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Not to get into community discourse, but I’d like to share a point.

Mind you, I have seen multiple sides to this “debate” as I like to have rounded knowledge before I say my piece, about ANYTHING political or discourse-y.

The statement I’ve seen again and again, in multiple places, is the sentiment that there aren’t bills directly targeting transmascs, or hatred directed specifically at transmascs, or anything else under that umbrella directed at transmascs.

Obviously there have been a lot of good counters to these statements, and I’m not going to repeat something that’s been said better or more eloquently by others.

However, I have yet to see anyone talking about something that, in my opinion, really should be referenced more.

The concept of “Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria” (ROGD).

ROGD as a concept was legitimately created to theorize why, all of a sudden, transmascs were coming out and attempting to transition.

Rather than acknowledging the blatant truth- tranness, to these people, was limited to AMABs, and even then, for the longest time “trans healthcare” for ANY trans person was just discouraging transition altogether- they decided to make up a narrative that suited their needs.

That their precious “daughters” were falling victim to a new disorder. Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria.

Rather than help their sons feel comfortable in their own bodies, masses of parents flocked to this idea. Politicians flocked to this idea, and used it as a BASIS for many anti-trans bills.

Need I cite the hopefully infamous book? “Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters”? The INFAMOUS book written elaborating this idea? The book used as evidence for countless transphobic bills?

That one concept (which, by the way, ROGD has been discredited by NUMEROUS health organizations worldwide, just in case I needed to clarify that) led to COUNTLESS transmascs facing abuses at home, in school, and elsewhere.

IDK, just food for thought. I think it’s odd that, in all my searching and read throughs of this discourse, NOBODY has mentioned this, even though it’s a pretty good example of transmasc specific oppression.

#transmasc #trans stuff #transmasculine #gender identity #transandromisia #transandrophobia #anti transmasculinity #transmasc discourse #rapid onset gender dysphoria #total bs btw #but thats another post #rogd is bullshit #idk if this makes sense

not to be uncharitable. but im about to be uncharitable.

"T ruined my singing voice!!" <- this person was never a good singer to begin with

like. yeah. relearning how to sing with a new voice is work. but also. singing. in general. being a good singer is WORK. if you weren't putting in work before. well you were probably. decent. but you weren't. good.

sorry.

#testosterone #transmasc discourse #trans discourse #transandrophobia #< ish. its a transandrophobic talking point that T will ~ruin~ your voice. meant to encourage us not to transition.#min rambles #ok to rb #“sorry. this was mean and meanly worded. but i can't get it worded in a way that's more polite. and it wont leave my head until i post”

imagine thinking that trans men are inherently bad or evil or predatory on the basis of gendered privilege and societal power structures. cringe

#transmasc discourse #like the idea that trans men gain male privilege and kick down the ladder to beat on the queer community is astonishingly stupid at best #the idea that transphobia or queerphobia as a whole doesn't affect them because they're Assimilating With The Oppressors is like #man fucking what is up with people yknow #gender essentialism is fucked up and it's the same force that's beaten down on bi ace and transfem people #the fact that this has turned into 'trans rights but only for the women' by some dumb-fuck shitstains is awful #no. trans rights for all.#like let me explain what I mean here: trans men aren't seen as men by transphobes #it's not 'oh you're a fella? crack a cold beer and let's bash some gays'. passing as a man has just as much risk to it as passing as a woman #because a man who will attack a trans woman as someone who is not a woman will most likely attack a trans man he does not see as a man #with the same violence he might level against a cis woman #that's just on the masc side. i can't speak for any violence against trans men by cis women but I can see how cis women discredit trans men #by claiming them as Lost Lesbians and Sisters In Arms who've been lost due to the Trans Agenda #like people shit on bi people because they have 'passing privilege'. but we know that bi people face homophobia #and other issues about their orientation. the idea that trans men get their Boys Will Be Boys card is to focus on a tiny selection #that *potentially* has the power to he a shithead - like a queerphobic asexual person or a malicious bi person #and paint an entire group of diverse people as literally the worst interpretation you can imagine about them #like consider that you have your own issues and/or biases in regards to people you like and want to hang out with #and stop calling entire groups of people invaders and oppressors whose entire goal is to upend the community #and turn the power of queer people against them #i understand how it feels to feel powerless and to have somewhere where you feel supported and safe #but if you're going to see pain and hate in every group who shares your experience but gives you an ick for whatever reason #there's a solid chance that the Righteous Crusade against them is - in fact - your own personal dislike wielding a modicum of power #that essentially functions the same way that hetero- and cis-normative standards and people have rejected you.#it is essentially you becoming the bully. and just like bi and ace and transfem people before I won't stand for it #trans men are my people.

Yikes, there’s a lot of discourse going on in the trans masc tags today, it seems. I’m gonna rant so just block/mute if you’re tired of hearing it.

