#marvel 616

[goodcap-badcops]

every time people forget that Steve Rogers is a master hacker and can do more than just using Google, an angel dies

[jetskiithejester]

I fear the next time I read Spun Sugar it will be with these voices.

[magewardensurana]

it's delightful that Clark Kent exists in earth-616 as a regular, non-powered journalist who is a bit of a superhero fanboy.

[claudette13]

west coast avengers ultron

A little unfinished drawing from the latest w.c. avengers run.

[joiningsaturn46]

Underrated Spider-Man team-ups? Who do you like to see Peter and/or Miles hang out with aside from the popular picks (Johnny, Matt, the Champions)?

Underrated is a difficult term to use since what can be seen as underrated to one person is basic to others. But with that said, here's who I actually like to see in my Spidey books.

Peter Parker Picks His Pack of Peers

Steve Rogers — This is the easiest one for me since Steve actually comes into Peter's world nicely, and he isn't a jackass, so it's fun when he shows up. I love the childhood-hero aspect Peter has, and it's fun to see Steve respect Peter in a way no other hero does. I also think it's fun that Spidey team-ups usually let Steve loosen up a bit and joke more.

Ben Grimm — Despite hanging out with Johnny a lot, I think Peter and Ben actually have really funny chemistry. Ben will often point to Peter as what Johnny "should" be doing, and it's fun. I also like how Ben's calmer nature often acts as a barrier to letting Peter do stupid shit.

Jean DeWolff — This one is something longtime Spidey fans know, but Jean was fucking awesome. She was basically like Gordon for Spidey, but a little harsher, and often talked back to him, which made her more fun. I liked how she still had Peter's back in most instances, and it was a good way to showcase Peter growing up and becoming a fixture in the world. Yuri Watanabe was a thing too, until Marvel blew their load and turned her into a supervillain/vigilante.

Miles Morales Must Make His Choice of Mates

Rhino — Especially now that he seems to have reformed. He was in the latest Miles solo early on, and it was great seeing him work alongside the newest Spidey. Since he and Miles don't have the animosity Rhino has with Peter, it makes sense when they team up.

Blade — This one's just because Blade is cool. Also, in the most recent solo, and like, I don't know, man, I'm using the rule of cool here. Miles is cool. Blade is cool. Two cool dudes.

Scott Summers — Okay, but when I say Cyclops, I mean adult Cyclops. I love it in books when the now adult, jaded leader of the X-Men still talks about his time on the Champions. And the instances when a former member of the team runs into him, it's fun to see him let his guard down and smile once more. God knows he needs it.

[joiningsaturn46]

Got recs for a Spider-Man reading list in preparation for BND? 👀

This is kind of a hard question to answer, cause to be quite frank, the MCU does not care about comic accuracy, and I have no doubt BND will be the same.

But with what I can tell from the trailers, here's what I'd read. Keep in mind the movie will most likely only use the barest of plot points, so take these as pieces of a larger whole, not a 1:1 adaptation.

Spectacular Spider-Man (vol 2) #17-20, aka "Changes" Best case I can find for what they're doing with the mutation stuff. Peter's body starts to change, giving him organic webbing and making him more spider-like. There's also a storyline called Spider-Man: The Other, but that connects to something else.

Amazing Spider-Man #546-564: The actual Brand New Day era. Lots of backstory, but the basics: Peter and MJ are no longer together, and Peter basically backtracked the last 5 years of his life. Best place to start modern Spidey, and probably the best entry point for new readers too.

Outside of those two, I don't have much else, since again, the MCU just picks and chooses. I'd keep reading ASM past 546 if you want more, but past those two books, it's kind of a mix and match of random stuff from across Spidey's history.

[joiningsaturn46]

Planning a Spider-Man readthrough for some point in the future, how do Spectacular and Web of work? I tend toward maximalism, but I’d ideally want to stick to ASM. However, if the spin-offs are worth the time and I have a reading guide, I’m not opposed to reading them as well.

Are they mostly self-contained? Are they worth the time? Do they weave in and out of ASM like 1980s Batman/‘Tec or the Triangle Era? Is there a good guide or list of issues that’d help?

Thanks pal!

Ok, so I went ahead and checked some stuff to make sure I was right. Like you, I actually did have to double-check this before I started my own readthrough.

So the main title, ASM, stands totally on its own until, like the late 80s. Spectacular Spider-Man starts in December of 76 right next to ASM #163, but it operates the same way Action Comics does with Superman. Just a 2nd book for Spidey fans. I will say Spectacular does have some more character work, and I do recommend reading it. Same with Web, it's just more Spidey, but I also know that in some circles it is seen as the more "mature" Spidey book since it was given more creative freedom than the main books.

The first REAL crossover is Kraven's Last Hunt since you need all three books to get the whole story: Web of #31, ASM #293, Spectacular #131, Web of #32, ASM #294, Spectacular #132. All of these are collected in basically every trade and the epic collections (best way to get Spidey rn until Marvel stops acting like jackasses and makes compacts).

Now I've been clear on the fact that I hate 90s Marvel and ASM, and it's basically because it does a triangle era thing but kinda worse. Spectacular and Web of basically merge into one story split across two titles, especially once Gerry Conway is writing both at once and just running the same subplots through them. And once you hit Venom/Carnage and then the Clone Saga in 94-96, get ready to lock the fuck in for some bullshit since you can't just read ASM anymore. (Also, at some point, the book changes to Scarlet Spider since Ben takes over, but who asked, right?)

For an actual reading guide, Comic Book Herald's ASM reading order is the one everyone points to; it only pulls in the spin-offs where they matter and tells you flat out when you can skip. It does collect by trade, but the actual issue numbers are underneath each one, so you'll be fine. Just know that once the 90s hit, there are about 4 main Spidey titles which, as a Superman fan, you'll be ready for, but for me, it was awful.

TL;DR: ASM alone is fine til the late 80s. Spectacular and Web of are optional, but good before that. Kraven's Last Hunt is where it stops being optional, and from the early 90s on, just have a guide open.

[joiningsaturn46]

Hey! I was wondering if I could get some nice recs to get these LOCG badges 👀 asking the local Spidey enjoyer from my mutuals seems like a good idea!

Hey, sorry for taking so long!

TBH, idk how most comic badges work, but here is what I would recommend if possible. Idk much about the Hulk or Punisher badges tbh I'm sorry. I kinda just read for the webhead.

For the MJ badge

Amazing Spider-Man #42 (1966) - MJ's first real appearance

Amazing Spider-Man #122 (1973) - Gwen's death, MJ steps up for Peter

Amazing Spider-Man #143 (1978) - First kiss and basically the actual "start" of the romance

Amazing Spider-Man #182 (1978) - Peter's first proposal

Amazing Spider-Man Annual #21 (1987) - the wedding issue

Spider-Man: Parallel Lives (1989) - MJ's full backstory, how she really felt about Peter all along

For the six, it's probably easiest to just read the intro comics for each villain, so

Doctor Octopus - Amazing Spider-Man #3 (1963)

Vulture - Amazing Spider-Man #2 (1963)

Sandman - Amazing Spider-Man #4 (1964)

Electro - Amazing Spider-Man #9 (1964)

Mysterio - Amazing Spider-Man #13 (1964)

Kraven the Hunter - Amazing Spider-Man #15 (1964)

The Sinsiter Six - Amazing Spider-Man Annual #1 (1964)

I hope this helps. Again, I hope I'm not late!