏)
Bruce:
Batman (2016) #25 & Detective Comics #1071 Variant Cover
Bruce x Selina: 10/10. I'll be honest, there are some ships in DC that, imo, you shouldn't touch/mess with. Like I literally got a list and BatCat is on it. Sure it has its bad moments, but what ship doesn't? For the "drama" the writers feels like there's need but we don't need it💔 Aaaanyways, they're my babies. The love and support they give each other is just kqncjsiansj 😩🫶
Bruce x Talia: 6/10. Honestly, while it's not entirely my thing, Bruce and Talia aren't bad together... With good writers, that said. But there's way worse, so a 6 is okay for them.
Selina:
Batman #35 (2016) & Catwoman #33 (2018)
Sooo I don't know if these are exactly Selina's most popular ships aside BatCat, sorry if they aren't, didn't know what to pick :').
Selina x Talia: 7/10. Again, not my thing... But it's not as bad as other ships I've seen (Selina and Dick... Shudders). I don't see it happening tho... But I wouldn't mind seeing them interacting and like, talking about Bruce or how Damian's doing and stuff yk?
Selina x Pamela: 3/10. Eeeh, I can see why it exists, but no. Aka: I prefer Ivy and Harley, lol. And I don't see much the appeal, but I don't mind the ship.
Kate:
DC: Bombshells #45 & Batwoman #17
Kate x Renée: 9/10. My shaylas🫶 I miss them together, I really liked them. But, well, I guess Kate is Renée's friend, the best friend she has (see: The Question: All Along The Watchtower #6 (2025)... I guess it's better than nothing...😭
Kate x Maggie: 5/10. Okay, nothing against Maggie, I kinda like her... But Renée😩 I miss her...
Helena:
Nightwing and Huntress #3 (1998) & BoP #59
Helena x Dick: 9/10. One of my favorite Dick Grayson's ships, to be honest. I loved their chemistry, especially in the 90/00s. Nothing against the Grayson Helena but... Her in the 90s was perfection, fight me.
Helena x Dinah x Babs: 8/10. As I've said in a previous post, I see the Birds of Prey (Like Dinah and Babs) more as the type of close best friends who would kiss and jokingly touch each other, but not date. However... If this had to happen, throw Grayson in and I'm up for it, lol. I mean, come on! He and Babs are dating, he dated Helena and we can work on his relationship with Dinah I guess.
I know her relationship with Question is probably more famous...? But these are comics ships. And her most famous ships were either with Dinah or Babs so I just picked the three together lol. Them three together is quite popular too anyways.
Barbara:
Birds of Prey #15 (1998) & Birds of Prey #21 (1998)
Barbara x Ted: 7/10. Cause they were cute, but I don't know... Ted belongs to Booster— AHEM WHO SAID THAT???!!!! Anyway, as an alternative ship was fine, and had its moment, but not my favorite.
Barbara x Dinah: 8/10. High rate more because of their friendship than the ship itself, honestly... Again, I see them more as really close besties, but if they were to become something I wouldn't go feral lol. Plus... DinahOllie is one of those untouchable ships for me.
Dick:
Dick and Babs: 11/10. They're the ship for me. Been loving their characters first, then found the ship and I remember smiling so brightly. Happy baby Juju😞🙏 Anyways, I love them, seriously. Soulmates and endgame if you ask me.
Dick and Kory: 7/10. Yup. Dick and Kory ain't bad together, they're just not my ship. I found them cute in NTT or old Titans stuff, but they'll never be on DickBabs level for me. But again, I don't dislike them together. One day, they might make it back into Nightwing comics, and I'll still support my man and his happiness no matter what... sure I'll cry a little but yk😭.
Cassandra:
Batgirl #41 (2000) & Detective Comics #943 (2016)
Cassandra x Kon: 7.5/10. Seriously they weren't bad, maybe they could work a little better now, but I'll pass. Kon's got another Cassandra. Still, they were funny together :).
Cassandra x Harper: 7/10. Like for Kon, they're alright. I dunno, I'm very picky with Cassandra's ships, like our girl deserves happiness I know, but I haven't met many ships of her that I actually like much.
Jason:
Red Hood and the Outlaws #25 & Gotham War: Red Hood #2
Jason x Artemis: 9.5/10. YES. Finally a Red Hood ship that doesn't involve characters that are either his family or his family's exes. They had the chemistry, I loved them. Like for Cass, I got sort of an hard time in pairing Jason with someone, but Artemis? I'm absolutely fine with it.
Jason x Rose: 1/10. Meh... I'm sorry, I don't really see it? Did I just not get much into the ship and I'm missing the built up or...? Did I just miss it cause😭 Also, I got mixed feelings on this. She had a story with Dick, not romantically! But kinda weird. And with Tim... Well she sort of harassed him not once but two times, so, yeah... Like imagine the Christmas dinner and events like those.
