My thoughts on a potential Clone Rebellion
Hey everyone, I've decided to share my thoughts and opinions on the Clone Rebellion story idea. These are just my thoughts on the subject.
Will we even see anything from the Clone Rebellion? I honestly don't know. I was hoping something would be announced on May 4th. It's been two years since the end of Bad Batch, and there's still silence. The next time we might see new information about anything related to the Clone Rebellion is next year, on May 4th, so we'll have to wait. However, to make this time more pleasant and vent a bit of my frustration, I decided to write down some of my thoughts and predict what such a Clone Rebellion might look like.
The question is in what form would it appear? We have several possibilities;
- tales of the clone - this is one of the options, but personally I'm not a big fan of tales of ... because of how short they are. In the case of combining it with clones I'm afraid that it would make the plots shallow and make it seem rushed. However, it's one of the probable options that needs to be taken into account.
- A single-season series - I love clones, but the topic of clones during the Empire era isn't extensive enough to create a multi-season series. Especially since we already have The Bad Batch. I doubt Disney would create two series telling the same story in a similar time period. I think a single-season miniseries is possible. I think a series with the number of episodes The Bad Batch has would be enough to conclude the clone story. It could even be shorter.
-book - this is one of the possibilities that at some stage a book about the Clone Rebellion will be published.
-film – unrealistic, but my favorite option. The Clone Wars began with a film, so it would be poetic if the clone storyline also ended with a film. It would be beautiful to see a production in the style of Clone Wars animation on the big screen in a movie theater; look how good Maul the Shadow Lord looked. Wouldn't it be great to see such an animated film in a movie theater? And the story of the Clone Rebels is perfect for a movie. Well, one can only dream.
Well, what can we see in such a production. After such a long time of teasing the topic of the clone rebellion, it would be unsatisfying not to see a great duel of clones vs. stormtroopers. Of course, such a fight is doomed to the victory of the empire, which is why I think there will be no happy ending and the atmosphere will be darker. This is also indicated by the state of Rex in the rebels, but I will develop this topic later. And when and where was the clone rebellion supposed to take place and where? As for when, I think it would be rather shortly after the destruction of Tantis. And where, well, the original clone rebellion took place on Kamino, but Kamino was destroyed, so where and how would it look? We can only theorize, but I have a few ideas;
- military coup on Coruscant – you may have heard of something called Operation Valkyrie and the events related to it during World War II. Or maybe you watched the movie "Valkyrie" from 2008. The Clone Rebellion could be the equivalent of these events in the Star Wars universe. I don't remember where and I don't know if it's legend or canon, but somewhere I saw a comic where just after the rise of the empire, a group of officers supporting the Republic assassinated Palpatine. So maybe this story will be adapted. Such a conspiracy could be led by Barton Coburn joining forces with Cody, which would show that not all officers of the Republic like the rise of the empire and not all, like Tarkin and Yularen, have become fascists. Of course, such a conspiracy is doomed to failure and would lead to battles on Coruscant between the rebellious clones and conspirators and the clones and stormtroopers loyal to the empire. In such a case, the rebellious clones presented to the public would be manipulated by the conspirators. Thanks to which we would not have problems with such an early appearance of such a large fight with the empire because everyone in the galaxy would perceive the whole incident as a conspiracy of corrupt officers and not a rebellion.
- Rebellion on Pantora - Another scenario I came up with is one in which, thanks to Chuckie's actions, the Empire could attack Pantora, just as it attacked Mon Cala, in which case the rebellious clones would defend Pantora, defending it alongside its inhabitants. After all, we don't hear anything about the Pantorians later in the canon, and Palpatine could make Pantora an example to the senators of what happens to unruly planets. Of course, the Empire would lie to the public that the Partorians caused the chaos and that "the good Empire had to intervene." Of course, such a fight is doomed to the Empire's victory and the Pantorians sharing the same fate as the Mon Calarmari.
