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I think the most unrealistic part about Saw traps is that the victims wake up fully aware and conscious.

Personally it would take me at least five minutes to even realize my surroundings and another five to comprehend the instructions

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NEVER put me in a Saw trap. I don't wanna discover anything new about myself. I know too much about her already and she's starting to freak me out

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THE SHOTGUN COLLAR…

(REBLOGS WILL HAVE ADD ONS)

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Supernatural x Saw: An Entirely Unnecessary Analysis

(By Vincent Perseus Applepi, the guy who likes these two things quite a lot and will use any excuse to combine them)

I am aware my target audience for this is pretty much me and me alone, but that’s what makes these things fun, no? Both franchises are big enough that I don’t think I need to preface with any explanation, so I’ll stick with only the context necessary for my purposes. I will try my best to keep this relatively short, but no promises.

Saw, of course, operates on an interesting system when it comes to morality and the purpose of the famous traps. While Jigsaw’s logic is definitely incredibly flawed, that is a conversation for another day, and the TL;DR is that his aim is to make people who don’t value their own (or other’s) lives see the error of their ways and ultimately become better people with a new outlook should they escape the trap—which is customized personally for each victim to match the lesson John is trying to teach them.

There’s no shortage of this angle in Supernatural, either, though not quite as specific. One of the major themes (in my interpretation, at least) is redemption, forgiveness, and the value of life and connection. Oftentimes characters go through horrific situations and come out the other side…well, not ALWAYS better for it, but I think you get the point. So that, to me, is where it gets interesting.

I could probably attempt to come up with an entirely new trap or game for each character (which I absolutely will do if anyone wants me to), but for simplicity’s sake, I’ll just go with the canon ones and match their symbolism the best I can to each Team Free Will character and my reasonings for why.

Sam and Dean are actually quite similar, but we’ll start with Dean. I think the biggest problem John “Jigsaw” Kramer would have with him is the constant self sacrificing, which I believe he would interpret (not entirely incorrectly) as recklessness and borderline suicidality. We know John (for whatever reason) seems to have a…particular problem with self-destructive behavior (think the razor wire maze, Amanda, David, ect) and usually puts these individuals in solitary traps. With Dean, since his motivation to fight comes from external sources (family, friends), I think his trap would have to be one where he must fight to live for himself as much as jigsaw could manage. I think, as well, it would have to be a situation where he must hurt someone else. Now, we know Dean isn’t exactly the best at the whole “empathy” thing, but I feel that self-mutilation would be infinitely easier than harming or killing someone entirely innocent. Thus, a choice-based game such as the shotgun carousel or the original reverse bear trap would be best. I’m leaning towards the latter, considering I think Dean would be able to come up with some reason why everyone on the carousel should die or something. Anyway, the reverse bear trap clearly worked for Amanda (for a while) and, speaking of, I could also see her trial working for Dean as well. The LOGISTICS of this are way more dubious considering it hinges on her relationship with Jigsaw himself which I cannot see Dean ever having. I bring it up because the core theme is forgiveness. Which Dean struggles with a lot, especially when it comes to his family. I can see him truly grappling with trust and letting things go, much more than the bear trap. For me, I guess those two are tied and I’ll let the people who know Dean better than me decide which one they think is better, I suppose.

Sam, on the other hand, while sharing a lot of the same qualities, tends to turn it inward. Dean hates himself, too, but I don’t believe he struggles with the same deep sense of guilt and isolation that Sam does. Dean sees himself as a weapon, whereas Sam sees himself as some unholy monster that is fundamentally unworthy and incapable of anything but death and destruction (yikes. Also relatable). I think Sam, unlike Dean, is a good candidate for a game. Or perhaps even one of the apprentice recruitment ones. I don’t believe Jigsaw would punish him for his self hatred, but rather the events that transpired because of it. I think John would see it more as “this is clouding your judgement and I see that you want to be a good person but you are blind to your mistakes and are easily persuaded”. Or something like that.

Anyway, the point is, Dean’s motivations are (typically) outward, and he (typically) deals with complex emotions in a very confrontational manner, Sam’s motivations are mostly inward—his own morality and sense of duty, his love for his fan and friends, the satisfaction he feels after completing a hunt—and he deals with his emotions in a very closed off sort of way (often by projecting them onto other people or just convincing himself he’s not feeling them or putting confrontation off until it eventually blows up).

Continuing this streak of “Amanda’s games work really well for the Winchesters”, the detox chair! Not only is this relevant because of the, well, detox angle and the whole drug demon blood addiction, it ALSO puts Sam in a position where he must put his full and complete trust in another person—entirely helpless. Going off that, the blind hangman trap form Saw 3D. I can see Sam in both positions, either—again—having to put his life entirely in someone else’s hands and COMPLETELY give up control in order to live, which is something Sam isn’t exactly known for doing, or conversely, in Bobby’s position. Bobby’s whole trial included people he knew and lied to or had helped him in those lies (the conversation about ESPECIALLY that last one can wait because that’s not the point here). And while Sam isn’t the type to lie for fame and money, he IS the type to lie if he thought it was the right thing to do. In Bobby’s position, he has full control over his colleagues’ lives, but…well, I don’t think that was exactly a blessing, either. The point was to prove he wasn’t invincible and all-powerful. The steam maze also accomplishes this same sort of thing no matter which position he’s in. And the gallows with the whole “picking who lives and dies” thing.

But most of all, I think Jeff’s trial might work best. It’s all about grief and desperation and each stage was a means to FORCE Jeff (or in this case, Sam) to confront the people involved in the death of his son and either let them die horribly or actively save the people he blamed for ruining his life. Instead of a son it’s Jess or even Eileen and at the end of the trial there lies a dying Yellow-Eyes he must forgive. Move on, let it go. And I don’t know if Sam “I shot god” Winchester wouldn’t bury that bullet in the enemy’s skull without a moment’s hesitation. If Dean is running Amanda’s test here, I think it might end exactly like the movie lol.

And now on to Castiel. Funny enough, the first things to come to mind are the peephole from Saw 2 and the leg wires from Saw 3D. These are (technically) easily avoidable traps that punish blatant disobedience and rebellion. These name of the game is “follow the rules”, which Cas is downright notorious for being bad at. “Don’t use the key on this door”, get shot in the head if you do. “This isn’t an exit” and cut your leg off if you try. I think where Sam and Dean’s traps are most likely about grief and self distinction, Castiel’s would be about being trapped and rebellion. Besides those more “failsafe” (for lack of a better word) traps, I could see the razor box (self-sacrifice, desperation, being unable to escape) or, irony 100% intended, the angel trap. The latter of which in particular feels right. One, “angel” is in the name, two, it’s inescapable and rigged from the start, and three, the end result is being quite literally ripped open and suspended for all the world to see.

However, I can also see him being in either the wire saw trap from Saw 10 and having to mutilate himself to atone for all the angels he killed (not the same thing as being a scam artist but we’re just gonna roll with it) or the classroom trap. Quite literally ripping and tearing through his own flesh for freedom and rebirth. The self-mutilation ones really work for Cas more than the brothers, in my opinion.

TL;DR, I think my final verdict is as follows:

Dean —> Reverse Bear Trap (Saw 0.5, 1)

Sam —> Jeff’s Trial (Saw 3, 4, 5, 6)

Castiel —> Angel Trap (Saw 3, 4, Jigsaw)

With, of course, plenty of room for others. I think I might do this again with other characters and/or create (my) perfect traps for each of them. I’d love to hear anyone else’s thoughts on this!! And thank you @moonprismpower456 for the idea to do this, and thank you anyone who took the time to read all my yap.