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"They're abusive" "They're toxic" "They hurt each other" "You're normalizing abusive/toxic relationships" "You're normalizing abuse"
I'm really really tired of people calling "toxic/abusive" some ships I like. People -and I'm being serious with this question- do you even understand the definition of a "toxic couple"??? First, to be in a toxic/abusive relationship, the two characters have to be romantically involved. Dabihawks, Bakudeku, Harringrove, Cherik and other ships mentioned in the tags were in a romantic relationship when they hurt each other? No. Not at all. Therefore, they're not a toxic couple.
Secondly, even if they were in a romantic relationship (like Catradora/Reylo), see when they become a couple. Catra and Adora, for example, only became girlfriends after Catra's redemption and after she apologized. And after they kissed, we don't see Catra/Adora being toxic/abusive towards each other. Reylo also didn't become canon until the third movie, and we don't see Kylo Ren being toxic/abusive towards Rey. Actually, we see him saving her life willingly, and not to manipulate her. He saved her life because he loved her. So calling Catradora/Reylo toxic/abusive is also wrong.
Third, people who criticize us for shipping them, and who call the ship abusive, do you even know how the "enemies/rivals-to-lovers" trope works???? Because the purpose of an enemies-to-lovers ship is one character changing from "I want to kill you" to "I love you", and changing from hurt their enemy to protect their partner. A lot of the ships I mentioned in the tags were enemies when they hurt each other. And like I said in a previous post, you're not supposed to treat your enemy/rival nicely, you're not supposed to treat them like a friend or a lover. You're supposed to treat them like someone you hate. Like someone you want to see destroyed. And if you don't understand the thing called "character development", it's not our fault.
"Bakugo and Deku weren't enemies when Bakugo hurt Deku". Yeah, I know. They weren't enemies. But they weren't people who liked each other neither, right? No matter what you say, they weren't exactly in good terms. And no matter how many times you say it's abusive, the only way "Bakudeku" can be abusive is if they were in a relationship in school, when Bakugo was bullying him. Now that would be a toxic relationship. But Bakudeku being toxic after Bakugo's development (because yes, he had development, and if you deny it you didn't understand his character at all) and after Bakugo's apology is bullshit.
So people, before you call one of these ships "toxic" think about it. Because these ships aren't toxic. You know what's a toxic ship? Joker x Harley Quinn. That's an actual toxic couple. Not Catradora, nor Zutara, nor Zukka, nor Jetko, nor any ship mentioned in the tags. The only way they can be "toxic" is if the writers of the show decided to make them be together and decided to make them abusive, or if a writer of a fic made it a toxic ship.
And even if they were a toxic ship in the canon (what they definitely aren't), you have no right to call people "abuse apologists" or things like that. You don't know them, and liking a toxic/abusive relationship doesn't define what they support/they're against in real life.
Hey, sorry to bother you but, I just wanted to say that I LOVE you and your art! It’s so beautiful! I would love to see more Drarry art by you, if it’s not too much of a bother, I really like the way you draw Draco. Ofc if you don’t want to, you don’t have to, I just thought it would be nice. If my request, in some way, made you uncomfortable or uneasy, then I owe you my deepest apologies, it’s was never my intention to hurt you in anyway possible. Again, sorry for bothering and I love you, your art is so beautiful and inspirational, don’t let anyone tell you otherwise, take care love 😘❤️
ohhh you are so sweet thank you so much for liking my art!! you have nothing to apologize for my friend, if anything i should for making you wait for a response
you seem so kind and sweet… so i hate to break that i’m not the biggest fan of draco……….
since reading the books, he’s become one of my least liked characters, but it wasn’t always like this ! when i was movie watcher (so literally up until i’d say december 2023), i liked him quite a bit! during this time drarry was also one of my favourite ships, definitely my favourite harry ship! i liked them so much as a ship actually that i’ve outlined a whole fic of them post-war that i still hope to finish this year!
for you, i’ll share my one (1) page of draco exploration and some doodles of scenes from the aforementioned fic
i mean look at these twinks (affectionate)
enjoy!
can anyone recommend me a drarry fic where harrry’s in love and draco’s like “wtf is this? i thought u hated me?” but the whole time harry thought they were dating and just taking things slow (pref dmhp but hpdm is ok too if its not weird*)
Harry is so cute. He was just a little boy.
UNPOPULAR OPINION :
Draco Malfoy is perhaps the darkest and shadiest character to feature in the Harry Potter books after Severus Snape. Honestly, Draco is not likeable throughout the course of the seven books because of his unfair meanness and prejudiced notions against the golden trio.
But it is not unreasonable. I think if no one remembers, Harry and Draco's animosity began with the fact that Draco insulted Ron on their first meeting at Hogwarts.
Now why did he do that?! Let's get to that point.
We all can see that Lucius Malfoy is an absolute insensitive, cold monster. He is blinded by his prejudices against the mud bloods and muggles. He is an ego maniac, who couldn't care less about his son's feelings. He had always fed Draco what is good or bad according to his judgement. Arthur Weasley and Lucius work in the ministry and its obvious how open minded Arthur is and how much interested he is in the muggles, which is entirely opposite for Lucius. The hatred was passed on to Draco through Lucius. Honestly I believe Draco is more jealous of Ron, and the Weasleys than he actually hates them. Everyone knows how accepting and loving the Weasleys are. Living in a cold environment as such as the Malfoy manor, with talks of the Dark Lord and death and genocide...., a child seeks love and warmth in a home. Time from his family. Care and affection. And he was completely ignored and kind of isolated from those pleasures because of his father and his queer obsession with propriety. Thus his unbound hatred for the Weasleys.
