#tts frederic

[vat7k-user-2026]

Tangled: Before Ever After, Tangled: The Series and Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure - Rapunzel and her own parents with Eugene

[bad-holmes-impression]

staring helplessly at frederic, because how can you make a character who:

-has comedic moments consisting off “putting a tailor in the stockades for a minor mistake” and “stealing his rival’s pet”

-was startled at his own rules, needing nigel to remind him of them

-tried to exile someone for theft

-kept medicine in a vault (while believing it still had power) after he no longer needed it

-ignored a crisis in his kingdom because of guilt and a desire to shelter a young adult

-sent guards to steal from and silence a fourteen-year-old

-lies to, belittles, and puts said young adult in a tower just like her former abuser did (“former” as in the first one, because poor rapunzel has had several)

-said “i promise i will do everything i can to get him help”, inclining that he realizes varian has had a mental breakdown and could benefit from care, and then breaks that promise

-sticks the aforementioned fourteen-year-old in an eight-by-eight cell with a grown man (no therapy mentioned, not even in passing)

-is such a horrible ruler that his people believed he’d order them to mine, and has spread such effective propaganda that they refuse to defy him

-is only mildly tolerable after his memory has been erased

-overrides his wife, constantly, to the point where she hardly offers opinions on anything

…and think it’s a good idea to declare that that character is your self-insert? painting the king as “good” by any stretch of the imagination, is laughable.

[tirednshet]

I keep getting random tts ideas in my head-💀

This is for a weird-ass story that I came up with in my head where a 18-year-old Varian is experimenting in his lab during a dark stormy night and then he gets up to go get sm. But his experiment is fucked up by some dark entity or some shit so when Varian gets back and puts something else in, he goes unconscious and travels to a fucked up version of Corona...and gets traumatized. A lot. You'll know what happened once you read below the cut. It's like the story Eugene told but majorly fucked up.

‘Millennia ago, a drop of Sun and Moon fell from the Heavens and descended to the corners of the globe; two elements longing to reunite…’

‘The Sundrop ended up in the hands of the king and queen of Corona, and the Moonstone ended up in the hands of the Dark Kingdom.’

‘The Sundrop was used to heal Corona's queen, who was pregnant, and very ill. But the power of the Sundrop itself was infused with the queen's unborn daughter, Rapunzel. So when she was born, she was born with beautiful, golden hair, along with the powers of the Sundrop. The king and queen celebrated their daughter's birth by sending floating lanterns into the sky. But alas, this happiness wouldn't last forever.’

‘One night, someone broke into the baby's tower and took her. The person was Mother Gothel, who desperately wanted her Sundrop flower back. When she realized that the Sundrop's healing powers had infused with Rapunzel, she took the baby and fled. The guards were alerted and wasted no time chasing after Gothel, but she was too fast, too agile. It almost looked like she was going to escape with the baby. Almost. Fortunately, the guards that were chasing her caught up to her and arrested her in front of her biological daughter, Cassandra. As a result, the Captain of the Royal Guard took Cassandra in as his own daughter, and Rapunzel was returned to her parents.’

‘But as Rapunzel grew older, her parents were more protective of her than ever due to her nearly getting kidnapped as a baby. They realized that they had to keep the power of the Sundrop protected and away from the wrong hands at ALL COSTS. But then, the black rocks came to the kingdom. The rocks destroyed infrastructure, terrified their subjects, and ultimately caused misery. The king and queen knew they had to do something, but they didn't know what, so they stayed put. But one day, while their daughter was out with the guards, she touched one of the rocks. The rock blew up, creating a massive crater in the town center, and rendering their daughter unconscious. That's when the king and queen knew they had to act. If these rocks were a danger to their daughter, then they would have to go.’

‘The king tracked the rocks to see if he could discern a pattern based on their locations. He soon realized that the rocks were forming a path that led somewhere. That somewhere, the king and queen realized, was the source of where the black rocks had come from. The source of all their misery. The source of their daughter's suffering. The king sent out a small scouting group to follow the black rocks to the source, and they found a kingdom- the Dark Kingdom. The king wasted no time in organizing an invasion of said kingdom. Before you know it, the king, his son, and his guards are taken prisoner, their people scattered across the land, and the Moonstone, discovered within the very heart of the palace in the Dark Kingdom, is sealed up in a chamber deep below Corona by the orders of the king. This leads us to today, a supposedly peaceful kingdom with no black rocks around, but in reality, it is a tyrant to its subjects and its prisoners who did nothing wrong…’

If y'all have any better ideas or spot any plot holes, comment down below. This is still a work-in-progress.

