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Russian Word Order
Word order in Russian is a crazy thing.
У меня в сумочке пистолет. = I have a gun in my purse.
Пистолет у меня в сумочке. = The gun is in my purse.
The word order completely changes the meaning! The first phrase is what a bank robber would quietly whisper to a teller. The second sounds like a line from Pulp Fiction—imagine Honey Bunny talking to Pumpkin when he asks, "Where is your damn gun?"
To relax or to relexify.
That is the question
never seen a language described this way, i love it
Let's Make A Conlang Poll #6! (Redo)
I accidentally put the wrong time limit on the original version of this poll, so we're gonna redo it to get a larger sample size!
Grammar! Yay! May as well get some other stuff figured out while I try to sort out round 2 of the vowel selection poll!
The first grammar related thing we have to figure out is word order. For anyone who doesn't remember their grammar unit(s) from school (I only ever had one grammar unit. It was in 9th grade and was only like a week long. But this is public school in the US I'm talking about so that makes sense), the subject of a sentence is generally the thing doing the verb, whereas the object of a sentence is the thing the verb is being done to.
For Example:
Blåhaj ate food.
"Blåhaj" is the subject, "ate" is the verb, and "food" is the object.
As shown above, the word order for English is Subject-Verb-Object, or SVO. Other languages with this word order include French, Spanish, Chinese, and Dutch. About 42% of languages have this word order.
SOV is actually slightly more common, at about 45% of languages, including Latin, Japanese, Hindi, and Ancient Greek.
The third most common word order is VSO, which includes languages like Classical Hebrew and Arabic, Filipino, Irish, and Māori. This is followed by VOS, (which includes languages like Ojibwe, Malagasy, and Yucatec Maya), then OVS, (which includes languages such as Äiwoo, Guarijio, Hixkaryana, and Urarina, as well as the well-known conlang Klingon), then OSV (which as far as I can tell from Wikipedia is only the main word order of a handful of languages in the Amazon).
Sometimes languages deviate from their main word order in certain circumstances, and it can get a little more complicated than just what is described here, but we'll get into most of that stuff later; this is just to figure out the main word order used in most circumstances.
What should the primary word order be?
Subject-object-verb
Subject-verb-object
Verb-subject-object
Verb-object-subject
Object-verb-subject
Object-subject-verb
This poll is to create a grammar system for a constructed language made (as much as possible) entirely with tumblr polls! More information on this project can be found here!
Please reblog for larger sample size! Poll #7 (or vowel tournament round 2, depending on whether or not I have time to set it up) should go up in 48 hours!
Taglist: @writing-with-olive@notajerusalemcricket@antique-symbolism-main@jan-fiona-li-pona
Layla Imoto (Bite size Japanese)
Japanese relies more on particles than rigid word order to convey meaning, resulting in a flexible structure where the verb is placed at the end, with other elements arranged to emphasize the intended focus.
The Japanese Sentence Structure (April 2021)
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The acronym UTC for Coordinated Universal Time was chosen because they did not want to favour one country's grammatical system over another's!
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Lingthusiasm Episode 66: Word order, we love
Let’s say we have the set of words “Lauren”, “Gretchen”, and “visits” and we want to make them into a sentence. The way that we combine these words is going to have a big effect on who’s packing their bags and who’s sitting at home with the kettle on. In English, our two sentences look like “Gretchen visits Lauren” and “Lauren visits Gretchen” -- but that’s not the only word order that’s possible. In theory, we could also use other orders, like “Lauren Gretchen visits” or “Visits Gretchen Lauren”, and in fact, many languages do. The only thing that really matters is that for any given language, we all agree on which order means what.
In this episode, your hosts Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne get enthusiastic about how languages put words in a particular order. There are many possibilities, but a few of them show up a lot more than others: “I <3 linguistics” (as in English and Indonesian) and “I linguistics <3″ (as in Turkish and Japanese) are the most common word orders for conveying who did what to who. Another common strategy is using some other way of marking the actor and the acted-upon, which frees up word order for other functions, like indicating the topic of the sentence first (and what you want to comment about it afterwards) -- in English, this might be akin to “Linguistics, I <3 it”. We also look at how Yoda maintains his unique approach to word order across a variety of languages, including Hungarian, Japanese, Romanian, and Czech.
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WALS map of Order of Subject, Object and Verb (SOV, SVO, etc)
All Things Linguistic post on the I <3 NY meme
Inuit Sign Language: a contribution to sign language typology
All Things Linguistic post on Yoda’s syntax in languages other than English
All Things Linguistic post on what baby Yoda’s first words might be
Why we need a gradient approach to word order
@abenitezburraco tweet about gradient approach to word order
Lingthusiasm episode ‘Pronouns. Little words, big jobs’
Lingthusiasm episode ‘The verb is the coat rack that the rest of the sentence hangs on’
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