The London special did so much for Marinette’s character and I think a lot of people are just ignoring it due to them being disapproving of her decision to lie to Adrien.
But like that’s the point.
I don’t think there’s a single moment in the special that frames Marinette’s decision as a good thing, instead it is presented as a choice that Marinette isn’t confident in but ultimately makes due to a fear of the consequences of the alternative option.
When asked, Bunnix, who knows the full outcome of this decision, doesn’t tell Marinette whether what she did was the right thing to do, only that the important part is how she “owns up” to her decision and how she acts from here.
While Nathalie and Kagami, the only other characters we see react to her plan, actively disagree with Marinette’s choice but follow it regardless because it is Ladybug’s choice to make.
Only she has the position to make this choice.
It is a burden she chooses to put upon herself because more than anything she wants to protect Adrien. Because Marinette, at 14 years old thrust into an incredibly complex emotional situation, does not know what the right decision is and can only hope she makes the right choice. So she follows her heart and sacrifices her mental state in an attempt to save Adrien’s in anyway she can.
And It breaks her… You can see it in her eyes and hear it in her voice. It’s haunting. She hates this decision more than anyone else possibly could, she can hardly bring herself to tell Adrien her lie and yet she still does. It adds so much depth and weight to her character and her actions. It makes her interesting.
Daddycop analysis: How Marinette viewed Adrinette when it came to FATE
I don't get around to make a better structured post, but the one thing that actually intrigues me in it's 'bothersomeness' about Marinette's drama in "Daddycop" (and one for which I'm very curious if it'll be the same in the French original cause it might just be a case of English Dub dialogue changes) is the way the episode just leaves it pretty much unresolved that Marinette, while sobbing about how her happiness is forever ruined, was out here blaming all of that on Adrien not changing his mind on having the date TOMORROW (so its not like she was denied anything, the point literally was that she gets both her date and her girls night fully instead of half-assing both at the same time. So Adrien rescheduled the date to the next day. This happened for HER benefit) while acting like SHE had nothing to do with the date not having happened.
"You all agreed to it [Adrien coming, though they didn't actually know cause she tiptoed around saying anything useful cause she didn't wanted to be told "no"], but it looks like it didn't change his mind, and now everything is ruined [puts her head on the table]"
Like, girl, that's a crazy victim-complex on display right here. Omfg.
In a situation where Marinette thinks having the 100th kiss this evening is the only way that'll cosmically seal their happiness, and not having it will cosmically doom everything and she'll apparently never know happiness again,
Girl sure showed NO self-awareness that the reason why Adrien explicitly said "no" several times was because SHE forgot the plans she already made with her friends, as well as not realizing that she nuked any normal chance for him to change his mind by keeping on insisting on him attending without listening to what he's saying (which she continued doing):
But for Marinette, that didn't matter. In her eyes, there was nothing SHE could have possibly done that could result in her being anything but innocent in their relationship ending up being cosmically doomed. Only ADRIEN can be wrong in the case of this specific evening deciding their fate as couple. Not her. Not even for a single SECOND, her.
And on a VERY important note:
She also doesn't think that withholding the knowledge of this cosmic event from Adrien is unfair or a factor in itself that could POSSIBLY be what's upsetting fate. Only SHE deserves information and is unquestionably MEANT to have it, while ADRIEN has to unrealistically bend over backwards and submit to her will to prove that he will bring her eternal happiness and without getting to know the context either.
Funny how that is perfectly in line with the constant conflict now going on even after the season 5 finale. ADRIEN (or everyone else) has to prove that Marinette will be given eternal happiness, care, consideration, and will be catered to almost no matter what because that's still pretty much all her anxiety is canonically about, like in s4 and 5.
