Hi, I would like to know how to make a list of all the ships in a fandom on AO3. For example, I use the Tag Search on "Transformers - A Media Types", but it shows that Jetfire/Starscream is the most popular with 641, but it is actually only the 6th with 1074. Furthermore, it quickly drops to showing Relationship with a single digit when I know that there are dozens of Relationship with hundreds of Works! Why don't most Works appear? Do you know of a way to find All the ships of a fandom on AO3?
Hey! Sorry for the slow reply... I was traveling and then covid knocked me flat for several weeks. :P
So let's talk about AO3 Tag Search. In general, I'm very excited about recent improvements to this feature... There didn't used to be any way to find the top ships (or characters, or freeform/additional tags) across all of AO3. But now you can* by doing a tag search and sorting by uses (descending order):
*In practice, though you won't exactly get a trustworthy list of top tags (and, as you pointed out, in some cases tags may even be missing! we'll get to that later). You will get a list where the numbers are not correct, sometimes to a bizarre degree:
For example, when you click through on the Derek/Stiles tag, you find far fewer works using the tag (note that these are the public works -- if you're logged in, you see a somewhat higher number, but not as high as in the above screenshot):
I will be posting some stats soon that show different numbers (and a different order) for all of the above top ships. But why is there the discrepancy? Here are several guesses about why some works are wrong in Tag Search (and then I'll get to why some ships are missing and what to do about it):
TAG INFLATION #1: The above numbers probably include tags used in AO3 bookmarks, which increases some of the numbers quite a lot. [Evidence: if you search for top freeform tags, you get tags like "To Read" high on the list, and authors don't use those tags.]
TAG INFLATION #2: The above numbers seem to include draft works. [Evidence: I just tested this out by finding a rare tag with only one use... I created a draft of a new work using that same tag, and even though I didn't publish the work, Tag Search now showed 2 uses of the tag.]
TAG DEFLATION: The above numbers do NOT seem to take tag wrangling into account. Some AO3 tags have a lot of synonyms or subtags, but I think only exact uses of the tag get counted in the above list. [Evidence: I found at a tag with only one use according to tag search, but two works when I clicked the tag (Peter Gabriel/Mike Rutherford). I found that one of the works contained a synonym of the main tag ("Mike Rutherford/Peter Gabriel (Imagined)"). That would match with Tag Search only listing one of work for "Peter Gabriel/Mike Rutherford." And when I created a new draft work that used the main tag, it increase the count in Tag Search for "Peter Gabriel/Mike Rutherford" -- but when I created a new draft work that used the synonym tag, it did not.]
There may also be other factors affecting the overall Tag Search numbers.
Okay, so I suspect #3, tag deflation due to no tag wrangling, is (helping to?) create the unexpectedly low numbers you are seeing for ships like Jetfire/Starscream. I suspect that many people do not use the full canonical tag "Jetfire | Skyfire/Starscream (Transformers)", and those other uses don't get counted in Tag Search. The only way to address this issue is to click through on a tag returned by Tag Search and find out how many works the tag has once you look at its list of works.
But why aren't some ships showing up at all? That's a different question. Here, I suspect the answer again is related to tag wrangling. Every (?) canonical ship tag has at least one parent tag that is a fandom tag (as well as the relevant character tags). You can see the parent tags for Jetfire/Starscream on its tag page:
Skyfire (Transformers), Starscream (Transformers), The Transformers (Cartoon Generation One), The Transformers (IDW Generation One), Transformers (Bay Movies), Transformers (Dreamwave Generation One), Transformers (IDW 2019), Transformers (Marvel Generation One), Transformers - All Media Types, Transformers Animated (2007), Transformers: Armada, Transformers: Beast Wars (Cartoon), Transformers: Cybertron, Transformers: Cyberverse, Transformers: Energon, Transformers: Prime, Transformers: Shattered Glass, Transformers: The Headmasters, Transformers: War for Cybertron (Video Games)
Jetfire/Starscream has "Transformers - All Media Types" as a parent tag, and I suspect that is why it shows up in the Tag Search for that fandom. I would guess that some of the bigger Transformer ships do NOT have that broad fandom as a parent tag. Let's check the parent tags of Megatron/Optimus Prime:
Megatron (Transformers), Optimus Prime, The Transformers (IDW Generation One), Transformers (Bay Movies), Transformers Animated (2007), Transformers: Armada, Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001), Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015)
Megatron/Optimus Prime does NOT have "Transformers - All Media Types" as a parent tag. I suspect that's why it didn't show up in your tag search.
So what can you do? Unfortunately, I think the only way to be sure to find all the Transformers ships is to do a Tag Search within each of the different Transformers subfandoms (and I know there are a lot) and then combine the lists of ships you find for each. And then be sure to visit the tag works page for each resulting tag to get the actual number of works, as discussed above. I also discussed other ways to get the find the top relationships here, but I think they're all either less reliable or more arduous than this method, at least for a big fandom like Transformers.
Just wondering if your super sleuthing skills can clear up if it was indeed possible for JK to be at this club with Tae. Comments have some saying it was impossible because he had covid. Do we know when it was filmed? Was JK covid free and in the same zone when it was filmed?
Ok I think this will be harder because I only logged 2023 comings and goings 😭
This is the video in question;
What information do we have?
🕺It's a club in Las Vegas.
🛫 Jungkook flew to US for some "preparations" 27th March. Wonder if this was to do with quarantining.
🛫 Rest of BTS flew for PTD in Las Vegas and Grammy Awards on 28th March 2022 without JHope. (JHope posted himself leaving for LV on 2nd April 2022 and himself arriving in the daytime.)
😷 Bighit announced JK had been cleared to leave quarantine on 2nd April 2022 and was okayed to perform at Grammys.
🐻 Tae posted that club video on the morning of 2nd April 2022 but the video seems to be from the night before. He was not in attendance with Yoongi, RM and Jimin at Silk Sonic on the 1st (as per Bruno Mars insta) and people online were laughing that he had gone to the jazz club instead of Silk Sonic.
😷 On 2nd April, Bighit announces JK can go out after a negative covid test and JK instagrams that he "can go out!" and "photosynthesize"! Aww.
🎶 Hobi then arrived on 2nd and attended Silk Sonic that night with Tae and JK.
💜 They all attended Grammys on 3rd April.
🫴 So... As J-Hope arrived on the 2nd, Jin was recovering from finger surgery, RM, YG and JM were at Silk Sonic and Jungkook was in a hotel formally quarantining until 2nd, Tae seems to have been at the club by himself on the 1st.
📸 But someone is filming him. Someone says his name. The patrons of the club are older and maybe less likely to know who they are. Could be Jin as the only person available or allowed out but it doesn't sound like him. Could be staff.
🫴 In conclusion? Formally? Officially? On the record? The date and COVID announcements suggest it's not Jungkook with him. He was in the same city but not formally COVID free.
if it helps at all: the poster mentioned they found it on Pinterest, the relevant characters names are Popuko (right) and Pipimi (left), and the image used as a layer in the background is a screenshot of gm_construct's spawn from Garry's Mod. the song is Right Thurr by Chingy
hi there!
The original creator appears to be this tumblr user:
Popuko busts a move and dies
The earliest post of it I could find was on their twitter account
You know how in Scooby Doo Zombie Island part of the setup is that Daphne & Fred are traveling across the U.S. filming a show about finding a real ghost? That but Nancy & Jonathan