[twotangledsisters]

Remember how in the episode "Not in the Mood", at the very end, Captain attacks Cassandra and she's saved by a stranger. While Frederic snaps out of the spell just in time to NOT attack Rapunzel?

This moment really struck me at the time.

But perhaps the reason it struck me is a bit different. Because it actually has more to do with the fandom.

See, when it comes to the fandoms opinion on these two characters, I see a lot of:

a) Hate for Frederic because of the mistakes he made

b) Hate for Cassandra because, "she shouldn't have gotten angry, she had a dad who loves her!"

Like, people celebrate captain for taking Cassandra in, nobody judged him for being protective of Cassandra and getting in the way of her dreams. For not listening to her, for not being emotionally there for her, for lying to her. His mistakes are forgiven.

Frederic on the other hand, does not get that same treatment. Despite the fact the show does an amazing job of showing just how scared Frederic is for his daughter (the snuggly duckling episode for example where you see him worrying just because Rapunzel hasn't come back after a storm).

So, what's the difference between these two situations?

My best guess: adoption.

Media and society often act like the selfness act of taking on a child that is not your own excuses you of any mistakes you make after that. He gave you a home after all, isn't that enough?

I know this is something engrained at a society level by the way, I'm not judging anybody as an individual for not realizing this.

But it really is unfair on both characters. Of course Frederic made mistakes but he ultimately loved his daughter, that doesn't mean Rapunzel didn't have a right to be angry at him.

And of course Captain loved Cassandra, that doesn't mean he was a good parent and Cassandra is allowed to be upset by the mistakes that were made.

She deserved a parent, she got captain, and she doesn't owe captain any more gratefulness than a none-adopted child does.

You woul't say to a child, hey, stop judging your parents, they could have just abandoned you as a child!

So don't tell an adopted child, hey, stop judging your parent, they could have not adopted you!

Anyway, there was a bit of a rant/ramble. I love all of these characters, I think flawed characters are great.

I just wish people wouldn't put adoptive parents on pedestals. They're just as much parents as any other parent and standards should be kept the same for all of them.

[neokonewman]

I feel that Rapunzel and her Dad's issues relied too heavily on demonizing Varian as their problem. True he kidnapped the Queen, but their was more going on with them before Varian lost it on them. I dislike how defeating Varian is treated as solving the issues between them.

Honestly, all of Frederic’s shortcomings are too easily explained away because the show uses Varian as a scapegoat. Frederic hiding the knowledge of the black rocks until they are literally starting to destroy the captial? Somehow he convinces the angry townspeople to turn against the one person actually working on stopping the rocks. Frederic sending disguised guards to harass Varian in his already destroyed home? Completely overlooked in favor of Rapunzel just being angry about being lied to. Even Rapunzel uses Varian as an excuse to lesson Frederic’s actions when Frederic even dared to try to take responsibility for his mistakes.

Varian didn’t cause the rift between Frederic and Rapunzel. It was Frederic’s lies that caused that rift. It’s Rapunzel’s inaction until she literally couldn’t not ignore the black rocks that’s part of the problem. The townspeoples’ rage about the black rocks destroying their homes and livelihoods shouldn’t have been “solved” by directing that anger on a single teen. Frederic was WAY more responsible for the conflict in S1 than Varian was. All Varian did was allow his sorrow turn into rage, borned from the desperation that was forged by Frederic and Rapunzel actions and inaction.

Also, Frederic and Rapunzel has had their issues with each other before Varian was even induced to the series. Frederic was already understandably overprotective of Rapunzel, while Rapunzel felt like the kingdom of Corona just became a larger tower for hun to hide her away. Rapunzel comparing Frederic to Gothel for that brief moment was the true conflict between the two of them. Varian was just a boy who wanted to help when it was clear to him that no one else was trying to stop the rocks. Whatever weird obsession the show has in portraying Frederic as this “poor and misunderstood, soft-hearted” father just makes his character suffer due to not letting him develop.

[tatomikat]

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Meanwhile outside of Corona

Cassandra: feels a foreboding shiver run down her spine “Does anyone else hear boss music?”

Captain: appears behind her

[lucdoodle]

Frederic: Alright, somebody else needs to become the bad example in the group!

Varian: But you wear the shame so well

[quirinisproud]

How do you think your relationship with Frederic is like now?

Well, it’s pretty good. I’m afraid King Frederic doesn’t like my son much, and that has put a little strain on our relationship, but I still consider him my friend as well as my king. Maybe he and Varian will work things out someday...