And that's the thing that gets me in this. That Marinette, until the akuma battle, fully blamed everyone else BUT herself for everything, with the sobbing on the table scene summarizing it:
"You all agreed to it [Adrien coming, though they didn't actually know cause she tiptoed around saying anything useful cause she didn't wanted to be told "no"], but it looks like it didn't change his mind, and now everything is ruined [puts her head on the table]"
If Marinette's anxiety and trauma actually were manifesting the way her fans/ stans make it out to be, then Marinette's instinctive reaction here would have been crying about and damning her own forgetfulness and lack of focus for ruining her chance of happiness.
But that's not what's happening in Daddycop. Marinette only ever blames ADRIEN and SHE is only the victim. In her eyes, this cosmic event was at its core about HER and no one else.
She doesn't desperately try to let Adrien know that there is an important cosmic event going on - that she's aware of and he isn't -and that it could doom their future if they don't save their love TOGETHER.
And she doesn't try any plan like calling him during girls night because she "forgot" to buy something important, but knows HE has it at home, too, so could he please come over at a certain time and bring it along? Where she then could kiss him at the right time.
Still questionable in method, but I'd get the vision due to her acknowledging that SHE is the reason the date didn't happen in the first place. There would be something here to hold onto.
But Marinette in the actual episode does NON of that.
Marinette is sobbing on the table about how ADRIEN not changing his mind, for no reason in his eyes, ruined everything and SHE is nothing but the blameless and broken victim due to HIS actions.
She fully judged Adrien in his worth as her true love and their whole relationship and future on whether she's getting everything she wants without having to communicate what's important, what's going on, and WHY. And, again, it says so much about her in this that she only judges HIM for not magically making up for HER lack of focus, inflexibility, and forgetfulness getting in between fate's plans for them. She's never once judging herself, ONLY HIM.
And I need you to not write that off for a second because PLEASE put into perspective how Marinette would have treated Adrien the next day in school if it hadn't been for the akuma battle having cleared her mind.
I don't care if you don't wanna hear it, but Marinette wrote off their entire relationship and Adrien as the right partner for her because "he didn't prove it by changing his mind to magically only exist in the perfect way to validate her spiraling that she never communicates".
If it hadn't been for the akuma battle and the other girls going after Sabrina, Marinette not only would have mentally already broken up with Adrien, but she (based on her more than consistent characterization) also would have at first kept her distance from Adrien in silence the next day, only to eventually reveal that she's blaming him for breaking her heart by neglecting and dismissing her efforts to spend time with him and how that showed her that they are not meant to be and there is no hope for them.
Which, btw, sure would have put Adrien seeing THIS face, after not letting her have her way ONE TIME, in an even nastier context because it was already a red flag he handled with alot of patience and consideration for her anxiety and "squirks" (which makes it even worse that she proceeds to blame him for everything):
Worst case scenario, Adrien would have had every single friend turned against him. But even in the best case scenario, Adrien would need to practically beg on his knees for Marinette to PLEASE believe him that telling her "no, we'll date tomorrow" doesn't mean she isn't the love of his life and he will do ANYTHING to prove to her that he will make up for the pain she experienced because he didn't "consider her anxiety enough".
Quite realistically speaking, Marinette would have not been fully convinced by that and Alya and the girls might have even have to eventually figure out that Marinette's bs is rooted in some cosmic fate thing her mother told her about, so they would need to involve Sabine who would then need to hold her daughter's hand, explain to her that fate isnt real, and beg Marinette to let her abused and orphaned boyfriend take care of her and worship her again.
Like, THAT was the set-up situation we fortunately dodged like a bullet. But for way too long, THAT was where the situation was leading to as the full narrative scale of Marinette blaming Adrien and only viewing herself as the victim.
