#simon does entp

[pigepresident]

Could you give some fictional characters that are healthy ENTPs, ENTJs and ESFPs? and can you give examples of unhealthy INFJs and INFPs? thank you

Healthy ENTPs:

Henry Foss (Sanctuary)

Lucius Fox (Batman)

Fred Weasley (Harry Potter)

George Weasley (Harry Potter)

Jim Halpert (The Office)

Zero Moustafa (Grand Budapest Hotel)

Healthy ENTJs:

Peggy Carter (Marvel)

Raymond Holt (Brooklyn Nine-Nine)

Rocket Raccoon (Marvel)

Enjolras (Les Misérables)

Beatrice (Over the Garden Wall)

Nick Fury (Marvel)

Healthy ESFPs:

Aurora (Maleficent)

Greg (Over the Garden Wall)

Gina Linetti (Brooklyn Nine-Nine)

Nyota Uhura (Star Trek)

Legolas (Lord of the Rings)

Joker (Batman 1989)

Unhealthy INFJs:

The Beast (Over the Garden Wall)

Hannibal Lecter (NBC Hannibal)

Will Graham (All versions of the Lecter series)

Unhealthy INFPs:

Will Zimmerman (Sanctuary)

Marius Pontmercy (Les Misérables)

Gollum (Lord of the Rings)

Note: This is in terms of the functions. It’s got nothing to do with how good/bad the characters are, morally.

[pigepresident]

do you know where someone could watch Brooklyn 99 ? (i dont have hulu and its not on netflix) and im curious abt the character jake and how strong would u say his Fe and Si is and if he is a healthy ENTP?

I watched it here: http://watchseries.ag/serie/Brooklyn_Nine-Nine

I think his Si is underdeveloped. His Fe is probably in development, but still underdeveloped.

Healthy...Eh. He's not very healthy, no. He's not unhealthy, or manipulative, but I don't really think that he's a healthy ENTP.

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Can you type the characters from Brooklyn Nine Nine?

YES I love this show? There's several characters that are just so typically their types.

Jake Peralta - ENTPRaymond Holt - ENTJAmy Santiago - ISTJRosa Diaz - ISTPGina Linetti - ESFPTerry Jeffords - ESFJCharles Boyle - ISFJHitchcock - INTPScully - INFP

[pigepresident]

have any of you guys seen ant man yet? if any of you did, could you type the characters if possible?

Sorry it took so long! I just saw this a few hours ago.

Scott Lang - ENTPHank Pym - INTPHope van Dyne - INTJ [I'd take arguments for ENTJ]Darren Cross - ESTJPaxton - ISFJLuis - ESFPKurt - ISTPDave - ESTP

[pigepresident]

im an entp and i think i have strong Fe and i have an intj and one infj friend. when theres a fight between us, i usually dont engage if the other person will disrupt the peacefulness between us. my intj friend will jump on the other person and say what they are saying is illogical for these reasons and my infj friend will come in and say something about it doesnt fully matter about logic and more about the feelings of others. i was wondering if this sounds like something linked to mbti?

It could be, potentially. Your INTJ and INFJ friend certainly sound like theirs could be linked to MBTI, especially if the INTJ's comments on lack of logic are also related to lack of efficiency.

For yours, if your worry about disrupting the peacefulness is concerned in the reactions you three will ultimately be able to have with one another, it certainly could be, with your tertiary Fe.

Though I generally don't see ENTPs with Fe that developed, it's not by any means impossible.

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Do rationals tend to work badly with the same type compared to others? my closest friends are an entp, entj, intj and im an intp, we always talk about how hard it was to work with most others with the same type, my entp friend said she could get nothing done because she needed someone to ground her and the entj said whenever she met an entj with even a little conflict in morals, it would be awful for both. my intj friend just said everyone pisses him off so that might not be due to mbti.

Yes.

That's what I've noticed, at least. With INTJs and ENTJs, we generally aren't able to work through conflicting Fi, and if the other isn't willing to conform to what we want to do (Which, as a general rule, they do not), we can't work together. There needs to be more difference between NTJs -- Which is why I struggle to work with other INTJs, but I can work fine with Antoine. The flipping of our functions helps.

For INTPs and ENTPs, Ti and Fe will cause a problem. The Fe on the low end of the stack will mean they can't read the other (or don't care if they can), and it'll conflict with the logical end of the stack, especially if their logic systems don't match up.

Reaching one another can be difficult.

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im the entp anon, and holy shit i was talking about the ableist magazine post and it was so awful. also abt the tangent thing, i realized that too bc i do that all the time, i feel like i do it because i'll talk about something serious to someone but i realize they might be uncomfortable with that so at the end i add a completely unrelated question that is about a thing they like so they feel kind of comforted? if that makes sense, i don't speak for all Ne users though.

That magazine post was so, so bad. I'm thankful that the only time I saw it on my dash, I messaged the person I followed and they agreed with me and deleted their reblog.

Yea, I would be surprised if that's an ENTP thing (Tertiary Fe?).

I know the Ne-following-tangents thing is very common. ENFPs kind of follow their own logic (Tertiary Te) and ENTPs do what you're describing (Tertiary Fe).

So yea, that sounds like it makes sense.

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xntp person from before. i think my functions are pretty balanced even though sometimes i feel like my Fe is stronger than my Ti/Ne. i use my Ne to think of new possibilities, almost always geared to the future and i’m not sure exactly how i use my Ti. i know i do learn stuff from others and i organize it in my head rather than doing anything with it outwardly. with my Fe i base my actions on how people will feel to what i do and i feel like this is stronger than my Ti at times. with my Si, i think i don’t think of my personal past much because it already happened and i can’t do things differently with the past so i tend to ignore it. i feel like something weird is happening with my Ne though now though? i’m always thinking of new possibilities for the future and its fun but now i’m getting kind of overwhelmed or bored because i feel like i’ve explored all the ideas that are interesting to me? i feel like i have trouble living in the present a lot because all i think about it what could be and the future. i also need to be with people or else i get extremely bored/irritable but then if i’m with people too long, i get tired because i want to gather too much information from the outside world and it exhausts me and that makes me think my Ne might be messed up? sorry if this is unclear, thank you if can help?

It does sound like you're an ENTP who may be in the loop.

http://e-n-t-p.com/post/107322769506 There's some info on that here -- I don't recommend googling it or looking too far into the loop on tumblr because there's a very pervasive, very ableist post which eilamona so kindly brought to tumblr (Sarcasm, if you have trouble with it).

A lot of what you're describing doesn't necessarily sound like it's related to your Myers-Briggs type, but it could very easily be linked to depression.

To get out of the loop, you can google tips to enhance and develop your Ti.