#loki negative

[bridoesotherjunk]

loki even NEEDING to speak latin kind of just proves that the writer didn't do any fucking research about the character at all :/

also him saying Odin raised him is LAUGHABLE

Odin couldn't raise a butterfly in a flower garden

[rottentiger-art]

Ugh, I'm so mad bc I really wanted to enjoy sylki, I really thought it'd be fun. But,,, not canon. I'm happy for the fans, I'm glad y'all can enjoy it. But now whenever I see the ship I think of how it's another little detail Marvel used to take away the queerness in both. Details like "being born the goddess of mischief" and "a female variant? Sounds horrible" just further confirm Sylvie isn't just another Loki. She's a female version, bc all other Lokis are men. They may be shapeshifters, but these details were there to assure cishet viewers that they're not genderqueer. They didn't make Loki canonically genderfluid because the wrote it down on a piece of paper on the credits, that's easy to miss. But they did make sure to add all those dialogue so it'd be easier to say "not on the mcu, look at these scenes, he's cisgender"

Same with his bisexuality, "a bit of both" was a good start, until it stopped there. It's easy to argue against if that all they said and shown (which really, they didn't show anything) and giving him a trope that's notoriously applied to straight character (male falling for his female version) makes it easier. My brother in law and other cishet ppl I know watched this show and still believe Loki is cishet. And that was so on purpose from Marvel.

Really, I don't know what I expected from them, I don't know why I honestly thought Marvel was opening doors to queer visibility, when all it did was,,, nothing.

[lostglassguitars]

Hey everyone.

Bet you didn’t follow me to hear me talk about Loki, but here we are. It’s time to hear how I feel. Spoilers beneath the cut, as always.

First off; I loved Kang. I sincerely, purely loved him. I was pleased seeing him, I liked how he was doing his own thing.

Secondly; INCREDIBLE acting. Purely phenomenal shit. The eyes that Tom Hiddleston and Sophia Di Martino were able to do that purely just conveyed every heartbreaking emotion underneath was breathtaking. You could see their inner turmoil through every piece of the episode and I loved it. Heartbreak? Don’t know ‘em.

Owen Wilson and Gugu Mbatha-Raw were incredible as well. Mobius’ confrontation with Ravonna was tense and filled with his compassion and hope for better and Ravonna’s stubborness to get what she wanted in the end, and her final words before she walked through the gateway sent little shivers down my spine.

All in all; the acting was phenomenal. Kang was such a delight to watch; his disregard and unconcern punctured by moments of desperation and brief, sizzling anger was honestly a show to watch, along with his casual attitude. I loved him. I loved the other actors. They’re all amazing.

Okay. Now we get deeper.

Overall, the finale was not... good. At least, in my opinion.

I feel a great way to look at this would be to compare this to Wandavision, as the two will probably be involved in similar issues in the future of the MCU.

Wandavision had a conclusion. The story had a way to end that arc and show, while leaving bits and pieces open to spiral into a new thing, keeping us on our toes while also feeling fulfilled, knowing that it had ended for the time, that there was more to come, that the characters had prevailed for the moment, even if evil was still lingering.

This finale did not. Not only was there basically no good action whatsoever, something that Marvel has done for a long, long time and is a rather central piece to the universe, but there was no close or finish. And while I acknowledge it will be in preparation for Season 2, which I will expand on later, there was endless talking, barely punctured by Loki and Sylvie fighting for less than I had expected.

Kang talked. And talked. There was too much waiting, and while I understand the importance of tension, there was too little. Silence filled the void where there should’ve been something more.

Now, onto things that are slightly more positive/complimenting

Mobius and B-15 were doing something. I have basically no criticism about their parts they played, it was good to see them working together to free the workers of the TVA.

The fight/talk between Loki and Sylvie was very good. I liked it. The way Loki was trying to get her to actually just wait a minute and talk with him is something I unfortunately relate to.