But the worst thing about this is that her blaming Adrien is the one thing the message of the episode kinda sweeps under the rug again and gives no satisfying ending to. For the whole girls squad plot, the episode at least has her properly acknowledge that she sidelined her friends for her boyfriend and didn't pay attention to anything or anyone else in front of her again:
"[...] and I, too, want to apologize. Ive been focusing so much on my relationship with Adrien that... I forgot to give my attention to the ones that really need it (Sabrina). I promise, I'll be more attentive from now on *hugs Sabrina*"
(Let's ignore for a sec that the show had Marinette say that her freshly orphaned and abused boyfriend apparently DOESN'T actually need more of her special attention. What a 'charming' lesson after Illustrhater and Sublimation that only came to be now because Marinette was told "no" one time. As if Adrien not wanting to date ONE EVENING, when he didnt wanted to because he knew she would ignore her friends for it so he wants to date tomorrow, somehow means he doesn't need special consideration anymore the way she gets because thats normal in a relationship. No wonder she almost killed him one episode later lol Trying not to do that would have required more special attention and consideration than the whole custody situation already asked of her. I guess that's the lesson here, huh? lol)
But the lesson in the end also explicitly states that Marinette learned that her focusing so much on Adrien was the thing she did wrong. Meaning, what was "wrong" is still entirely Adrien-associated in Marinette's head.
"I forgot something! *kisses Adrien* 100! I wanted to save it for our special evening, but.. in the end.. I realized that we don't need a conjunction or fireworks to love each other"
And towards Adrien she says that she learned that they don't need these special things she planned to love each other (side note: would he even know what she randomly means by conjunction? WE and Marinette know what this refers to, but Adrien has no context for it)
Only that all of that doesn't acknowledge how Marinette unfairly put all blame on Adrien when she thought fate was real and you just have to hope in good faith that Marinette truly got her mind out of the gutter somewhere off-screen since yesterday.
Cause her just saying "but.. in the end.. I realized that we don't need a conjunction or fireworks to love each other"" isn't actually clarifying that, when contextually all she may as well be saying here is "I'm so glad I realized that you aren't the bad guy who's all alone to blame for ruining our relationship and my happiness forever🥹"
Like, you get what I'm saying, right?
She stopped blaming Adrien in the end and didn't act like him saying "no, please wait one day", one time, equaled him breaking her heart and breaking up with her, because she cleared her head during an akuma fight and a friend crisis which made her realized that the whole cosmic thing wasn't happening in the first place.
And not because she realized that even IF the cosmic fate event had been real, then ADRIEN wouldn't have been the one in the wrong anyway because SHE was the whole reason, in numerous ways, for why he said "no".
There is a difference here that the episode was not willing to actually clarify because the end scene would play out exactly the same even if it were only "Marinette letting Adrien 'off the hook' because she realized that the cosmic event not being real now makes HER the guilty one. Hence why she looks sheepish and apologetic".
But that tells us nothing about how this would have ended if she still were convinced fate was real. The episode, seemingly, just suddenly had her drop that belief during or after the akuma battle. Definitely nowhere near on-screen and explained. So the end scene, contextually, does not correspond to all the Adrinette set up we saw. Those are two very different circumstances.
During the set up, she thought fate is real. During the end scene, she already let go of that belief since yesterday. And that's a pretty significant thing to sweep under the rug again regarding Marinette's consistent characterizations. Cause this IS fully in character for her to do and it's only made worse by Miraculous often implying, or sometimes even outright SAYING, that fate, destiny and even LUCK are real cosmic forces that run their universe. You know, for example the way Tikki herself made a lucky charm specifically for a renounced MARIBUG in the second half of "Kwamis Choice" and the universe fucking maneuvered that Lucky Charm right into Marinette's arms all by itself? Yeah. That counts. And its only one of countless of times they do stuff like this and it's always consistent writing wise.
So what does it say about our main character that they just dropped this point without clarifying whether she actually got her head out of the gutter? Cause that's all they did: they dropped it in favor of making it all about the girls squad message. The end scene doesn't prove shit and the writing went out of its way to leave it like that.
I dont wanna say that I'm having faith in the long-term writing, but I am saying that I'm sick of not treating this show like the well-planned product the writers demand it to be. Not my fault or problem when the product doesnt hold up what we're being told. In that case, I just have more proof that they COULD be telling a cohesive and interesting story, they just refuse to.
