Alya: Wait hold on for a minute. You are Ladybug and I'm your best friend. That means Lila is not ladybug's best friend. Was that Lila lying all along?
REALITY
Marinette: and I... I'm Ladybug!
Alya: Wait hold on for a minute. You are Ladybug and Lila is Ladybug's best friend. That means, you were best friends with Lila all along as Ladybug and bad mouthed her as your true self? That's really low of you Marinette.
GODDAMN WHY IS EVERYONE UNDER LILA'S SPELL? SEEING ALYA NOT SUPPORTING MARINETTE IN EPISODE RISK EVEN AFTER KNOWING SHE'S LADYBUG, REALLY MADE MY HEART ACHE.
Just hear me out okay? I know this post is very long but I do think this is important and many people need to realize this. But that's just my interpretation of things. You can either add to my points or even debunk them if you think they're bad examples for this. But I think we can all agree that both of them have serious communication problems.
I saw the trailers for Kuro Neko and I saw what people are saying about it.
Everyone's blaming Ladybug.
The Issue people tend to ignore is that this wasn't only caused by Marinette. I'm going to explain what I mean by this in this post.
To make things more clear why it's not just Marinette with communication problems I'm gonna mention Lukanette, Adrigami, and some episodes from seasons 1, 2, 3, and 4.
Both of these relationships struggled because of communication problems. Marinette couldn't be open about her identity as Ladybug and Adrien wasn't being honest about his feelings. This made both Luka and Kagami feel like Marinette and Adrien didn't love them and didn't want to spend time with them. Instead of being honest and telling what's going on they just kept on going like that for some time. Even when breaking up they did not explain why they acted like this. They didn't even have to lie nor reveal the truth to explain it.
The same issue can be seen throughout the entire show. Instead of Ladybug telling Cat Noir how she feels about him trying to make her fall in love with him, she at first treats it like a joke and even flirts back and participates in his banter, making him think she likes it. Later on, when she realizes he's serious about it Ladybug still participates in his banter and then gets mad at him "for goofing around and flirting with her instead of focussing on the job".
What did Cat Noir do about this?
Well... He of course thought he may have a chance so he kept doing it. Then comes season 2 and things get a little rockier.
In Prime Queen Ladybug got mad at Nadja for trying to make them look like they're in love. Seeing the picture he ignored Ladybug's reaction, thinking she may love him. So of course he kept declaring his love for Ladybug.
In Glaciator Cat Noir is sad because Ladybug did not come to his surprise rooftop date thing even tho she told him she could not come because she was doing things with her friends. After that, he throws a tantrum and does not want to participate in Ladybug's plan because it hurt his feelings that she didn't come. At the end of the Episode, Cat Noir declares his love for her once again.
In Frozer Cat Noir throws a tantrum once again after being rejected by Ladybug. And guess what. He goes right back to declaring his love for her the next time he sees her.
There also was Siren in season 2. I forgot about that. Anyway, Master Fu did not allow Ladybug to tell Cat Noir about him but instead of explaining to CN why she couldn't tell him she just says she can't say. So Cat Noir feels left out and almost gives up his Miraculous. And instead of Cat Noir telling her directly how he felt he didn't admit it, only half admitted.
In season 3 there's Oblivio which I think is an important Episode when it comes to this. Once again Cat Noir ignored Ladybug's reaction and declared he will make her fall for him.
The rest of season 3 I pretty much blocked out. Anyway, during all of these times throughout seasons 1,2 and 3 Ladybug usually participated in Cat Noir's banter instead of telling him politely she didn't like his flirting.
Oh boy and then comes Season 4. This is where everything goes wrong. Ladybug pushed Cat Noir away instead of telling him about Cat Blanc and her feelings about what happened with the Guardianship etc. And Cat Noir just let this happen. Instead of talking to her that it hurt his feelings that she didn't talk to him, he kept quiet about it. When Marinette told Alya her identity she waited until after Scarabella to tell him someone knew about her identity. And when Adrien learned about Nino's and Alya's identities he didn't talk to Ladybug and ask her why they know their identities while Cat Noir and Ladybug couldn't know their identities.