And the kiss... several episodes ago I would’ve been a lot more upset. I understand it was a way for Sylvie to get him away from her with Kang’s device, but either way, I accepted last episode that I would have no control over this, that it’s more about self-acceptance and love more than anything, and that, in the end, this is all just fiction, and nothing matters. No, I’m not depressed, why would you ask.

The ending made me really damn upset, though. It hurts a lot. Loki doesn’t get a break. If you remember, this takes place DIRECTLY after Avengers. Only a few days ago, probably, Loki got away with the Tesseract after losing to the Avenger, found out he wasn’t meant to exist, and shoved into this situation with barely any other explanation.

And it hurts after knowing he made two friends, who he liked and trusted; Sylvie, who he cares about so deeply, and Mobius, his friend, who chose to trust his word and was going to take the TVA down for him, and Sylvie betrayed him by pushing him away, and now Mobius doesn’t even remember him. The angst is oncoming forever. I feel horrible for him

And then we have the second season.

Which at this point, I await, but I won’t hold my breath for. While interested to see the direction they’ll take the show in, I have to say I’ve drawn back a little from the idea. Excited for it? Yes. Awaiting it? Not... necessarily.

“Did you actually like the finale, though?” one might ask. Well, meh. Very in the middle. It felt rushed, and didn’t leave me satisfied.

Though I will revert to what I said before; this is fiction. In the end, I have no control over a multi-million dollar corporation who makes stories up for money, and I need to accept that.

For now, I linger in the depths with my fellow writers, fixing this with fanfiction.

Mad respect to the actors, though, I really appreciate them more than they could ever know for doing this so well.

And that’s a wrap, folks. I will now go see what others are thinking.

[bridoesotherjunk]

diversity win! this alternate dimension version of this character is female, therefore confirming that the character is genderfluid!

uwu

uwu

fuck you

disney go fucking die challenge

this show sucks asscheeks

[corvidgae]

Not to keep harping on the Loki show but when Kid Loki showed up and Loki asked what his nexus event was, I expected him to say like "I was good"/"I was innocent"/etc but no?? No, sorry, he what?? He killed Thor?? Kid Loki? Kid Loki killed Thor? Kid Loki from Journey Into Mystery, the book you named this episode after? I am all for adaptational changes when they're appropriate, but that is literally the exact opposite of the point of Kid Loki

[dreamoning]

I finally watched LOKI and Hollywood did its "Hollywood Magic" and somehow took Loki, the queerest character in the MCU, double them and still gave them the straightest romantic plot line they could give. How? They literally hooked up with themselves, how is it so white and heterosexual?

Everything that was there was the same tropes and images he have seen a thousand times before, I am exhausted.

Also the dialogue, the story beats and just the general writing was so incredible cheesy. I would expect something like that with a plot like this if this was a movie because the lack of time... But this is a series! It's supposed to last longer so you don't have to cram stuff! But everyone was immediately incredible important for everyone? Y'all just met! And the actions and motivations of some of this characters were just plain confusing (I'm talking to you Ravonna and B-15, though I guess you can rationalize them but it's still left me with a frown).

Also, the fact that Loki was the most similar two Post-Ragnarok Loki without having to go through any of the journey. A lot of the lessons he didn't learn yet, but he was somewhat acting as if he had? Idk, man, everything was too quick, too weird.

And idk, I'm just disappointed because Loki is one of my favorite characters from the franchise and I've been waiting for any piece of media to dissect his character in a deeper way in the MCU since 2013. And in some ways, this show kinda did it but the way it was presented just wasn't for me and that's just SO frustrating.

The ending was good at leaving things set for a second season, which is what an ending should do so good job for that, I guess.

I did love the actors, they did what they could and honestly? Pure badasses. Specially Sophia Di Martino, she could take my breath away, those actions scenes? Fucking amazing. Honestly, they should have just made a cat and mouse show between Sylvie and Mobius of the years she was trying to take down the TVA, that would've been cool.

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The thing is,,, do I want him there? If he's gonna be a nearly irrelevant character like he was this season, I don't want it, I'd rather see Sylvie as the protagonist of it

[corvidgae]

Does marvel honestly expect me to want to watch more of this