#luzurus

[i-heart-hxh]

October 11th 2nd Togashi tweet!!

Luzurus says, "No. 420, dialogue insertion completed!"

Togashi says, "The specifications for 10 chapters are complete. I will continue working on the manuscript." 🐶

[moretheta]

they're my roman empire tbh. my hbo succession

[e-102]

I'm pretty sure Halkenburg has swapped out his people for many other princes guards, it seems like he used one moment killing Benjamins soldier to swap with one of Luzurus's men in chapter 386.

We know he builds up aura to create a shield and an arrow, which makes a rumbling noise that can be heard throughout the first tier of the black whale. To do this he needs to be surrounded with his followers. But here before we were introduced to the limits of his ability he builds up aura while Sumidori (the swapped in follower in Shikaku's body) approaches Luzurus's room. Why though? Sumidori approaches alone and kills himself. No one else is in the long hallway beside him.

At the same time Luzurus's bodyguard, Rice, falls backwards. INITIALLY! I assumed that the arrow had come from a front angle, but now I'm sure it came from the left, directly.

The first time we see Halkenburg use Grimal Les Dissonances he shoots pretty straightforwardly down a hall and through the soldier (Shikaku's) shield, but not through any walls. That plus the unknown parameters of his abilities at the time are why initially I didn't think he was doing anything here other than a test. But later when Halkenburg takes down Balsamilco he shoots him while hes in the middle of a hallway without Halkenburg on either side.

He knows exactly where Balsamilco is and aims through the wall. Now returning to Rice. At the time when Sumidori/Shikaku shoots himself I assume Sumidori's soul returns to his body very quickly, if not instantly. But when he wakes up Halkenburg is sitting directly in front of him in what looks to be his room, meaning at the time when there was a rumble to build up energy, Halkenburg and his followers never left his room.

How did Halkenburg shoot Rice without leaving his room? How did he know where to shoot? WELL! Halkenburg is the 9th prince, Luzurus is the 7th prince. Their rooms are right next to eachother, and every single room has the same layout.

so Halkenburg would know exactly where to shoot IF SOMEONE WAS ANSWERING THE PHONE.

Here's my attempt to visualize it, I left bodyguards that I could not find the names of labelled as 'Bg' and thank you to @fredfugues for your help finding names and bouncing my theories off you like m&ms off your forehead.

[8ballvampire]

Kakin Empire princes; Would they treat you right? (An analysis)

1, Benjamin

Not really surprisingly, yes! He would be a good partner. I think he would prefer someone who’s physically more active and thus be more influenced by that but I think he’d treat you right.

2, Camila

Not really…. She seems like someone who’d emotionally manipulate you just to see what she could get away with. Like Nicole from Class of ‘09

3, Zhang Lei

Probably idk 💀 He seems like he’d try to call you something suave like Darling or honey but fail and just seem like a little weirdo. Love him tho he’s silly!!!

4, Tserriednich

NO BITCH!!!! NO!!!! NOOOOO!!!!!!

5, Tubeppa

She’s the kind of partner to be scared (aggressively 😒) about being cheated on and thus treat her partner like they’re gonna cheat on her.

6, Tyson

UH YES????? Literally she would be an amazing partner I don’t even like??? Idk how to explain it but she’d act like a sugar baby minus the money and idk she just seems amazing I love her

7, Luzurus

I think he’d like… treat you okish and then eventually try to get you to smoke w him if you don’t already and if you deny it then he’ll be a little bit less nice. He just seems like the type 😒

8, Sale-Sale

NO!!!!!!!

9, Halkenburg

Yes. Do I even need to explain???? He’s the perfect man I will take this to my grave. He is amazing and intelligent and caring and amazing and great and I love him.

Ok analysis over go home /lhj

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do we think this a result of togashi navigating the red tape of shonen jump censorship or is he just being really funny

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assuming they're still alive... who do people think the beyond baby is

benjamin

camilla

zhang lei

tserriednich

tubeppa

tyson

luzurus

halkenburg

fugetsu

maryam

woble

other option: oito/ one of the queens?

Voting ended onNov 1, 2024

my personal thoughts below the cut:

gonna say no to benjamin, personally. partially because i trust longhi's judgement on the matter, but mostly because it just would not make sense to go to such lengths for a person who is already at the top. all beyond would need to do was stack up the military and let benjamin's connections do the rest of the work. also, not very interesting story wise (would be kind of insane if nasubi's firstborn wasn't even his own lmao). 1/10

camilla actually has a lot going for her as a candidate. i think the fact that she already has curse users on her side speaks for itself- i could see beyond being the one to put that into place. everything we know about camilla makes it seem like she's not someone who's much into planning or relying on others. on the other hand, she would undoubtably be tough to control- not good for making beyond's puppet king dreams come true. i also saw someone say she bears a similar mentality to (isaac) netero and beyond: namely, a selfish pursuit of her own interests, and the will to do absolutely anything to accomplish them. 7/10