-collaboration with Jedi -When we first meet Rex in Rebels, we have some interesting dialogue. When Kanan learns he's talking to clones, he draws his lightsaber. Wolf then attacks, saying, "Jedi. They've come for revenge." After a moment, Rex calms him down, saying that they're Jedi, yes, but "not the ones that betrayed us."Maybe after Tantis destroy , Rex and the other clones wanted to hide the Force-sensitive children released from the vault. To this end, they may have begun collaborating with a group of surviving Jedi or the Path. These Jedi may have distrusted them or, for example, betrayed them and exposed the Empire to their own hiding place.
- Fate of Rex, Gregory, Wolf……………. and Codi ;
In Rebels season 2 we can see Rex, Gregor and Wolf on Seelos. There must be some reason for the state we see them in in the rebels. I think it is caused by the defeat of the clone rebellion and the death of most of the participating clones. In addition, I do not know in what role Cody will appear but he will definitely die. A possible hint is that in Rebels in season 3 episode 6 Rex when he regains consciousness says Cody's name. Of course, this is caused by the return of PTSD from the Clone Wars but it can also be caused by PTSD related to Cody's death. I also think that Cody will die because it takes something strong to make Rex lose faith and surrender and Cody's death would be perfect for this. In such a scenario, wandering on Seelos was a kind of self-exile and self-punishment of Rex for the defeat of the clone rebellion. Something like Yoda setting off for Dagobah in Rots.
Gregor will simply go with Rex to Seelos, fearing for his mental state (I mean Rex's mental state after the defeat of the clone rebellion, Gregor will be worried about him and will not want to leave him alone).
As for Wolf's fate, I'm not sure; I think he could remain loyal to the Empire. Even during the Rebellion, he informs the Empire of the Ghost crew's arrival and intercepts Ahsoka's messages to Rex. So, I think in the Clone Rebellion itself, he could represent the clones loyal to the Empire. We got some perspective on the clones loyal to the Empire in the Crosshair storyline, but with Wolf, we saw the perspective of the clones forced to fight other clones, which seems interesting. He could also be a clone spy for the Empire. Theoretically, he remains loyal to the Empire, but he secretly collaborates with Rex, and the Empire never learns of his spying. Perhaps after the Clone Rebellion's defeat, many clones will be imprisoned, and Wolfe will help free them or arrange a pardon for Rex and Gregor? Remember that in Rebels, Rex said he provided secret locations for the Empire, and Attolon was one of the few safe houses Rex hid.
-The fate of senator Riyo Chuch;
There is a very high probability that she will die. Chuchi appropriately boldly and openly opposes the empire and the emperor. Even Bail Organa does not so openly oppose the empire and Andor and Mon Mothma's history indicates to us that open opposition to the empire is harmful. She is not mentioned anywhere else, she is not in Rogue One or Andor. Chuchi has already tried several times to kill her for himself in money, when it starts to change into what happened on Tantis priority by her elimination. A potential scenario that includes such a description, which includes the role of the senator and his relationship, becomes the key to the rebel.
-The fate of Emerie Karr;
As for Emerie, I think that apart from the thread of adapting to a new life, she will also be pursued by the empire. All of Kamino's data has been destroyed and Hemlock and Nala Se are dead, so the Emperor needs a new scientist who will work on the necromancer project. Of course, there are many scientists in the empire, but Palpatine may assume that since Emerie worked with Hemlock for many years and has a vague history with Nala Se, she may have at least some of the knowledge about cloning in her head that was lost on Tantis. To keep the necromancer project secret, Palpatine may send Brendol Hux or/and Gallius Rax, which would be a good excuse to introduce these characters to a wider audience.
(If I remember correctly, Gallius Rax was still a teenager at that time, but he was already fanatically loyal to Palpatine, so he could have been a spy, for example. For example, he was impersonating Chuchi's assistant or something similar.)
