#sburb session analysis

[sburbglitchfaqblog]

It's 4/13, just about 7 years after I started this blog. So much has happened since then. If anyone remembers the SBURB Glitch FAQ and still wants help with their sessions...ask away.

The Law is In.

-eM

[techtakesoff]

hey, i hope you have a nice day. this might be a bit of an odd ask, so if this is not something you know well or not inclined to answer, i do apologize.

what are the risks if a game session doesnt have an even number of players? say, for example, seven or three. and none of them are dual dreamers. is it really a big deal to have everyone be even? speaking of dual dreamers, what makes a player leans both instead of just prospit and derse?

anyway, thats that. thanks again for opening your askbox. i had a hard time researching things on my own and its rare to find active classpecting blogs nowadays.

Hello anonymous, thank you for the question. As far as I can tell, there is nothing that would prevent a session with an odd number of players from working.

Technically, Caliborn's session had an odd number, seeing as he was its only player, even if it was meant to have two players. There might be some issues with ectobiology should your session be doomed for a scratch, but I don't see why there couldn't be three ectochildren from two alpha players, or why one of the players couldn't be an ectoclone of themselves.

That would actually make for quite the interesting plot hook. As for what makes a player eligible to be a dual dreamer, it's hard to say. The Captors are a special case in that their theme of duality seems to stem from their being Captors rather than anything having to do with Class or Aspect.

We've not seen another Doom player in canon proper, but Meulin seemed to be a strictly Derse dreamer just like Nepeta, so I don't see how being a Mage could be an affecting variable here. Overall I'd say it's a Sollux and Mituna only thing, though I'm sure there are scenarios where it could be possible under different circumstances.

Skaia and Sburb are mysterious makers, and what fate they have written for each session can be vastly different. If the plot demands for a dual dreamer, then it will have a dual dreamer.

[doomedheartgodtiers]

May i please have an analysis for a session with a bard of space, a muse of doom, a witch of mind, an heir of time, a prince of life, and a knight of rage that scratches into a session with a prince of space, a witch of doom, a knight of mind, a prince of time, an heir of life and a prince of time after the bard, muse, and witch die?

Thanks for being so patient, my dude!

Okay, so. This session seems very complicated. I will do my best to give you some valuable input, though! There’s nothing wrong with a challenge every now and again. >:3 So, both the Bard of Space and the Prince of Space are destructive Space players. I don’t think replacing the Bard with the Prince will change the dynamics too much, although I think it will increase the importance of the aspect of Space in your session. See, Bards make a mockery of their aspect, which therefore diminishes their importance. Princes directly destroy and destroy with their aspect. If your players weren’t on their game when it came to frog breeding before the scratch, they’ll have to give it extra attention after the scratch and ensure the new Space player can fill this gap. It’s probably for the best that the Muse doesn’t make it into the new session. A master class player could bring unbalance into your session, and inspiring Doom isn’t exactly what you’d want in a successful session. The Witch of Doom in the scratched session could bend the rules and hopefully undo any damage the unrealized Muse had wrought on your game session already. They make a fine replacement of a Doom player. The Witch of Mind could’ve been important in the first session as they could bend the rules of logic and preparation to make the Bard of Space’s job easier. As they died alongside the Bard, though, I think the Knight of Mind is a sufficient replacement for the Scratched session. The Knight could protect the other players as they assimilated into their new roles in the scratched session. The Heir and Prince of Time would work very well in tandem. The Heir starts with a burdensome amount of their aspect, and the Prince can help alleviate that burden. I think they’d make a fine team. The Heir and Prince of Life have a similar dynamic. I think it’s worth mentioning that in the first session there’d likely be an excess of Time and a lack of Life that would only be brought into equilibrium through the scratch. Finally, the Knight of Rage could be an essential asset to the team. They could bring all they learned from the first session into the second one. Their better grasp on protecting negative emotions (and presumably responding to them correctly) could help alleviate tension and keep morale high in the scratched session. Overall, despite all the stress of a scratched session, I think this would be a pretty successful one! Best of luck, doomy-stuff