Can I tell you the best and the most important thing about "I understand you" line from Risk that no one is talking about?
Like we already said - Marinette, Félix and Kagami were the only ones who knew what's going on with Adrien. Even though Félix and Kagami were already familiar with his household more, Marinette had a loving family and never had a better view on his situation but she still understood what's wrong, but it's not just that. It's all about her approach. Félix mocked Adrien "unlike you I can say no to your father" and Kagami yelled at him "who's pulling the strings of your life". Even though they didn't have the same intentions they both told him the same thing "you have to put a stop to it". The thing is that Adrien can't because Gabriel doesn't care about what he wants.
But Marinette, when she asked Adrien "why don't you tell him" and he told her that his father doesn't listen to him and doesn't care, she looked away and said "I understand you".
She didn't need to hear more from Adrien. She didn't tell Adrien to become braver, stronger, she didn't tell him "you're not trying hard enough" which people tell abuse victims all the time, she didn't need to hear more. She understood him. That's exactly why he told her "you're the only one". Because she really was the only one who really understood him.
That's exactly what abuse victims need. They need your support. They don't ask for anything from you, only compassion. Otherwise they feel guilty as if they are responsible for what's happening to them. That's all he needed from a friend. That's why he's holding her hand, that's why he's looking at her like that. She's his safe place. She understands him. In the crowd full of people who don't see him being unhappy and two who see it but they make him feel bad about being unhappy, she was the only one who was nice to him. He found out that he has to leave his home, imagine how he felt. He needed this more than anything in the world and she gave it to him.
Maybe Marinette is just a friend, but she really is his friend. She really is the best.
Hello! Your favourite black-striped white wolf is back!
Where was I? Oh, here and there. Working on school stuff, my own little projects and looking at posts and tweets... oh right!
There blew up a big drama about Marinette as a character. That she is a bad character and bad person... And don't get me wrong, I never really liked her. Some stuff she does are making me furious, but I don't think she deserves all that hate.
Now the more I start to think about her, the more I see what a good character she actually is.
So let's have a closer look at her, shall we?
Marinette's biggest flaw
As the drama is about how bad Marinette is let's see what are the arguments for that.
One thing that I will defenitely agree on is - she is a creeper. And no, not the minecraft creeper, although her antics are as annoying.
Marinette is obsessed with Adrien and there is no doubt about that. That makes her do things that we all are cringing on. Even Marinette fans! (The example is Puppeteer 2.0. If you didn't cringe at her antics when Adrien was pretending to be a statue....... I don't know if I should respect you, or be afraid of you...)
Those actions are pulling me away from her and yes I agree, those qualities aren't the ones children should try and copy. But there is something we can do - skip the cringe. Or at least that's what I do, lol.
So yea, this is reasonable. There is no explanation for this... or is there?
Marinette is 13-14 years old girl. She probably doesn't really know what love is all about. She does what she thinks is right. The worst part? No one tells her to stop.
This isn't entirely Marinette's fault. For me... Tikki is the worst here! She is an ancient being, with great knowledge from old times! Her experience SHOULD make her wise enough to tell her holder: "Hey, this isn't how love works." or something.
Yes I know that kwamis don't know what love is. Or do they?
They do know what love is about. They Do know the Platonic Love. Romantic Love is basing on Platonic Love. Long-term relationships are thriving because friendship is the basics of them. You know that person and you adore everything about her, both strengths and flaws, you comunicate, you spend time together. Marinette right now sees Adrien as some kind of God. She put him on the piedestal due to him being nice to her one time.
And Ephemeral shows that perfectly. When she finds out that Adrien is Chat Noir, she is doubting herself, because she doesn't like the idea/reality that her notorious, pushy partner is the one she claims to love.
At first she doesn't accept him. But later on, she learns how to love him. Both strengths and flaws and I'm pretty sure the whole stalking shit stopped.
So I wouldn't blame Marinette here. I would blame those who encourage that behaviour instead, as Mari is really just a kid.