This can branch off in two ways;
-Emerie is running away from the empire's pursuit. Maybe she'll fake her death and change her identity, which would also tie into the plot of starting a new life and cutting off the past with Hemlock. In such a scenario, she'd probably join the hidden path and help the children who are sensitive to the force. With her knowledge of the empire's plans, she'd probably be helpful.
- Emerie is captured. In such a scenario, after the confrontation with Palpatine, she could become Galen Erso for the necromancer project. She would come to the same conclusions as Erso and pretend to be broken, she would work on the necromancer project while silently sabotaging it.
Personally, I'm a little skeptical of this line because it would be hard to convey without feeling like Emerie's story has gone back to where we first met her on Tantis. However, in support of this, I'll say that it would plug a few plot holes.
First of all, why didn't the empire return to Pabu and forget about Omega? Hemlock hid their escape and didn't inform anyone? It's possible that he didn't want to admit to Palpatine that someone from his secret base had escaped. The same can be said for why the empire didn't return to Pabu. Hemlock hid all the information. But why didn't scientists like Dr. Scalder or other scientists who worked on Tantis spill the beans? They certainly knew about the properties of Omega's blood and they certainly didn't die either. If Emerie had returned to the empire, it could be explained by the fact that she had somehow persuaded or forced Scalder and other scientists who knew to keep quiet.
(Scalder literally stands by as Hemlock explains why Omega is so important)
Secondly, Tantis fell in 18 BBY and the Emperor's son was created in 12BBY and he was not the first, just one of many attempts to create a Palpatine clone. Did the Emperor manage to start the necromancer project from scratch in less than 6 years? Yes, but if we assume that Emerie, who probably had insight into the secrets of cloning on Tantis and could study Omega's blood, it would look more likely. In addition, if Emerie sabotaged the necromancer project, then the disintegration of the Emperor's bodies may not have been an accident but a deliberate sabotage.
Third, Dr. Pershing in Season 3 of The Mandalorian mentions that he developed his cloning methods based on Kaminoam knowledge. Of course, that means nothing and he could simply mean general Kaminoam knowledge while on Tantis the specialized knowledge was lost, but I wanted to mention it. If Emerie were to return to the empire, she could eventually become Pershing's mentor and instill in him the ethics that make Mando so hesitant.
- What kind of Jedi conduct themselves
I think it would be interesting to think of it as Quinlan Vos. We know from Serlau Kenobi that Vos is part of the Path. During the Clone Wars, Quinlan was one of the few Jedi who disliked and distrusted clones. Moreover, he had a brush with the dark side. He abandoned it after Ventres's "death," but he could have been tempted by the dark side again after Order 66. The clones should also be distrustful of him, as Vos briefly worked for Dooku and killed clones. In summary, their encounter could be interesting.
In my opinion, Echo will survive. If I remember correctly, there is information about the Echo base on Hoth and the name Echo could have been the origin of the base's name. Very likely, considering how the theory that the old grandpa on Endor is Rex has passed into canon. Echo also has the greatest potential. Thanks to his cybernetic enhancements, even in the OG era, he can be fully functional, so that he can service himself well. Echo is also a person who will never retire and I can imagine that throughout all these years he joins various rebellion cells to fight the empire. In addition, in my opinion, the saddest and most heartbreaking ending of Echo's storyline in the clone rebellion is that he survives. Again, when his other brothers die, he will be the survivor.
- other individual clones such as Howzer personally give it a 50/50 either they will die or survive.
- the bad bath definitely did not appear. Maybe there will be some conversation between Hunter and Echo but they definitely retired after season 3.
-maybe Vader will appear. They have his model after all.
In addition, Vader's appearance implies another thing. The 501st legion would be sent to suppress the clone rebellion together with Vader, which would have an even greater impact on Rex. The nightmare of Umbara would repeat itself only on a larger scale and even more bloodily. Now the clones would know that they are fighting against each other.
If you made it to the end and managed to read all my ramblings, thank you very much. Let me know what you think about what I wrote.
