#katherine summers

[ursaspecter]

@wolvierinez made a post that was absolutely bespoke and transcendant

scottie's mom has got it goin' on-

[jokey05]

HC that Scott was such a quiet toddler you could leave him with legos and he would play alone for hours with no problems but Alex kept eating them and it was driving Katherine crazy.

[movalise]

[wolvierinez]

trying to get a feel on Katherine for my What If Katherine Survived xmen au because i miss her and mourn the fact shes barely a character

[thatawkwardmoth]

Emma and Scott both having shitty parents (not Katherine Summers, I'm never talking shit about her) is just another reason they make a good couple.

Let me explain:

Scott is raised military before he's even a soldier for Xavier. It's little things that show it but, as someone who's dad was raised by a military man, sometimes it's hard for parents to leave the army for Base only. Scott, in the meager amount of scenes we get of his childhood, has almost the same mindest of Dean Winchester in a way. His father gives an order, he might protest but eventually, he always complies. Number one example being the plane crash and the one parachute thing. But also that he spends so much time worrying over Alex. Even after being forced to forget about him, he still remembers parts of him. And yes, it is because that's his little brother and he loves him so much. But it could also be because the phrases: 'look out for your brother', 'Keep your brother safe', 'Watch out for Alex', have been said to him since the day he met Alex in the hospital, newborn and fragile enough that Scott, even at two years old, knew not to be rough.

And it doesn't change, even on the Krakoa arc, he is angry over Alex being placed on Sinister's team. (And sinister referring to the brothers as 'his boys' gives me the ick. They Not Like Us vibes from his character in general when it comes to the Summers brothers…) He can't take care of Alex, make sure he's safe and sound, if he's on the same team as the guy who experimented on a preteen Scott for funsies and genetic testing.

Now, Katherine Summers, we don't have a lot of comics with her. But she's shown as the perfect mother figure, raising two rowdy boys mostly on her own with how busy Christopher is. And Scott and Alex remember her fondly. So no fault to her. But Christopher fucking Summers, every fault to him.

I'm not demonizing him, I need that known. I'm not saying that he's the next John Winchester (because at least he came back to check on his kids, unlike Corsair), I'm just saying that he raised Scott to be the perfect solider for Xavier and the perfect experiment for Sinister. Because he followed orders and he didn't argue back to adults (eventually he did, but you get the point).

Scott has so much unpacked trauma from his childhood and that small series where deplaced Scott is with Corsair doesn't really cover any of it. Neither do modern comics.

Emma, on the other hand, was raised in high society. Has always known the rich life and the challenges and difficulties that come with it. Mainly, her father's goals for her and her mother's long broken soul.

She grew up trying to be the perfect daughter despite being the black sheep. She couldn't meet his goals and faced his wrath for having dreams about being a teacher. His rage followed her into training the Hellions and it led to their deaths.

Now, it's not just her father's temper that is the reason she's got shitty parents. He's a cheater, a manipulator and discards his children like broken toys when they don't follow his strict guidelines of life, ex. Chrisitan being a drug addict, the older sister doing modeling, his younger being more goth and alternative for 'attention' as Emma puts it. Leaving him to pick Emma to continue his company because she's like him, a fact he learns after she blackmails and exposes his affair to his wife. He's willing to let Emma be given a pass on things purely because of his money and only stops her from hooking up with her teacher because it's not who he wants her with. No mind to the fact that he's an adult and she was a child. I hate the teacher thing. Can we tell?

He's a shit father but Hazel Frost is not exempt from my shit talking. She is not Katherine Summers. She's absent most of the time. Being the perfect socialite wife. She doesn't have a life outside of her husband's money and the parties she throws (more garden parties, not Tony Stark rager parties). She cares about her children, yes. But the tiniest amount. She can't bring herself to be there for them when they're going through difficult times. She's been broken by the expectations on her, to be the traditional wife, that she can't be bothered when the affair is revealed to her. It's heartbreaking and it makes me sad but it doesn't excuse the way she ignored her son's drug habit or her daughter's crisis with new powers and bullies at school.