I feel like a lot of transmasc folks on here (especially white transmasc folks) are more interested in playing oppression olympics than actually uplifting other trans and queer people. And no, this is not just limited to “transmasc v trans femme, who is more discriminated against” because first of all that’s fucking garbage. Some of you lack the basic readings comprehension skills to understand that there are different types of discrimination that apply to both trans men and trans women—visibly or invisibly—and that they are ALL considered transphobic and violent. Sitting here and typing out how you’re more oppressed than trans women is fucking stupid, and I say this as a trans masc person.

Which brings me to point 2. A lot of you don’t know that there is a time and a place for your personal dysphoria. LET ME BE CLEAR— no one is telling you that you can’t make your own posts, tiktoks, etc describing your personal gender dysphoria and how you deal with that. I am SPECIFICALLY talking about when you hijack someone else’s post/tiktok/etc to derail or invalidate it with your own personal dysphoria.

I saw a lighthearted tiktok about a transmasc dude making a joke about how he can eat whatever he wants before bottoming (implying he is not only ok with vaginal intercourse but also making a nice comment about his body and experiences). You bet your ass his comment section was filled with people snarking like “ok but MY dysphoria” “couldn’t be me” “I can’t even look down there” OK?! No one asked you. This tiktok wasn’t FOR you. It was for other transmasc folks who are ok with their vagina. Keep scrolling, have that conversation in your own tiktok. I see plenty of them from dudes who have similar body opinions of themselves.

There’s a lot I could say about these same transmasc folks policing who is and isn’t trans due to the level of discomfort they feel on a daily basis, and it’s bullshit. That’s classic cis shit. You don’t have to prove you’re trans by showing how much you hate the gender you’re transing out of, or by how well much you perform cis ideas of male/female. I did too much time pretending to be a hyper feminine woman to turn around and pretend to be a hyper masculine man.

Y’all complain transmasc folks don’t have communities, but every time I’ve tried to join one of them it’s filled with people trying to play oppression and suffering olympics. Being trans is already hard. It doesn’t have to mean suffering. Don’t alienate yourselves from other trans masc and trans folks. Don’t alienate yourselves from queer folks.

#trans man #transmasc #transmasc discourse #gender dysphoria

discourse time again, woohoo.

(atp my blog is for discourse so. hit me.)

please please please. i’m looking at a specific group here.

stop taking intersex terms and claiming them as yours. “cagab” is an intersex thing. it refers to being surgically altered as an infant or small child to fit into a false sex binary. it refers to lifelong medical trauma.

and while we’re at it, regular old “agab” too. fuck off.

signed, an really fucking tired intersex transman.

#transmasc #trans stuff #intersex #intersex transmasc #actually intersex #transmasc discourse #trans discourse #queer discourse

"transmasc discourse" its discourse to you. The otherness of being trans in a cisnormative society, the disconnect between what's expected of you based on your sex and how you actually feel about yourself regarding gender and the struggle to express yourself and finally be happy as transgender reads just as well to me from a transmasc perspective as it does from a transfem one.

The idea that transmasculine people benefit from patriarchy and misogyny is bunk when you consider that transphobia manifests as people not taking trans people as the gender they present as, and transphobia tends to be a default in cisnormative spaces. I would wager that transmen are still often victims of misogyny due to that expression of transphobia. The idea that transmen transition, become one of the guys and kick down the ladder for other queer identities because they assimilate as "oppressors" and inherently become a part of the problem is absurd and deranged.

Transmasc people are as queer as gay people, bi people, transfem people, non-binary people, pan people - they are a part of the queer community, and I'm absolutely against othering them or turning them into intra-community "oppressors".

If we're talking about assimilationists, they exist along all axes of queerness and aren't inherent to the transmasc experience. If we're talking about misogyny, transmasc people tend to suffer from it due to transphobia. I've heard for years about bi people and ace people and trans people "harming the community", I'm not about to roll over and see the same thing happen to transmasculine people.

In closing:

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#transmasc discourse #this blog is queer-positive. this blog is LGBTQIA+ positive. this blog is a safe space for bi and ace and trans and nonbinary people #I've seen enough exclusionist horseshit to know who my true friends and allies are

yk theres a good reason i dont engage in identity discourse beyond just "i dont wanna". its because trying to make an argument about someone's identity-- especially when that someone isnt you-- makes you run the risk of misunderstanding and misidentifying the specific identity youre trying to argue about. the easy-- and correct-- answer is very simple: "not my circus not my monkeys". stay in your goddamn lane and let people do their thing. it doesnt need to involve you.

#im actually gonna tag this one! a shock i know #nonbinary discourse #transfem discourse #transmasc discourse #im not putting this in their dedicated tags because those should be reserved for trans joy #not this