Draco knew that his father likes being friends with influential people, thus he knew being friends with Harry Potter would earn him some appreciation in the least, if not love. But with his quick negative remark about Ron and his family lost him Harry's friendship. Thus with every mistake Draco just grew bitter and bitter until the very end. He wanted to be better than Harry Potter. He wanted to be more popular than him. He wanted to be as loved as Ron Weasley was by his family. He wanted a true friend who cares for him like Hermoine Granger does for Harry and Ron, and not have blind followers like Crabbe and Goyle from familial obligations. He wanted to Slytherin to win the house cup and gain genuine favor from the teachers. He wanted some one to care for him like Hagrid. He wanted his father to care about him and his opinions and feelings. He wanted a normal life with happiness. But no. He didn't, he just lost and lost and lost. And that made him bitter and more envious and loathsome.
He never wanted the life that he had to live. He was afraid of the Dark Lord.
Draco was mean and selfish but not evil. His selfishness triggers his cruelty and coldness but he is not evil. He didn't wish to kill Dumbledore and he even couldn't see people dying. He was positively disturbed when a person was killed infront of him at the Malfoy manor. He didn't wish Harry or his friends to die, because however much he hated them, or pretended that he was superior to them, they were his friends. He was genuinely scared for them. He didn't wish more people to die. So he pretended that he didn't recognize Harry.
Later on he went to retrieve the cup and fight against them, but that is because he had no choice.
Draco Malfoy didn't have a choice.
Draco has done a lot of bad and unforgivable things but in no way he deserves to die. Some people say that "Draco Malfoy should have died" and stuff but I think that is absolutely unnecessary. I believe he got his chance at redemption and peace. He had to live on, the rest of his life, with trauma, regret and shame. That was both his punishment and relief. No more expectations and the Dark Lord. Just him and some space to breathe and live life like a normal wizard with a family to care for.
But because he was not evil, he could slowly revive from his bitterness. It was clearly mentioned that he had acknowledged Harry and the other's presence while having his son board the Hogwarts Express. He felt ashamed so he couldn't approach, but he was thankful so he did acknowledge them.
He is definitely a person who's character got destroyed purely due to the circumstances and his poor environment, like that of Tom Riddle Jr's, but he should not be blindly hated. He is a dark character and in no way should he be mistaken to be soft and kind and genuine. He is arrogant, mean and rude, but that doesn't make him cruel. Atleast not as much as certain people claim him to be. I am not a Draco Malfoy fan, but I always judge a character's both good and bad and I can appreciate the good. Recently I read a lot of hate comments which were absolutely unnecessary. He has done many many unforgivable things and he has recieved his punishment as well. He would never be able to look up with the other wizards and witches ever. But,
Draco deserves to be loved. Draco deserves happiness and peace.
Hopefully in an another alternate universe, Harry would find out why Draco is so mean. Would eventually fight with him then punch the truth out of him, help him cry, tell him that it is ok you be vulnerable and that no one is pitying him and that he would love to be friends with him if he would be nice to Ron and then would be friends with him. Draco would apologize to Ron. Hermoine will forgive. Ron will take time but eventually they will develop a wierd, awkward but cute bromance and the others soon will accept him. Okay, now i am rambling.....you can leave...ulp...
*sighs in fangirl*
PS : Atleast for the poor childhood he had there must be a proper compensation and recovery, because tht was the only thing which was not in his control. We all have a choice, always, but that was something where he genuinely could do nothing. Thus that's where my empathy arises for him.
Drarry antis really suck. I’m a Drarry, Romione and Linny shipper whose fic was spammed with so many negative comments from a Drarry anti on ao3 that I actually gave up deleting the comments on my fic. Eventually ao3 moderators deleted the comments but damn!
I agree, and it’s so much more upsetting because of the fact that most Drarry shippers I’ve met are so nice and respectful, especially to Ginny (tho some Drarry shippers are 🤢🤢). :(
I’m so sorry you went through that, anon. Those gits really suck, I hope things have gotten better for you. I genuinely don’t know why people take the time out of their day to comment these kind of things, it’s not like it’s gonna do anything, negativity of any kind is just 😐🙁 And honestly??? All it does is waste their time and literally just make me love whatever they’re bashing a million times more lmao. And I’m glad the ao3 moderators have deleted them, at least there’s a bright side.
I’m a Drarry, Romione and Linny shipper
Ah, an anon of culture!
Again, I’m sorry you went through that and I hope it never happens again. Have a great day! <3
I’m feeling bored and I have a genuine question for the following people who ship:
Dramione
Bellamione
Snily
Drarry
Wolfstar (this one I don’t hate as much as the others they’re just not my cup of tea)
Snape+any students
Narcissa + Snape
Why do you guys like them together?
This is not to be shady, I already know why I don’t like them but I’m willing to hear why others do because I want to know and I like hearing other people’s POV. I think I have a few guesses to why some ships are popular but I want to hear what the people who ship them have to say. Also when I talk about these ships I mean the ships have characters acting accordingly to canon. I don’t mean some OC with abs and a suave demeanor that just so happens to be named Snape or Fanon Draco that exhibits personality traits that Draco has never shown in the books, I mean if you like Canon Draco and Canon Hermione together why? Or why do you think canon Remus and canon Sirius are cute together?
I’m putting this in the “pro-xyz” tags not to annoy anyone but just so fans of the ships/characters can answer.