[somethingstuckanalysis-blog]

so this is long but *inhale* Prince of mind, Knight of heart, Seer of space, Maid of void, Theif of rage, Page of doom, Rogue of life, Mage of time, Sylph of hope, Heir of blood and Witch of light. (Soz ;))) )

Firstly, I’m gonna get this out of the way and mention that the presence of the Knight of Heart means that the session will lack emotion, self, and soul. Examples to help you visualize - the main character of an anime (brightly colored) among dully colored background characters, or an emotional character in the midst of a bunch of Dirk Striders. Their goal is to take what emotion there is in the session and use it to help the session grow and progress.

The space and time players are both “understanding” classes, which is good because this means that they will be useful for success in the session. The Seer actively seeks for information about the space aspect, while the Mage just knows things about time through experience. They are probably like walking encyclopedias of their aspect, especially the Mage. Since the seer can also see space, they can be like a live GPS as well and get around the medium easily. The seer can also probably see what a healthy Genesis Frog looks like, and therefore frog breeding will be easier. With the Knight of Heart helping with this, chances of a healthy frog appear to be high.

The Sylph of Hope creates hope and belief in others, which makes them a great motivator for times when everyone seems to be feeling hopeless. Combined with the Knight’s ability to wield emotions and soul, they can probably give the team so emotional support and determination to keep going! The Thief of Rage as well, with their ability to steal rage from people, will be a good mediator for their team. I think I might have explained this before?

The Heir of Blood, with their ability to inherit/pass on relationships and bonds, is most definitely the leader. They’ll most likely be friends/will become friends with everyone, and since heirs are naturally protected by their aspect, they’ll be protected with these bonds (the power of friendship!!). I’d imagine that since they are quite literally the embodiment of their aspect, their disappearance may cause the team to fall apart.

The Maid of Void is gonna be a mysterious one - they’ll be like a ninja, keeping secrets, doing their work in the shadows. They may do these for the horrorterrors, as they are also strongly associated with the void. They’ll rely on others (possibly close others) to keep secrets for them until they learn to so themselves.

The Prince of Mind would start off emotional and narcissistic at first but will later become a great strategist as they wield mind and destroy enemies using it, or they can literally destroy people’s minds. Like, as in blowing heads up, or just finding breaking points in their mental composure. They’re the type of person that can mess with your head if you’re not careful. If they have healthy development, however, they can be a useful asset to the team!

As the Rogue of Life steals and redistributes life to their teammates, they’ll be a great healer by taking the life of enemies and healing their friends. Pretty simple.

The Page of Doom would start off as someone who is emotionally conflicted at first, but afterward will become a strong enforcer of rules. They’ll be a great destructive force on the Battlefield.

And lastly, the Witch of Light. This is kind of a dangerous one if they’re turned to the wrong side, as the Witch of Light would be able to manipulate knowledge, luck, and quite literally light itself. So… think Vriska, but she can manipulate the luck of others as well. The Witch of Light can make themselves the center of attention, distracting either their allies or enemies, possibly adding the occasional light trick/mirage here and there. They’re definitely a master trickster (as in the kind that tricks people), and depending on who they’re aligned with they can be incredibly dangerous or beneficial.

So… with this in mind, I think your chances of winning are high. Of course, you’ll have to keep watch for the potentially dangerous classpects such as the Witch or the Prince, but if you keep them on the right side and promote healthy development then you should be fine! I hope this helps!

~MoT

[techtakesoff]

If you're still doing the big session analysis thing: my friends all collectively got into Homestuck because of me and we were wondering if our classpects together could make for a survivable session cuz it's...a funny one. We have a Maid of Time, Witch of Rage, Witch of Breath, Maid of Hope, Sylph of Mind, Witch of Doom, Knight of Void and Knight of Space

You. You have THREE Witches. What. How. Why. This'll be fun.

Session Size

Maid of Time, Witch of Rage, Witch of Breath, Maid of Hope, Sylph of Mind, Witch of Doom, Knight of Void, and Knight of Space. 8 players.