(^Who doesn't hate that scene?)
Marinette and her treatment of Chloe and Lila
Now here we go to the juicy part!
I have heard beliefs that Marinette treated Chloe and Lila badly. That she should do something else. And you know what? I don't really think so.
Let's get Chloe at the front here.
Chloe the blonde rich-kid. Absolutely spoiled brat, rude to everyone else. And that's understandable with her backstory. But. At first Marinette didn't know about that.
What's more, in Origins we actually know that Chloe and Marinette have incredibly bumpy ride! Like... spikey ride even!
Chloe has bullied Marinette for YEaRs! And as a person who was bullied and isolated by their class in primary school, I can relate with Mari here. This isn't anything nice. You feel lonely, unimportant. You are hurting. So why would you want to be nice to someone who is causing you pain?
"Treat others like you want to be treated."
Every action has a reaction and Marinette is absolutely not obligated by anything to be nice to her bully. Maybe it isn't heroic, but it's human. It fleshes Marinette out.
By that I'm referring to the whole Queen Bee arc.
Yes, Marinette should go and talk to Chloe. And she did eventually! Chloe was the brat that didn't get the information "You may never be Queen Bee again" through her tick skull.
Marinette had all rights to not give Chloe the Bee miraculous again. She isn't comfortable around her so why would she push herself into trusting her bully with her life?
Now let's get to Lila.
And ooh, that one is juicy!
So, Lila is that new girl in school. She becomes very popular for some reason. And then bam! Marinette finds out that she is lying about her superhero persona to her crush! Well, wouldn't you be furious when someone is telling lies about you? When someone would try and use you for their own gain? Exploit you maybe?
That's what all of this was about. That's why Marinette bursted out on her. Should she do that? No, defenitely not. She should confront her more calmly. But. Aren't those types of mistakes what makes everyone of us human?
We all are slaves to our emotions and sometimes we do things by impulse and don't think about consequences. If anything, this situation fleshed her out as a human being even more.
A flaw that will probably be worked on in season 5
Marinette also has another major flaw that should be worked on in season 5. Like, Mari will learn how to not be so controlling.
Season 4 was perfect example of it!
What is it?
Having control over everything. Because when you have control, you are safe.
She admits it in two episodes: Glaciator 2.0 (MariChat in cinema) and Strike Back (Final scene)
Marinette is brought out on a piedestal, being it both as Ladybug and Marinette. She is the guardian of miraculous so she needs to protect the jewels and have a constant eye on them. She is the class representative so she feels like she absolutely needs to help everyone with their problems. She has a golden heart, and thinks that she needs to solve all the problems. She is Ladybug after all! She will find solution to anything!
Marinette needs to learn letting go of the control. Trust with this to someone else (Chat Noir) and lose up a little. She admitted that already and that's first step to working on it.
Marinette is Mary Sue
Absolutely not!
Mary Sue is a character who usually has a tragic backstory, is talented in everything and they doesn't make major mistakes.
Marinette isn't really fitting in neither.
She has a normal backstory, a one that any of us can have. A loving home, friends etc. Yes she has that part with bullying but everyone have some bad things happen to them in the past. They create us and our personality too, y'know.
Marinette isn't talented in everything. Yes she is very creative and has designing talent. Is kicking everyone's butt in games. But she is for example a horrible actor! Look up Horrificator. Or whenever they do a film project, she never takes a role of an actor.
Marinette isn't perfect and there are mistakes that are major. I am not only referring to those she made as Ladybug because they were grieve. Her confronting Lila in a way she did, was a major mistake that brought her an enemy.
But she isn't a bad person either.
Marinette is a very caring person and wants to help everyone around her. She has a golden heart, and as we all know, gold is not only valuable but also it's a very soft metal.
She has passions and hobbies like any person could. She is kind and sympathiseses with people.