Now Jean Grey has shitty parents but only after she is revealed to be a mutant to them. They sent her to Xavier's school to help her through the grief of her friend's accident and the issues she'd been having recently, not because anyone told them about her mutation. Now them rejecting her did hurt and they played a giant part in her turning into Dark Phoniex. But that happened when she was an adult. For her formative years as a child, they were present and lovely. Even as a teenager, it's shown that she calls them and writes letters and visits them on holidays. So, as much as I am a Jott and Scemma shipper alike, she can't relate to Scott's trauma and parent issues until she herself is burned and abandoned by her own. Emma, on the hand, can. She's had a shitty dad and Scott's had two and one creep that is obessed with him. She's had to mature faster because of her father not paying her ransom and making her rescue herself and decide to run away. Scott can relate to her running away, seeing as it is his favorite thing to do. Ex, the orphanage, Xavier's, Alaska, so on and so on.

Emma has even lost loves before! She was geuinely in love with the guy waiter from the comic series about her life. Was distraught when he died. She's been scorned by lovers before as well. Her teacher that she had a crush on and sabatoged a few friendships in college for (stupid plotline. stupid. stupid.) eventually reveals that he hates mutants and sees them as freaks, making Emma leave him and never look back (finally, my girl was free).

Jean hasn't. She's never lost Scott except when he cheated. She's never had to grieve him or bury him as many times as he has had to for her. Even Madelyne, who scorned Scott for reasons purely blamed on the absolute worst comic book misunderstanding and miscommunication ever, has never related to Scott on those levels. Emma has buried him and been scorned by him and still loves him, is the one he trusts with his resurrections in the Arbor Magna. It really speaks volumes.

And I'm not pitting the two ships against each other. I'm not. I'm pointing out the differences in the way they can relate to each others' pasts.

[rei-ismyname]

Cyclops and Corsair go camping

Cyclops is taking some time for himself to deal with being possessed and the sacrifice of Colossus. As usual he's got a lot of doubts and angst, though he does have a cool motorbike. He invited his deadbeat dad along but he's not sure if he's coming. He's not sure if he wants him to.

Corsair arrives late and makes as little effort as possible to build any kind of relationship with his son. I feel like he sees him as a friend and not as the kid he didn't come back for. He makes a token effort to propose a hug but gives up on that pretty easily. He's hungry!

After Scott catches the fish while Corsair sits back and tells crappy space jokes and stories the old man tries to light a fire. He asks Scott to use his heat vision but it doesn't work like that. He doesn't really know Scott and his jocularity isn't going down very well. Scott likes purposefully creating good memories and Corsair is not able to provide that.

This is the only time I'll say that Corsair is right - when he calls himself the biggest moron in the universe. Scott is not really interested in compromising further to make Corsair feel better. He quite bluntly points out that he doesn't know much about Scott and he's obviously pissed that the dude isn't trying.

After a bit of awkwardness, the old man just decides fuck it, this is too hard. 'Why?' Scott calls after him, he wants an explanation for why he never came back.

His initial excuse is ... pissweak - that he is a Starjammer and people rely on him. Not only is that a very rosy picture of reality, it doesn't answer the obvious question. Scott explodes at him and while his alien abduction sucks he's really not trying to understand what Scott's been through. He asks a rhetorical question that's not at all obvious. Yeah, motherfucker, your abandoned son does think that. Why wouldn't he?

Corsair gets closer to being honest by sharing how he felt when Katherine Summers was murdered. He's still being evasive though, so Scott grabs him by the collar and shouts that he had plenty of opportunities to check in. He accuses him of not caring which is pretty fair IMO. Corsair backhands him to the ground.

Scott doesn't even bother getting violent, he just insinuates that it's pathetic. He spells out how his trauma affects him and his relationships, then circles back to demanding an explanation. Corsair could have come back but didn't. Dude starts crying and admits he was ashamed.

His reasons and explanation are pretty poor. They're all about him and his pride, though he does apologise. As he admits, it's fifteen years too late but Scott isn't going to get much more out of him.