There is so much wrong here. The only player not immediately in danger of dying right off the bat is the Sylph of Mind.

Three Witches, two Maids, and two Knights. Holy shit, bro.

Space/Time Players

Maid of Time and Knight of Space. Good choices.

In case of a Scratch?

The Maid of Time shouldn't have too much trouble with this, but they'll be trying to do something that's pretty much opposite of what they usually do with Time.

Genesis Frog Breeding

Knight of Space is capable on their own, but the Witch of Doom (to avert doom) and the Maid of Time (if there's a time crunch) should work well with them.

How about the situation on The Battlefield?

Here we go.

Offense: Defense: Knight of Void, Knight of Space, Witch of Doom, Witch of Breath, Witch of Rage Support: Sylph of Mind, Maid of Hope, Maid of Time

There is. There is so much going on here.

You don't have an offense. But I don't think this will be an issue with the amount of Witches you have.

For defense, the Knight of Void is a pretty good choice for Knight #1. While the whole 'exploiting nothing' sounds incredibly underwhelming, that's the whole point of the Void class. They'll be the one running around behind the scenes exploiting secrets. They exploit the lack of material, which makes them unstoppable. They'll be popping up in random places, jeering. As for the Knight of Space, they'll be ripping holes in Space itself to trip others up or get people around, and they have the unique ability to make Anything a weapon. The Witch of Doom manipulates Doom. They can't make people come back from the dead, but they can either avert their death entirely or make them die immediately. The Witch of Breath can restrict literal airflow, choking someone out, or controlling how much freedom they have. The Witch of Rage can make someone completely pacified, or send them into an incredibly blinding rage. The three of them together is one powerful combination.

As for support, the Sylph of Mind can heal any damage done to someone's psyche from either friendly fire or something else. They on their own are not someone to fuck with. The Maid of Hope creates Hope, which means that your team will always have some form of Hope that they can achieve whatever. The Maid of Time will probably primarily run around in the background, fixing the timeline from being doomed, averting paradoxes, etc.

Relationships

Your Witches are a problem. Powerful people with morals? Shit, bro. Just keep an eye on them and beat the fuck out of them if they decide to do anything super outlandish.

Pros:

Your Witches can fill in for offensive players.

This session is so incredibly powerful.

This is definitely beatable.

Cons:

All but 1 of your players can die early because of overlapping class.

3 Witches in one place doesn't sound like they'd mesh well.

Chance at success?

This is either going to go awesomely or fail spectacularly, and I'm not sure which I'd like to see more. Hilarious. Good luck.

[techtakesoff]

hi!! i hope u will not mind but can i have a session analysis with a witch of void, thief of heart, knight of hope, mage of breath, seer of life, heir of time, maid of mind, prince of doom, page of light & rogue of space?

Yes.

Session Size

Witch of Void, Thief of Heart, Knight of Hope, Mage of Breath, Seer of Life, Heir of Time, Maid of Mind, Prince of Doom, Page of Light, Rogue of Space. Decent 10 player session, bro.

Space/Time Players

Heir of Time and Rogue of Space. Pretty good.

In case of a Scratch?

The Heir of Time can literally become Time, so whether or not they can destroy something that is essentially them is a wildcard of a question.

Genesis Frog Breeding

The Rogue of Space, unlike a Thief of Space, would probably struggle less with frog breeding, because they're stealing for others. Not just that, but you also have a Knight of Hope and Seer of Life in your session, so those two players would probably help out with that part as well.

How about the situation on The Battlefield?

Offense: Thief of Heart, Prince of Doom Defense: Witch of Void, Heir of Time, Knight of Hope Support: Maid of Mind, Mage of Breath, Seer of Life, Page of Light, Rogue of Space.

To start off our offensive, we have the Thief of Heart, someone who steals emotions. Someone who can render someone a blank slate, if they wanted to. That's scary. The Prince of Doom, on the other hand, is one of the more strange Prince classpects, in the sense that they destroy Doom. That has a double meaning connotation, and it could mean that they either destroy something into the dirt or restore it into pristine condition, destroying the Doom either way.

