#queer discussion

[queer-confessions-offical]

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[ichliebemeinkissen]

Do we have a word for the denial of femininity/girlhood/similar for transfeminine+ people? And/or the forceful masculinization of them?

Transdefeminization is the best I can imagine for a word like that, or maybe transmalmasculinization. which is just the worst word ever.

blehhhh!! i wish for words!! all the words!

the denial of your gender & presentation & similar & the forceful attribution of your presumable "orginal" one and the one society tries to force you to conform to are both things that all trans people face in some way - and I think it'd be nice to have words to help discuss it.

[t-s-a-d-a]

transandrophobia as a word & antisemetism as a word suffer the same issue where everyone understands what it means,

but rather live in this false reality in which we pretend we don't know what it means and act like it's really hard to understand & grasp

& the ONLY POSSIBLE way to understand it is by dissecting the word & trying to guess what it means in the worst faith way possible to really show how stupid minorities are for ever trying to talk about their issues!

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hyperbolic example: "tr ans and ro ph obia" ? none of of those thing make sense seperately! so obviously you are hysterical and absurd😎

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this is why you don't argue linguistics, kid, it never works unless everyone agrees to play stupid.

(more in depth & poorly written talkings under the cut)

to speak more in depth:

People pretend like the only logical way to understand "transandrophobia" as a word is to HAVE to believe that it means "man" is an oppressed axis under the patriarchy.

Even though since it's birth this has never been a true misunderstanding anyone's organically had & people use it entirely differently to speak about issues that have been spoken about for years, just now under a unifying name for the discussion.

You MUST suspend your ability to think like a normal person & purposefully seek out the worst way something can be understood to reach the conclusion they are trying to say is the natural one, and from here you are supposed to believe that this makes the word invalid, lest you agree with the ascribed false definition.

This is illogical & should be rejected immediately. Don't even argue back, just say "come back when you're ready to not play dumb". (for your own health, truly..)

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And antisemitism? Very similar things happen.

People go "well, if you pick it apart.." and then jump through hoops to try to discredit the word.

Ignore how "semetic" refers to a LANGUAGE GROUP, only languages can be semetic, not people.

Ignore how the word was coined to racialize jews.

Ignore the history & how everyone understands what this word means when it's said.

Just like you must ignore the "trans" in transandrophobia. Just like you must ignore how the only time masculinity & manhood is rewarded is when we are talking about patriarical manhood & conformity.

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And just like how they want you to ignore that none of this matters, they too know what it means, they simply want to derail your conversations and cause doubt in the minds of others for how reliable you are to talk about your own oppression.

They want to use words to silence you & take away the terms thay help empower you to talk about your issues. Don't let them.

[lgbtranswoman]

Referencing old queer discourse but I'm not arguing anything

I know I post a lot about queer discourse but goddamn, but back in around 2014 I remember the big thing I kept seeing was the Dual/Split Attraction Model where people were saying that your romantic and sexual attraction can't be seperate/different and I was so confused cause like... What about Ace people that liked sex? That seemed like smoking gun evidence IMO

It was all just so confusing because it felt like a "Wait why wouldn't this be the case?" When I was first realizing I was queer

Wait I'm just now realizing this, is that why Ace discourse was so big right after that era of the internet?

[andyundercover7]

This is to queer people of any age who have seen the posts accusing others of fetishizing gay people because they engage with queer media: you are not a fetishist or a predator

I was 14 once and reading things definitely too mature for me which is what inspired this post so this goes out to the teenagers doing the same, I see you, and I have to put this here: as a legal adult I advise against engaging with mature content before the age of 18. --I know you're going to do it anyway though so please, please be mindful about what you are consuming.

I can not imagine what it would have done to my perception of myself and others as a young queer girl if people all around me on the internet were calling others creeps for enjoying the same media I did.

If you were to be fetishizing queer media, you would ONLY be engaging with it for sexual gratification. Notice how I said only. Obviously romantic media is going to have portrayals of sexual activities or show people that are attractive. And of course that would probably arouse you in some way unless youre asexual (or otherwise have no interest in sex). If the only reason you engage with queer media at all, ever, is to gain sexual gratification from it, that is a fetish. But watching heated rivalry and thinking the sex scenes are hot or reading a fanfic and getting turned on by a sex scene IS NOT WRONG.

People would never, and are not, accusing straight people of being predators for engaging with mature heterosexual media so why queer people?

Well, from my point of view, it's mainly because queer people have been and still are hypersexualized by the public and even within. Queer people are typically thought of as a sexuality before a human, for example the "how do you even..." type of questions. Queer spaces are also sacred and very few so there is a feeling of protectiveness from people within these spaces. However, I think we need to be mindful of how we use and direct words and accusations.

Holy shit it pisses me off so much that people are so quick to jump to the strongest, most harmful conclusions on the internet without proper research, thinking, and understanding. Almost everything posted on the internet is phrased definitively, which leads to repeated statements with little to no actual discussion.

On that note, feel completely free to let me know if you feel differently or have another view point on this matter. I love thoughtful discussion and I don't wish to argue.

As a queer person enjoying queer media, you are not wrong, you are not gross, you are not a predator, and you are not fetishist.

for good measure here are two definitions

[yuri-sandwich]

what do you do when ur unsure about exactly where you fall on the asexual spectrum bc of ur lack of experience + wanting to date + not being able to do flings to figure out ur sexual preferences bc of said asexual spectrum + fear of ‘failing’ partners bc of ur lack of experience and not knowing how much ur actually ok with + like mostly u just wanna fall in love

any elder gays got advice for me

[rainbowprisimatic]

Making a post about how people shouldn't discriminate against/wish death upon others specifically due to the genitalia that they were born with, and having people claim that me insulting those who do that stuff (me refering to those un-named people as "brainless cunts" for being exclusionary in queer spaces based on biological sex) is an attack on [cis] women specifically - when I never even specified or claimed that anywhere in my inital post, just proves that no one on this site can read and having empathy for their fellow humans is a foregin concept.

Like if you immediately assumed I was claiming that "[cis] women are evil and are the only ones who do that stuff and im talking about them specifically" in my post, then clearly you have a lot of issues and are the one who view women as evil by design, and just cant read more then 2 sentances back to back due to a tiktok attention-span - cuz i explain myself & the point of the post in the post itself. Lmao. My post was "Blanket Statement", I was referring to everyone who has ever claimed that specific assigned gender at birth people should be exterminated from existence. and that doing such a thing at all to any group is a shitty thing to do. I never singled out women specifically for being "the perpetrators"

If you think im wrong for that opinion, and are offended at being told to be nice to your fellow queers regardless of their agab, then you need to reevaluate yourself and your morals. Also, boo hoo - i called rude people a mean name because they are rude. Get over yourself <3