In Lies (I think) Marinette forgot about her patrol with Cat Noir and instead of explaining why she missed the patrol she didn't say anything.
In Gang of Secrets Ladybug was pretty much having a mental breakdown in the cinema and instead of talking she ignored Cat Noir's offer to help.
In Glaciator 2 Ladybug got mad at Cat Noir and everyone who shipped her and Cat Noir causing him to force himself to ignore his feelings for Ladybug instead of LB talking to him and the others calmly.
In Sentibubbler Cat Noir got mad at Rena Rouge and Ladybug because of that "two-person" plan. Instead of talking to LB about it, he kept it to himself preferring to bottle up his feelings like he usually does.
I know there's definitely more episodes in s4 which show the miscommunication especially when it comes to CN feeling left out and not talking to LB about feeling left out but I think you get what I mean. Both of them struggle to communicate with each other. As seen even before that trailer there have been problems with the communication between the two of them.
⚠️SPOILER⚠️:
In the new trailer we saw Adrien give up his ring and Marinette talking about finding a new Black Cat. Then we see Cat Walker appear.
Everyone seems to be mad at LB for saying this but the issue people don't seem to realize when Cat Noir was "replaced" by Cat Walker is that Adrien willingly gave up his Miraculous. Marinette can't tell Plagg to go find his holder and force Cat Noir to take the ring back. That wouldn't work because he gave up the ring which happened because of the lack of communication on both sides. It wasn't just Ladybugs fault. Yes, Ladybug should not have treated him that way even if she's stressed because of her new role and annoyed/mad that Cat Noir won't accept her rejection but Cat Noir is also responsible for the fight between them. How was Ladybug supposed to know how Cat Noir feels if he does not tell her how he feels about the new Miraculous Holders, her Guardian role, and the fact he feels left out (and to some extent the rejection)? She could not have known because she can't look in his head.
Cat Noir is gone. She does not know who he is and she knows even if she knew who he was she couldn't just tell him to take the ring back because it would make things worse but she also knows she needs a Black Cat to balance her out. So the only thing she most likely thinks she could do at that moment is try and find a new Black Cat. I am not saying that's the only possible way. I'm saying it's what Marinette probably thought was the best she could do at that moment.
That does not mean she does not miss or want Cat Noir as a partner. They're friends. Friends fight but that does not mean they won't find a way to work things out. The issue they have right now is that neither Ladybug nor Cat Noir wants to talk to each other. If they don't talk the other won't know what's wrong. They can't look in each other's heads. If may be at least one would have tried communicating then the other would have been more willing to communicate too but because none of them were willing to communicate it ended up in this.
Both of them are valid in how they feel. Both of them are keeping secrets from each other. Ladybug isn't telling him why things are changing between the two and Cat Noir isn't telling Ladybug how he feels about everything. If they don't cooperate and tell each other about these things then it's no wonder it came to this. Both of their feelings are valid. So please don't make a war by creating Team Ladybug vs Team Chat Noir or whatever. I've seen those things go wrong. Both of their feelings are valid. Adrichat fans please do not drag Maribug down when you defend Adrichat and Maribug fans please do not drag Adrichat down when you defend Maribug. Both of their feelings are valid and it makes sense. I can understand why they'd feel that way. I can also understand why neither of them wanted to open up until now. Adrien was sheltered all of his life so he probably never had someone to talk to about things so he most likely adopted the unhealthy habit of bottling everything up. Marinette is scared of doing things wrong especially since she knows about Cat Blanc and probably also because it seems like Su-Han is breathing down her neck, when she does the slightest mistake he will take away not just her's but also Cat Noir's and every other Miraculous away. And combined with Cat Noir not accepting Ladybug's boundaries when it comes to his crush on her she probably pushed him away and snapped at him. Neither of these explanations makes better what they did but it makes sense why they did what they did. They are 14 year old children. It's to be expected of them that they have bad communication skills. And we all know Marinette has bad coping skills. Adrien does too as seen with him bottling up his emotions.
Besides, we all know these trailers oftentimes are deceiving. It might be different than we think and even if the Ladynoire argument does happen it will only be for both of their best. They're friends, they're partners. They'll work it out and their bond will be even tighter after that.