She is not a bad person despite all her flaws. All they do is fleshen her out and make her more of a realistic character. :)
Marinette is better as main protagonist, than Adrien
I am bringing this topic here, because I wrote a roleplay with my friend and I have seen few things.
It's very hard to do something with Adrien. He is very secluded, can't really go out and the only way for you to get him out is like in Startrain - a fieldtrip and Adrien has to rebel. Or something like in puppeteer 2.0. Or Photoshoots. Something unusual. No hanging out outside of school, really. It's hard to put new characters when your main protagonist can't really meet them in normal situation. It doesn't make the story in a way they try it to do. A normal days of a child plus superheroing.
Marinette is totally reasonable choice here.
So, that's my take on this topic. What is yours? Do you have anything to add? Maybe you don't agree with me?
I'm open to discussions as long as they stay respectful to both parties ^-^
See this is EXACTLY why Marinette was afraid to confess to Adrien
To everyone who kept saying that her reason to keep her feelings for herself was stupid, now you see why she never did it.
Adrien has always made it clear that Marinette is just a friend to him. They were friends and he was in love with someone but he made it clear many times that it was not her. And eventually that girl was Kagami, and Marinette knew that. So knowing that Adrien is in love with someone else, she couldn't confess, not because she thought she stands no chance but because she was afraid that he will break her heart. Because obviously if he doesn't love her, telling him that she loves him won't change his mind. It will only break her heart.
And she said it right before this thing was about to happen to her, unfortunately.
In Elation, she and Chat Noir love each other. And it's not the same as with Adrien because Chat Noir is 100% open about his feelings, he told her many times that he loves and they kissed and they were happy and it was all going well, until he said they can't date aka broke her heart. Everything worked out fine and she was so happy that she can date the boy she loves FINALLY after so long but then, even though he had a good reason, he rejected her. She got stood up. And that's what broke her. She was trying so hard to avoid being broken hearted from Adrien, who wasn't in love with her at the same time back then, that she didn't see it coming this time because Chat Noir confessed and took her out on a date and kissed her and THEN broke up with her. Which was ten times worse than rejecting her right away. So either way she experienced heartbreak.
And let's not forget how Luka broke up with her too because she is Ladybug and she didn't have enough space for him in her life.
And she finally got tired of it. It wasn't just the heartbreak that drew her over the edge but also how being Ladybug is taking away everything from her. But being Ladybug isn't the thing that actually hurt her so much. This was the final straw that nearly got her akumatized.
No wonder she was so unhappy and unable to understand why that happened because he gave her everything and then changed his mind right after. He said it feels like taking advantage of a fan when in reality she was already taken advantage of and it resulted in nothing. She opened up to the boy like this and gave it all for the first time and it backfired. So of course this girl is terrified of saying how she feels and she's going to feel even worse now because of this.
And of course she thinks boys really don't want her, because she felt like this three times already. They either break up with her because she is Ladybug or they break up with her because she is Marinette or they don't love her because she is Marinette. And she feels stupid for just trying to love someone because it can't happen. It just can't happen. She's not so lucky.
She took cataclysm to her heart three times already. Imagine how afraid of love she's going to be after this episode.
Just as I promised, a sugar analysis on Ladybug side of Marinette's character:
Now I know that after Strikeback there are some of you saying that she is a bad guardian and all but I want to break it in pieces starting from Marinette's role as Ladybug. Is she really as bad as you say she is?
Is Marinette a bad Ladybug?
Is that even a question?! This is the girl who thought she was not good enough until the girl she just met was in danger and this girl just swooped in and saved her. And after that the girl who bullied her for years was also in a life or death situation and Marinette saved her a$$ because she put her emotions behind. Other person's life was her priority regardless of who that was - the girl who was nice to her or the girl who wasn't. This is the girl who didn't take credit for the gift she gave to her crush because he would be crushed if he found out his father didn't give him a birthday gift that year. This is the girl who ALWAYS has to be everywhere and help everyone and do everything for everyone because she wants to. She is selfless and brave and generous.
