#schumacherverse

[animusrox]

Batman & Robin (1997) dir. Joel Schumacher

[whipbogard]

RIP Mr Kilmer

Thank you for being my childhood Batman and also for being one of my fav Bruce Wayne ever <3

[dalekofchaos]

Favorite Batmobile design?

1940's Serials Batmobile

1960's Batmobile

Batman 1989/Returns

Batman Forever

Batman & Robin

The Tumbler/Batpod

Arkham Asylum/Arkham Knight

DCAU/Beyond

DCEU

Telltale

Titans

The Batman

Voting ended onOct 22, 2025

[cassiesanalien]

mr freeze fun fact: there's a story about why mr freeze was smoking a pack of cigars in Batman and Robin in his ice cream hideout building place. Bon Jovi, yes THE Bon Jovi, went on set of Batman and Robin. he brought and delivered Arnold Schwarzenegger a pack of his Cuban cigars. Arnold wanted him to be able to smoke them in the movie so he had the crew paint them white.

[splinterofpandora]

Knocking on heaven's door is pointless. Let's build our own kingdom. It will stand Forever.

It's from a different movie, but we're talking about the sequel. In a conversation with Bruce, Alfred said:

For what is Batman? If not an effort to master the chaos that sweeps our world. An attempt to control death, itself?

Batman is always fighting. But the ways of that battle are changing. Part of it has to do with the villains, who always surprise you with bizarre gadgets like a brain-controlling device on your TV. Most of the time, however, it's about the person themselves. And the time he spends with other people.

Do you remember how Batman 1989 ended? The woman in the car. Darkness. The Knight who guards his grounds. Keaton's not a villain, but he's not the hero of history either.

“Forever” ends with a very close episode. One difference. Bruce ends with Chase. But now he is happy. The beginning of Joel's dilogy is a bold statement. Batman doesn't have to give up his human part to work right.

The whole structure of the opening movie of the Schumacher's universe wants to give the viewer a chance to see Wayne as a man for whom the identity crisis is finally over.

Why am I talking about this in the context of the battle? If you've read Kilmer's biography or watched the wonderful autobiographical movie “Val,” you know the difficulties he had to face throughout his life. Problems within the family, finances, roles he can't get...

Moreover, Val was a difficult man. I know a lot of people loved working with him when things were great. But if something was bothering him on set...heh, Batman Forever for example. Clooney didn't just show up.

That's what the battle is. Confront the idea of our own infallibility with the ability to recognize weaknesses. Ability to achieve new things. Experimenting. DC has an idea:

As long as you fight, you live. You can't completely disappear from Reality as long as your mission continues. Val has been setting goals since he was a kid. He wanted to be an actor. An actor who can be anything. Singer

Or Moses

Funny cowboy-captain

Can you imagine this guy being held hostage of one role? No. Because he's always adapting. Even when the cancer took his voice, he kept playing. Made a documentary, came back to Top Gun. He had his own little house with paintings where other people studied.

It's how we overcome challenges. How we go from 1989 to 1995. We challenge ourselves. We find strength in our obsessions, but we don't let it rob us of our individuality.

We develop ourselves, and that's how we become better for others, because it makes our opportunities broader.

Val is only been Batman for one movie. Less than anyone not only in cinematic history, but live action globally. But he lived like the real Bruce. Fighting. Constantly looking for solutions. Helping others. Like Bruce, he could be unfair at times. Like with Joel for a while. Or allowed himself to make rude remarks about someone else. But he built his career with integrity. With endless auditions, craziest original approaches, by living in hero

His Bat-signal will burn forever. Because we will always need people like Val Kilmer.

Thank you, my first Light Knight!

[wanderingmind867]

I don't like some of the actors who starred in the Tim Burton and Joel Schumacher Batman movies, but I also really liked a lot of them. Danny DeVito, Tommy Lee Jones and Arnold Schwarzenegger were the three best actors in those films. Michelle Pfeiffer and Christopher Walken seem like they were pretty good in Batman Returns, though. So I think that's why Batman Returns is a film I remember very poorly (yet still view as the best of the four films, just for those three villian actors alone). Batman and Robin was pretty good too. I didn't like the Poison Ivy love pheromone stuff, but I do still fondly remember Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mister Freeze and Batgirl as Alfred's niece or whatever.

To be fair to Uma Thurman, though...she wasn't bad. The art team nailed her costume, and I do recall her being decently engaging (even if her origin and power set made me uncomfortable). Also, if you look at her wikipedia page, you see John Malkovich apparently once said there was a "haunted quality" to her or something. With a description like that, she was bound for supervillian acting. So she's fine. And although I found Jack Nicholson pretty dull in spots, he still has some small but funny parts. My bigger problems are with Jim Carrey.

Listen. I've seen Jim Carrey in things before. I've seen him, and I used to not mind him. But after seeing some of his dramatic works (and learning of his on and off relationship with vaccines), he's become a man who makes my skin crawl with his acting. He makes me feel very uncomfortable, even though that's not really something I think he means to do. But I can't look past it, and he makes things like Batman Forever or those Sonic movies feel weighed down with his presence. He scares me with his exaggeration. There's some people who get exaggerated humour done right. He isn't one of them for me. I don't want to acknowledge his career. I just don't.

I heard Robin Williams was once considered for The Riddler. I kind of wish that happened. I think Robin Williams would've done a lot better than Jim Carrey. That's all just personal opinion, but still. Without Jim Carrey, Batman Forever might stand up better. Because Tommy Lee Jones was pretty fun. I do remember that. And now I kind of wish he did more comedies, because I really did like his acting in that film as a kid.

[robingivesmemagic]

ok i forgot the batman and robin costumes in the schumacher movies do straight up just have boobs. like i remembered the nipples but i forgot how they very much. have boobs and other things

[alpacavampire]

Just some facts