#mbti conversations

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ENTJ : i feel like shit.

INTP : why?

ENTJ : idk, i went to the gym took my meds and done all the tasks today.

INTP : did you work today?

ENTJ : no, *GASP* that must be the reason.

INTP : Fgs you're such a workaholic, you dont have to work all the time to feel happy, your worth isnt your work you know.

ENTJ: .. Yeah you're right.. But i cant.

INTP : *long sigh*

(real conv)

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I'm having a mbti crisis (fucking again, yes). I've read a lot about the differences between infj and intp, ni dom vs ti dom and each cognitive function but my head is actually exploding with so much information, which I don't even know if it gives away something and I'm just not seeing it? I don't know if the way i perceive information is logical and analytical because I do feel that it is sometimes but then again I'm all about patterns and that seems to be a recurring word in the infj archetype. I've always felt that I'm both intuition and rational, I don't really know where one begins but I just sometimes notice things and my head feels like a whole world with information that seems so useless but I can't help to gather from every single place i'm in? I don't even know, on the other side, I'm not clear minded and intuition oriented in a Ni way?? my head is all over the place and sometimes the amount of possibilities (another key word for Ne) overwhelms me HORRIBLY, like it freezes me, but I end up shutting every logical part of me to decide because otherwise i will never move on. Also I'm very much in tune with other people and sometimes it's so overwhelming to feel what other people feel and to be so conscious of every subtext in a social gathering is EXHAUSTING which is why i need so much alone time.

And lastly, i am future oriented but I don't know if it's in a Ni or Ne way. Let me give an example. Just a few seconds ago I've decided that I'm going to try and not put so many personal things in my phone because I know that a lot of people get robbed at least once in their lifes and it's very dangerous out there, especially now, so if someone were to take away my phone, all the things I care about would not be there. How would i do that? Taking pictures and printing them, keeping a journal instead of my phone notes, erase messages sometimes, etc.

I feel like with everything i wrote here It's kinda obvious but it really isn't to me, if someone has a piece of advice i would really appreciate it

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Fi vs. Fe: expression and interpretation of judgements

ESTJ: Something I'm noticing again is how different our communication is. If I didn't know you, I would actually be a bit offended by the way you are saying some things.

INFJ: Why? What things? What did I do?

ESTJ: I always make a very clear distinction between sentences like "I think that's weird" and "That's weird." I know that you use the second one and mean it in the way I'd use the first, but I always have to take a step back when you do because to me, something like "that's weird" is incredibly arrogant as if you assume the moral high ground on what is normal and what is weird as if it was a fact and not just your personal opinion.

INFJ: But such things are always inherently subjective, so why would I need to make a difference between a subjective opinion and a fact when it simply cannot be a fact?

INFP: I completely agree with ESTJ on this, actually.

ESTJ: I'd actually say that by saying it in this way without explicitly marking it as an opinion, you deliberately convey that it is not subjective. Like when I say "the Earth is round", then that's a fact and I'll argue about it. Saying "I think that's weird", that's an opinion. I'm not going to argue about it, you can think what you want. But just saying "that's weird" to me sounds like you are putting yourself above me to tell me the rules that you yourself made up. And I know that that's not how you, INFJ, mean things because I know you, but it's interesting how differently we feel about this.

INFJ: Very interesting! Because I only find it offensive when someone hits me with a "you do this" etc., thus singling me out. That's also why I'd find an "I think that's weird" a lot more offensive than a "that's weird" because with the first, to me, you're separating yourself from me. I don't really view myself as an individual, I'm part of a group, so a separation like this feels like you're pointing your finger at me. That's personal. Saying "that's weird", however, is just a statement that something strays from the standard, it's more neutral.

INFP: Incredible. That's so wildly different from the way I would ever interpret the presence of an "I" in a sentence.

ESTJ: Why would there be a standard for anything? I don't think there is a standard for behaviour. That, again, feels very presumptuous to me. I mean, who is to say that your normal is the actual normal? Maybe I'm normal and you're the weird one. So saying "that's weird" sounds very patronising to me.

INFJ: See, I don't see it like that at all. To me, the standard is not necessarily something that you do yourself. It's the collective, like an average. It's impersonal, just an observation. A convention. Like I said, the judgement, to me, is the personal distancing from the other person.

ESTJ: I think I just never assume there is a standard because that would always include a judgement. And I feel more like an individual than as a part of a group.

INFP: INFJ is just one step ahead of us in socialism.

INFJ: But isn't there always a standard for everything? How you behave in this situation or in that situation, how close you can stand to someone in a queue etc. So there is always a norm and when you stray from the norm, it's noticeable. There is always a bit of leeway, but you use this norm as a guide for everything, don't you? So the standard is without judgement, it's just what's done, and then it's up to you to decide whether you want to adhere to it or not.

ESTJ: No, I disagree. I think people are far too complex and different that they could ever define a norm for everything.

INFJ: See, that's what I find presumptuous. No one is that special.

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My dad is a walking ENTP stereotype, and I wanted to share some of the examples I have of situations with him so you can understand what it’s like to live under the same roof as him:

(YES I LIED ABOUT DELETING MY MBTI NOTES BUT THESE CONVERSATIONS WERE JUST SO STEREOTYPICAL AND I NEEDED TO SHARE THEM SOMEWHERE)

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More MBTI conversations I’ve had, heard or read in the past 2 months so I can finally get rid of my notes:

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More MBTI conversations I’ve heard or had on this year

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Actual conversations I’ve had with different MBTI types

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Gavin Reed ENTP (The debater)

lol, he even looks like his personality icon 😅

I really love an explanation ❤️ it says it all I guess ✨