Stephanie:
Batgirls #1 (2022) Variant Cover & Task Force Z #12
Stephanie x Cassandra: 7/10. Even for this, giving it a 7 because of their friendship. Like for Babs and Dinah, they're the type of best friends who would kiss and jokingly touch, but just that, for me. Again, when it comes to Cass, I'm picky, mostly because I feel like she needs a friend before a lover, and Steph is that exact friend. The best friend she can rely on in every situation. I might be mistaking, haven't read Batgirl (2000) recently, but wasn't Stephanie one of her first friends, if not the first? Sure, we can bring up Babs, but Barbara is a mother figure, Stephanie is a friend. The kind of best friend she'd lie to her parents (Babs and Bruce) to, to help her with anything or sneak out with her even if she's not allowed. That's why I can't see them as more than best friends, honestly not even sisters, even if I feel like Steph would call her "sis" sometimes.
Stephanie x Jason: 1/10. Just... No. Let them be close, but not like that... Let's not turn Stephanie in Barbara and pass her around, please😭🙏 Stephanie is more like the girl who's dating a family member (Tim), got close to his sister (Cass), is disapproved by the father (Bruce) but she'll stick around and build a friendship with everyone.
Tim:
Young Justice #5 (2019) & DC Pride: Tim Drake Special #1
Tim x Stephanie: 10/10. They were everything. Everything. They had the chemistry, the built up, the good and bad moments they overcame... And then? Poof. Into the nothing...? Break-up off panel? Seriously? Give me one good reason at least.
Tim x Bernard: 0/10. Let me explain hold on. It'd be an higher rate if Bernard was his old self. Like genuinely who's this guy? That ain't the Bernard I know. And he and Tim just... met again and got together I guess. Again if that was the old Bernard and the couple were to be momentarily, I'd be fine with it... but I don't know this man, be for real. And to make the couple they had to make Tim and Stephanie break up off panel and act ooc? Why would Tim ghost Steph? Why did Steph just... Accept everything like that. I love TimSteph but my girl has the rights to hit Tim with a brick again😭 She wouldn't just... Be happy for them and be a ray of sunshine, you can't tell me she wouldn't be sadder, come on... And again, that ain't Bernard? That's a new character. Would have made more sense creating a brand new guy to be honest...
I'm glad Tim and Steph are still friends, but honestly? I personally feel like the bestie/sibling vibes people get from them in comics now (not talking about the past) comes off an ooc behavior of Stephanie accepting them immediately because, if she doesn't, it's homophobic. But this is me, you can disagree and it's no problem.
Duke:
Batman & the Signal #1 & Batman and the Outsiders #3
Duke x Izzy: 8/10. I like them, they're nice together :). I don't really have much to say about them tho :')... They really are quite nice though.
Duke x Cassandra: 0/10. I believe there's no need for me to explain why.
Damian:
Batman and Robin #6 & Superman & Robin Special #1 Cover
Damian x Flatline: 7/10. See, this is what I'm talking about. A brand new character as a love interest. Not re-used ones or exes of family (ex: Raven;). They're cute, need to see more of them together.
Damian x Jon: 7/10. Same rate. Because I see them more as best friends too and not more, however... if Jon weren't...now older, sob, and they had grown up together, I wouldn't mind them. They're an all right ship for me.
So these were my opinions on those ships :) if you got any questions about these or other ships, or want to disagree on something, feel free to politely say or ask. I'll gladly answer ^^.
Which canon couple (involving a Bat) has/had the healthiest relationship?
Bruce/Talia
Bruce/Selina
Bruce/Silver St. Cloud
Kate/Renee
Dick/Koriand’r
Dick/Barbara
Jason/Rena
Tim/Steph
Tim/Bernard
Damian/Flatline
Other
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The rise and fall of Kate Kane / Renee Montoya (Batwoman / Question) relationship
After witnessing the death of her mother and sister, Kate dedicated her life to the military, however she was forced to leave the service under "don't ask, don't tell" homophobic policy. This had a huge impact on her life, leaving her was aimless, lost – that's when she found Renee.
Kate Kane Ships
Kanee (Kate Kane x Renee Montoya)
ZeeKate (Zatanna Zatara x Kate Kane)
Kate Kane x Renee Montoya x Maggie Sawyer
SuperBatCorp (Supergirl x Batwoman x Lena Luthor)
Helena Bertinelli Ships
I think adding Renee Montoya really helped me solidify my Kate Kane design, though I had a pretty solid idea about Batwoman having that militarized aesthetic with a less lethal fire arm