As for your defense, we begin with the Witch of Void. The Witch of Void is an excellent liar, as well as a great secret-keeper. Not just this, but they know all of the secrets, too. It's impossible to keep anything from them. The Heir of Time, meanwhile, can literally become Time, so that means that they have a ton of control over the timeline, it bends to their will. And finally, the Knight of Hope. The Knight of Hope, no matter the situation, can use their abilities as long as SOMEONE has Hope within them. Even if it's just a little. They can make or break a session, in the most desparate of times.

For your support, we begin with the Maid of Mind. Someone who creates and inspires ideas in others. Someone who encourages people to speak their mind, and needs this encouragement, too. Good. Then, the Mage of Breath. They strike me as a master escape artist, knowing everything and anything about getting people out of sticky situations. The Seer of Life, meanwhile, sees Life. They know when it happens, and this is good, especially for frog breeding. The Page of Light starts off slow, coming basically from the dirt, but over time, they become the brains of the session, knowing everything, and anything. Finally, the Rogue of Space. The Rogue of Space is someone who steals Space for others, meaning that they can take physical objects that are already existent and give it to an ally or friend, if they want.

Relationships

The Thief of Heart is someone who steals emotions and sense of self, and while Thieves usually don't steal out of genuine maliciousness, the Thief of Heart is dangerous in that aspect because if they accidentally destroy someone's sense of emotions, they'll make the person completely apathetic. Fortunately, to quell any fears that the Thief might have of this, you have several players who can counteract or stop it from happening.

Pros:

Player advantage.

Somewhat balanced O/D/S.

Very good player lineup.

Cons:

Emotionally charged to all hell.

If one player dies, the rest of them will be dragged down with that.

Chance at success?

Very good. Just watch your players to make sure they don't kill each other.

[techtakesoff]

What would a session look like with a

A maid of breath and a heir of life

A knight of heart and a prince of time

A witch of hope and a page of space

And a rogue of light and a seer of void

(This is just the alpha and beta kid but they swapped classes)

Okay, this is one of the sessions that has particularly interested me. Let's see.

Session Size

Maid of Breath, Heir of Life, Knight of Heart, Prince of Time, Witch of Hope, Page of Space, Rogue of Light, Seer of Void

Eight players, no repeats. Nice.

Space/Time Players

Prince of Time and Page of Space. Uh oh.

While it's not as bad as if it was a Thief and a Page, having these two together could cause some problems especially considering that these two are your Time and Space players.

In case of a Scratch?

Prince of Time destroys time. Bam, no problems here.

Genesis Frog Breeding

Page of Space will likely need help from surrounding players. Don't have the Prince help, but have the Heir and the Witch help.

How about the situation on The Battlefield?

Offense: Prince of Time Defense: Heir of Life, Witch of Hope, Knight of Heart Support: Maid of Breath, Rogue of Light, Seer of Void, Page of Space

The Prince of Time as your only offensive player is very powerful in their own right, so they probably won't need anyone to be a backup offensive player. Their abilities range from being able to simply freeze someone in time to making them age until they're nothing but bones. So I think they'll be fine.

As for defense, you have a pretty structured Heir/Witch/Knight setup. The Heir of Life is an optimal defense player, being able to run around and give your players a boost of energy or health. The Witch of Hope basically runs the whole show, because they can hop everyone in your party on Hope, and when someone unwaveringly believes in something, to the point of extremity, not even death can stop them. As for the Knight of Heart, they can use their exploit with splinters to taunt enemies, and even rip their psyche apart on an emotional level, being able to tease them where it hurts.