zhang lei: i'm already 90% sure he's meant to be the son of onior longbao, so he's really not a top candidate. not to mention the idea of him being such a senior prince who doesn't know nen or is surrounded by other competant people who know nen doesn't make me feel like he's being supported by beyond behind the scenes. 1/10

i'm hearing a lot of tserriednich talk, mostly due to his resemblance (debatable) to young netero and his vast nen potential. personally i'm not convinced: i think beyond would have put more defensive countermeasures into protecting his child; including, say... a loyal retinue of guards!? like if tserriednich wasn't such a monster at nen he would be dead right now. all of his guards seem either indifferent, scared, enjoy the way he enables violence, or actively plotting to kill him. not a whole lot of loyalty. also.... it would be kind of boring story-wise IMO. like he's already got so much going on, it makes the world feel kinda small. 4/10

i don't really see tubeppa as them either, mostly for the same reasons as zhang lei ; a senior prince who was never taught nen / or is guarded by skilled nen users? unlikely. although it would be a moment of supreme dramatic irony for longhi to have to kill her own prince. 3/10

tyson: kind of a dark horse candidate tbh. we also know so little about her!! and also, by extension, her faction. maybe there's a hidden nen user amongst her guards? i kinda wanna see it, mostly to watch her get roped further into the story. since kurapika already has eyes on her via izunavi, i've kind of been waiting for the moment she becomes more relevant to the plot. not to mention the fact that she and beyond both have cult leader vibes (or in beyond's case, are directly inspired by a cult leader). 6/10

i'm 90% sure luzurus is brocco li's son (same deal as ike zhang lei). but we know as little about him as we do tyson (although he is slowly becoming more relevant) so possibly the brocco li thing is a red herring? it's weird that he doesn't have any guards who know nen, but we also haven't seen enough of his faction to be a 100% certain of that... idk, i'm still gonna say 2/10

salé-salé: dead. 0/10

halkenburg: unlikely IMO, especially after 403. i think having TWO secret parents would be kind of overkill. i also think that, considering how much insight we've gotten into his own thoughts, that he would never bring up beyond or the hunter association or anything. 2/10

kacho: dead- but i give it a 1/10 in case of the twin thing.

i could see a world in which kacho and fugetsu are revealed to not really be twins (they do look completely different) but i think it's odd for her to be so unprotected and defenseless right now. beyond seems like the time to have more of a plan in place to defend his kids. could be interesting story wise, but... i'm not buying it. 3/10

momoze: dead. 0/10

marayam: this one makes sense to me. although he's a bit on the younger side, which means that beyond was a little late on the jump when it came to siring a prince, his youth does make him the perfect target for a bit of fatherly manipulation. and it would make sense for him not to know nen, because he's not really old enough to learn (unless beyond awakened him as a baby?) although even in that case we haven't gotten explicit confirmation (i.e. him or another charcater outright stating it) that he doesn't know nen. and there's something to be said about him having a super powerful spirit guardian beast that keeps growing... and yet, we've yet to see it's parasitic nature reflected in marayam's behavior. kid must either have a MASSIVE pool of aura or his nen beast is just built different. that also might explain why sevanti was so desperate to protect him. 8.5/10

woble: to be honest, the best case i've heard for woble is that silent majority was sent to PROTECT her by beyond (or someone in the hunter association). yes, it disrupted kurapika's nen class, but it's possible the assassin just disasgreed with kurapika's methods. so far, all of the people it's taken out have either been woble's enemies, or had the potential to be enemies. it speaks to this idea of a third party trying to assist a prince. there;s also the idea that perhaps woble's nen beast hasn't shown up yet because it might be a giveaway to beyond's identity, and for the same reasons as maryam it would explain why she doesn'st know nen. also, we already have a confimed beyond spy on her team: bill ( love you bill, i don't think you want to hurt the baby- but maybe you're being manipulated without knowing it). on the other hand, the fact that oito seems completely unaware of beyond's plan speaks to her either lying (unlikely IMO, i just didn't get that vibe from the panel) or she.. didn't know. which is terrible in it's own way but also definitely something he would do. from a story perspective, it would turn longhi into an enemy, which would be sad, but good potential for drama. 8/10

other: i think everything going for woble goes just as well for oito. we don't know exacly how old she is, but considering the fact that beyond is probably older than he looks it's safe to say it isn't completely impossible. on the other hand, there is the fact that she's from meteor city.. and the middle child of five. perhaps she was planted there for her own safety, until it came time for her to meet the king? i also wouldn't put it beyond nasubi to have struck a deal with beyond. and i also think it's possible that she has no idea who her father is, and beyond kept her in the dark so as to better control her, but positioned people around her as protection. also, it would be cool. 8/10

[moretheta]

basho you will simply have to find someone else to smoke with

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MR. RECREATIONAL DRUGS!?!??!?!!?