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Finally a first language laddering post! In the near future I hope to start posting updates to my personal studying, maybe accompanied by study materials for others to use if I have the time! But first, I wanted to post an introduction.

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so i’m really laddering my italian on top of my german now. think this might be the best way for me to learn new vocabulary in italian, as well as remembering the right articles in german. i’ll have to take it slow haha, but i’m thinking i could fill my book with new words every couple days or so. i just have to keep it up. helps having a really cute notebook to write it in lol.

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Resources for Learning Korean Through Chinese

I’m not currently learning Korean, but in the future I want to learn it through Mandarin Chinese. This is called laddering (learning a new language through another language you speak at an advanced level). Even thought Korean and Chinese are not related languages, I think the amount of Sino-Korean vocabulary would make laddering these two languages really interesting! This is a (non-exhaustive) list of some resources I’ve found:

Lingodeer I’m sure many of you have heard of this app before. Obviously you can learn Korean through English, but there is also an option to learn in through Chinese (traditional).

Eggbun Korean This is another app. I’m not sure if all the course content is available in Chinese, but at least some is!

How to Study Korean I think everyone knows this site. Unfortunately, it looks like only Unit 1 is available in Chinese. It’s still a good start--hopefully more lessons will be translated soon.

Darakwon Practical Korean This series consists of 6 books total. However, I believe the last book has not been published yet. As the title suggests, these textbooks focus on practical conversational Korean.

Darakwon Master Korean This series has 6 levels, but levels 1-4 are split into 2 books each. Currently, book 6 is not out yet. From what I can tell, the difference between Master Korean and Practical Korean is that Master Korean more closely follows the TOPIK exam and has less emphasis on conversational language.

Darakwon Korean Grammar in Use This is a very well-known textbook series. There are 3 books total focusing entirely on grammar. Each level should roughly correspond to 2 levels of a standard textbook (ie. the beginner book should cover grammar from levels 1-2 of a textbook like Master Korean). Thus, you will need other resources to learn vocabulary.

Darakown 2000 Essential Korean Words So far this series has 2 levels, beginner and intermediate. Unlike the books above, there is not a dedicated Chinese translation of these books. Instead, the book has side-by-side translations in English, Japanese, and Chinese.

Ewha Korean The Ewha books are also split into 6 levels. Levels 1-3 are split up into 2 books each. There are separate workbooks available. I’ve seen this series recommended for self-study because of the separate study guide booklets you can buy.

Ganada Korean for Foreigners Ganada is a Korean language school that also publishes its own textbooks. I am not very familiar with this series, but I have heard good things from people who use it.

Yonsei Korean Yonsei has sooo many textbook series. The classic Yonsei series is available in Chinese. I believe the newer edition textbooks are, too. Not all of the Chinese versions are listed on Yonsei Press’ website, but I believe you can get them on TwoChois. Or you could try searching 延世韩国语, which is the name of the series in Chinese.

Sogang Korean This well-known series is also translated into Chinese. I’ve linked the twoChois listings above because I couldn’t find an official university press page.

**Note that for many of the textbooks listed above, the advanced books actually written in Korean without Chinese translations.

There are also some Korean textbooks available only in Chinese. I would imagine these books are much harder to find outside of China, but I’ll list them below:

标准韩国语 (Biaozhun Hanguoyu) - Peking University

新标准韩国语 (Xin Biaozhun Hanguoyu) - Kyung Hee University

首尔大学韩国语 (Shou’er Daxue Hanguoyu) - Seoul National University I know SNU has a popular Korean textbook series in English, but to my knowledge, this series is separate, not a translation of the English series.

Hi Vincent! Since you're studying Japanese & Korean, I was wondering if there are any major differences in the way you approach studying each language? Especially since you are laddering Japanese and Korean.

Any helpful hints you've picked up on the way would be great too! ありがとう！

Oohhhh... This is a good question...

I think in terms of grammar I approach them similarly, by memorizing grammar by its function rather than by how it's translated, but when I review grammar I try to review my Korean by comparing to equivalent Japanese grammar. They're a lot easier to compare than either one with English, so it's easier since the word order is often the same and stuff.

But with Korean I think I use a lot more learning apps? Although that's mostly because the Korean resources around me aren't as plentiful as Japanese ones, so I can't get my hands on as much native reading material and stuff to practice. (And I'm not huge on k-dramas, haha)

Oh, another thing with my experience with Korean is that my learning community for it is much smaller- I couldn't really click with a lot of my classmates in Korean the same way I could with my classmates in Japanese (and there was one person in my Korean class who was kind of... A creep so I sort of avoided socializing in there in general), so a lot of my Korean learning is more independent. I won't lie that specific person being so like, uncomfortable to be around kinda killed my motivation to study Korean for a little while, so I really had to improve my internal motivations for studying to make sure I didn't give up.

In terms of tips and tricks I have, one thing I've made a habit of doing is writing down the equivalent Japanese grammar point next to each Korean grammar point in my textbooks! I'll write down conjugations with the same meanings, particles with the same meanings, and sometimes also phrases or vocab terms in Japanese next to the Korean headings and try to memorize based on that. It's usually pretty easy to do, honestly, since the English language textbooks I use for both languages describe things very similarly!

Also, I try to cut out English as much as possible when I learn new words in Korean! Like, I have the Learn Korean With BTS book, and in that the new vocab is only written in Korean, and then if I can't guess the word's meaning from the illustration they put with it, I'll listen to the audio translation in Japanese. I only use English if I'm totally lost because I don't know the word in either language and the illustration is confusing.

Hmm... Another tip I think is important is to not beat yourself up if you aren't "fully laddering" or something like that. If you sometimes have to go back to your native language to double check something, that's fine! It doesn't cancel out all the laddering if you have to go back sometimes to make sure you're actually understanding.

You can also usually find what textbooks Japanese universities use for their Korean language classes! I know Waseda puts all of their textbooks up on their class search and that's publicly available to look at, so you can go find whatever level of Korean textbook written in Japanese with Japanese explanations if you're advanced enough in Japanese!

I feel like laddering is pretty similar to immersion study in the sense that they can both feel pretty difficult and high-intensity even when you're just doing something basic. Completely getting rid of your native language makes things a lot more stressful, I think, so it can be harder. Even if you know that for you personally laddering will be a better way to learn it or more efficient or whatever, it can still feel kinda overwhelming to suddenly be trying to avoid your native language when you study, and I think it's important to remember that! Because sometimes it'll feel discouraging to be overwhelmed by "super basic stuff", but the way you're studying is more intense than studying using native language textbooks! So feeling overwhelmed by stuff you'd find "easy" in your native language is fine! Because it isn't your native language!

I dunno, I don't have many life hacks for it yet... But I hope this blurb helps somehow anyway!

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Language laddering: learning a language through another language.

Ex: My native language is English. I speak advanced French. I’m starting to learn Chinese.

Use LangB (French) to learn LangC (Chinese).

I can put my language learning apps or buy my textbooks or speak with language teachers, using French to learn Chinese!

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Spent most of the day doing my first 300 words

And through a ridiculous amount of trail and error, I memorized the Korean keyboard (somewhat). Now I need to match them to their Japanese equivalent and cut English out completely

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