My reading of this is that Scott accepts his dad sucks and that he's not capable of the kind of relationship he craves. He decides he can live with those lowered expectations and falls asleep in his lap. Corsair is not a positive model for anything really, and while it irks me that Scott has to do the emotional labour to build any kind of connection, dude craves family. Corsair sucks but he still loves him. I would and have made a different choice in a similar situation but Scott's is valid. He meets him on his level as a buddy and builds his own family.

The circumstances of their separation and Katherine's death are tragic, but Corsair abdicated any responsibility for his children. Dude definitely sucks and that doesn't change at any point but Scott is usually happy to see him every now and then.

[cocoabubbelle-newblog]

Random Scogue/Headcanon Trivia: Scoguelings! Pt. 3!

Is obliviousness to romance an inherently male Summers’s trait?

Christopher Summers: told his sons when they were little that he worked hard to become a dashing, calm and collected pilot of the U.S. Air Force with the rank of Captain so he could successfully impress the daughter of his father’s business partner who co-owned the cargo airline company the former ran and ask for her hand in marriage, otherwise she never knew he existed. Katherine Anne later informed her sons that she had already been interested in him from the moment he tripped over his feet and fell flat on his face when their dads first introduced them to each other.

Scott Summers: had genuinely no idea Rogue harbored romantic feelings for him since their high school years. It was long after he and Jean ended their relationship to figure out what they both wanted, and during a mission he and Rogue were participating in, he had realized he was in love with the latter. After trying to rationalize with himself that he only thought he was in love with Rogue because of the less than ideal break up with Jean, and him and Rogue having to pretend to be a couple for their cover wasn’t helping, Scott came to the conclusion that his feelings for Rogue were sincere (regardless of when they started blossoming), via an accidental love confession that escaped while he was trying to comfort her after an especially harrowing moment in their mission. But there was absolutely no way he could even dream she’d ever feel the same way, since 1) she was incredibly cool in his eyes, so he was obviously not her type; 2) she had only recently broken things off with Remy as they both hit a snag in their relationship right when he was going to propose, and Scott didn’t feel it was right trying to insert himself in a situation to add to Rogue’s discomfort as she took time to figure things out; 3) She had been in his hs drama/theater class and in a play, so obviously she is good at acting like she’s in love with him while they pretend to be a couple for their mission….right?

Alex Summers: had thought Scott was dating Madelyne Pryor the whole time Scott and Rogue were trying to figure out/were actually in a relationship. Had spent several years trying and failing to convey his crush and love to Maddie…only by the time he gathered the courage to successfully do so…:

Alex: I…I’M IN LOVE WITH YOU!😣❤️

Maddie: I love you too 😁

Alex: ?! You do?!😳

Maddie: Of course! Hence us dating these past few years.😄

Alex:…😶

Maddie:…😀

Alex:…😦

Maddie:…you WERE going to finally propose after that confession…right?🤨

………

Alex:…we were DATING?!🤯

Maddie: We WEREN’T?!🤯

Greta* Wagner, Nightcrawler/Kurt’s daughter through his deceased wife, Amanda Sefton, certainly seems to think so when she tries to convince Kirby Paquin-Summers (Scogue’s eldest child and only son) of the ✨vibes✨ between her long widowed father and close family friend Katherine “Kitty” Pryde.

Greta: They make a cute couple, huh? *nods towards Kurtty, who are OBVIOUSLY blushing and making eyes at each other while they talk/flirt*

Kirby: *sees Kurtty chatting* They certainly are standing next to each other.

Greta:…

Kirby:…

Greta:…you are SUCH a Summers Man 🙄

Kirby: 🤨❓

*Greta is short for Margarete, who I am headcanoning for my AU is the namesake of Kurt’s adoptive mother (since in the comics, his adoptive mother’s name was Margali Szardos)

Kurt’s father is named Kristopher (in the comics, Kurt’s surname came from Baron Christian Wagner), and is no way in any shape or form connected to any mean anti-mutant barons sharing the same last name.

[batcavescolony]

I don't know much about the Summers family tree but what I do know is it's complicated af.