This is also the girl who always no matter what happens can figure out what her lucky charm is for. Or she used it properly. I know I already talked about episodes when she calculates time and space (Backwarder, Timetagger), or episodes where she breaks the plot with her big brain (The Night Owl, Optigami), or when she unified every miraculous in Kwamibuster and pretend to be two people at the same time, but we don't give her enough credit for Strikeback. Because everyone is talking about "Ladybug failed oh no" but can we talk about how she recruit Adrien because he was presumably the only one who didn't have a tattoo (akuma) on his neck and she knew choosing someone like that would be safe AND she was careful not to cause a time paradox?! Even me, who was a hardcore Doctor Who, The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow fan, always forget how time paradox works.
Here's the deal: She didn't go back in time to prevent the akumatization, she went back in time to figure out what the akumatized object is. Because if she caught the akuma in the past that same akuma would not exist in present day and she wouldn't have had the reason to go back in time so she wouldn't. And that's how time paradox works.
But like she knew it! She did it! She travelled through time once with Bunnyx and she immediately knew what to do the second time all by herself. I mean
!!! She's so clever and she thinks everything till the last detail like c'mon!
This also the girl who doesn't go like "I'm right you're wrong" when she knows she's not right, when she does something wrong, she will admit it, she will apologise. Those are not common traits. She KNEW Chloé is not a saint, she still decided to help her, she KNEW both her and Kagami are wrong, she stepped back, she KNEW both Lila and her were wrong, she offered Lila peace. That's not what everyone else would do. I'm talking only about Miraculous Ladybug, I'm talking about people. She's only a kid and she's alright better than at least 90% of adults in that show and about 2/3 people I know. If she was a bad person she wouldn't be able to be good Ladybug but she is the best Ladybug. We already had two other characters who tired to use her miraculous and they couldn't be as good as her. Marinette is the best and the only Ladybug. The og Ladybug of her generation.
She got the whole Paris to cheer for her when she messed up! She is THAT powerful.
Is Marinette a bad guardian?
From what can be seen in this picture clearly - and from this scene if you know the context - kwamis adore her. On her first day of being the guardian, Marinette was learning about kwamis and powers and she was worried if kwamis don't have enough space in the box so she let them fly around in her room. It's risky if someone sees them, but it's good for kwamis. She also put paper on her window so no would see kwamis when they walk pass her house. As someone a pet owner, they can be REALLY annoying when you're trying to sleep and if I had kwamis too I would lock them up while I sleep but she let them be free. Probably because she doesn't sleep a lot anyway. She brings kwamis different snacks and she even put the phone in the miracle box for emergencies! That is good. And I know I said this MILION times but THE HANDMADE SAFE WITH A LOCK!!! Gurl, I'm older than you but you're the one who taught me a lot of great things! Everyone can be a guardian but not everyone can be a good guardian. Marinette really cares about kwamis. She makes them tiny accessories...
This is cute af! 😍😍😍
She also took kwamis to see Fu again, because they asked her to. She helped Tikki with her chocolate cravings, something Tikki was ashamed of, and she shouldn't because that's relatable. I too go chocolate crazy sometimes. Not as crazy as her but a lot of us loves chocolate. And Marinette didn't blame her for it or lectured her, she offered her help and support. No one can say that Marinette treats kwamis badly and that's something that's really important for the role of the guardian. And all this is more than what Fu was doing for these little ones.
When Marinette revealed her identity to another miraculous holder she did it a) because she was desperate, b) because she knew she can trust Alya and c) because revealing her identity to Chat Noir or anyone who knows Chat's identity already would mean that once this person is akumatized, Hawk Moth will find out both of their identities in the same time. Marinette knew Hawk Moth knows Alya's identity already so she and Alya had a deal for Alya to go undercover so that not only Hawk Moth but also no one except for Ladybug would find out. That was responsible. You can't say it's not.
And she gave every superhero a miraculous after she knew them for a long time and knew she can trust them, she also asked them if they want to. She gave them a choice. Fu didn't do any of this.