Supportwise, the Maid of Breath is going to be great for support. They can get people out of sticky situations, create wind gusts to blast enemies away, and stay out of reach at the same time. The Rogue of Light and the Seer of Void are going to be the information gatherers. The Rogue can steal information, and the Seer can see the secrets that the enemies are holding, which means that all of their playing cards will be exposed with the combined power of these two. The Page of Space, on the other hand (given that they have the time to come to their abilities), will be an incredibly powerful chip to have. They, like the Knight, can rip holes in reality. Space bends to the will of the Page of Space, and therefore they might even be able to warp reality around people, messing with physics and giving your team an advantage while pushing your enemies into a corner.

Relationships

The only problem that I could see happening, and this is a big If, is if the Time and Space players don't get along. That could snowball into actual life and death, but otherwise I don't see issues. Just keep an eye on them and make sure neither of them die.

Pros:

Good session size.

Good O/D/S.

Witch of Hope could use their Hope powers to manipulate the session in your favor.

Cons:

Prince of Time could destroy the timeline if they're not careful.

Chance at success?

Very good! I think as long as everyone in the team works together, there will be minimal issues.

[techtakesoff]

can you analyze my session?

burgundy: thief of blood

bronze: bard of heart

gold: rogue of light

lime: mage of space

olive: maid of breath

jade: page of void

teal: prince of life

cerulean: seer of rage

indigo: heir of time

purple: sylph of mind

violet: witch of doom

fuchsia: knight of hope

Sure thing.

Session Size

12 players. The largest session. Nice.

Space/Time Players

An Heir of Time and a Mage of Space. Decent. Two players who are pretty understanding of their aspect.

In case of a Scratch?

As long as your Heir is in a more open mindset instead of one that is close minded, you should be fine.

Genesis Frog Breeding

Also good. Don't have your Life player help as they are a Prince, and it is their nature to destroy Life. Your Knight will be excellent help, as they are a Knight of Hope, and can exploit Hope to their advantage.

How about the situation on The Battlefield?

Offense: Thief of Blood, Bard of Heart, Prince of Life Defense: Knight of Hope, Heir of Time, Witch of Doom Support: Rogue of Light, Mage of Space, Maid of Breath, Page of Void, Seer of Rage, Sylph of Mind

Very good combination. Your offensive players are very powerful, because your Thief can sever bonds for their own benefit, your Bard allows destruction of their soul, and your Prince can destroy lives, literally.

It's the same with your defense. The Knight of Hope can exploit Hope in everyone's favor, your Witch can manipulate Doom to tip the scale in your favor, and your Heir literally manipulates Time itself.

Your support could be better, but you should definitely get your Seer and Rogue up, because a Seer of Rage is going to know all about Rage, and your Rogue of Light could possibly blind your enemies, and take their luck and redistribute to your team. Your Space player could use their abilities as a Mage to their advantags, and your three remainders fall somewhat in the middle.

Relationships

I actually talked about this with a friend of mine, but you have an incredibly interesting relationship network lined up for you. Bard of Heart? Prince of Life? Thief of Blood? That's three people, right there, who if left unmoderated, can completely destroy a session.

Your other players may be particularly distant. The two main healing classes, Maid and Sylph, both belong to players who are not entirely equipped with more emotional states. Mind (your Sylph's domain) is not an aspect which deals with emotion. Breath is all about freedom, and since your Breath player is a Maid, they create freedom. This really isn't going to help. Your Seer might be able to have the most in helping, but that's one person on three people, so they're likely to get overwhelmed.

Unless your three offensive players miraculously aren't aggresive and play entirely by their aspects (which is something that nearly every player does, though mostly subconsciously), you are going to end up with dead session members, or worse, your session will fail.

Pros:

You have a very strong team.

Fully realized, pretty much every single member on your team can cause serious damage.

Space and Time aspects are covered by two capable classes.

Cons:

Your three offensive players can be very dangerous to the rest of your team.

There is not enough support in your team to handle the Prince, Bard, and Thief safely.

Neither healing class is going to be much help with keeping your team together.

Chance at success?

You have a decent chance, but that's on paper. People are incredibly complicated, and because your team has powerful people capable of fucking their entire team up, I'd say a lot of this chance is negated by that. Unless your Thief, Bard, and Prince can come into themselves safely, I don't think it's going to work. Be careful.