She has a lot of potential but this is too early and she's too young. And it's not her fault that it's too early. She's in the wrong place at the wrong time and she needed more training and more studying and more practice and more experience as a hero first before she took the role of the guardian. Of course, for that, look at the man who gave her that responsibility and taught her that her life needs to depend on it, not her. She's trying.
Is Ladybug treating Chat Noir badly?
I put this here because Ladynoir dynamic is one of major things for Ladybug's autobiography and I got T-I-R-E-D of this salt take! And the reason for that is lame. "sHe DoEsN't NoTiCe He Is SaD" even this sentence is incorrect! She noticed, she asked him, and every time she asked he said everything is alright. She doesn't want to push and she doesn't read minds. She is doing her part of the job and only when she can and only when he lets her she's going to help him. And btw whenever she rejected his feelings it's because she doesn't feel the same way. Even in Glaciator 2 when she threw him - yes it was harsh, I love him too, I don't like to see him hurt - but do you're remember the episode Félix? When she punched Félix BEFORE she figured out it's not Adrien, when he tried to kiss her forcefully. She's gonna react like this to ANYONE when they want to kiss her without her consent, that's the line you should not cross not just Marinette, but with every person ever. That Glaciator 2 scene was annoying me to death bc people tell me my favourite character is abuser. Because she demands personal space, right? And don't get me started on "she's gaslighting Chat Noir" cuz do you even understand what "gaslighting" means?
You do realize that Ladybug not telling Chat Noir about Rena Rouge is not the same as Ladybug emotionally abusing him and manipulating him?
Ladybug was protecting Rena and herself here too. If she told Chat and he got akumatized, her biggest nightmare, remember? Remember when she got traumatised for life?
If Chat knew and got akumatized, he would've told Hawk Moth about Rena and Rena knows who Ladybug is so Ladybug would be toast and so will the whole world. I hope this clears it up.
And Kuro Neko? Chat Noir didn't show up and she doesn't know why, an episode earlier she argued with Su-Han that Chat Noir is reliable, and then Chat Noir disappeared after one argument. Same with NY special. What do you mean "Ladybug should've been nicer cuz he has abandonment issues". A) how is she supposed to know that and b) she has emotions and she should react. If someone didn't listen to her, if they made a deal and he didn't follow it, if it was important and it was, she should be angry. It doesn't matter who that is. Why do you always want her to adjust to everyone's childhood trauma, why is it never "this character should be nicer to Marinette as well, she's not the only one who needs to change, she deserves people to treat her better too". And since when do the same people who say "they should be equal" want Ladynoir dynamic to be only beneficial to one of them? Because that's not Ladynoir is about! We should totally just stab salters!
(I have to explain the last part is the Mean Girls reference for those who didn't get it because I got accused of slander against Marinette salters for saying it so just in case).
Adrien being in love with Marinette is being in love with her true self and I'm not saying that Ladybug isn't who she really is but Ladybug is always just a part of Marinette that is for business and business only even though this is her this isn't complete her, it doesn't contain Marinette's crucial goofy and tense side only her clever and determined side, while Marinette being in love with Chat Noir right now is being in love with Adrien's true self and that doesn't mean that Adrien (as the public sees him) isn't who he is but that Adrien is also just as goofy and relaxed as Chat Noir but now when he became more sensitive and more romantic rather than bold and flirty that's when he became complete self and that's when Marinette fell in love with him. Marinette has always been her true complete self when she's not Ladybug because she had all her traits and flaws and everything on her while Chat Noir only now possesses Adrien's real personality.
And now we see Ladybug acting more like Marinette through seasons and letting herself be vulnerable just like Adrien is acting more casually as Adrien through seasons and soon their masks will not be their covers, they will be able to express themselves and who they are because you can tell they are confused about it just like us, and that's why the reveal would be very good because allowing themselves to be themselves in front of each other would make their journey to find their true selves complete.
