I think ZKs really exaggerated Zuko and Kataraās relationship, and this is coming from a guy who actually really likes Zuko and Kataraās relationship, just not a ship (itās not as toxic as some say, by the end of the show at least).
Isaw this one post about how Zuko and Katara have the most intimate relationship of The Gaang. How heās the only one who supports her, understands her and validates her anger. Whereas Zuko is the only one Katara doesnāt have to look after, the only one she can depend on emotionally, the only one who sheās sees as an equal and matches her maturity.
I question this, because when did we see this in the show? Besides like 3 instances. ZKs act like Katara was never supported by Aang (or the others). Iām sure that everything they say Zuko does for Katara, Aang does for her and more. Everything Katara supposedly has in Zuko, she already has in Aang. I could list all of this, but this is already running long as it is.
This the full post: https://www.tumblr.com/theotterpenguin/738115696097116160/thinking-about-how-katara-is-the-only-person-zuko?source=share
not only are they exaggerating the depth of katara and zukoās relationship, but theyāre underplaying the depth of her relationship with literally everyone else. like they undermine how much all her friends mean to her by saying the guy she was on good terms with for like 4 episodes immediately became her closest companion and confidant
the only time we see zuko offer her support of any kind is during the southern raiders episode where heās encouraging her to go kill the guy who murdered her mother. and heās not doing it because he genuinely wants to be a supportive figure for her, but because he thinks this is whatāll get her to finally forgive him and stop treating him so coldly. and then the episode ends with him admitting that he was wrong in terms of what she neededānot violent revenge but the chance to let her anger out without compromising her morals in blind rage. other than that, we donāt see him act as a shoulder for her to lean on, and the one instance we do see him act that way, heās bad at it and ends up realizing there are ways other than violence to move on from internalized anger
and sure you can argue that zuko still gave her the chance to confront yon rha even if she chose not to kill him like he encouraged her to, and that inandof itself is an act of emotional support, but the reality is he did that to get on her good side rather than to be a genuine friend. had she already been friendly to him, would he have ever brought up that he knows who killed kya? would he have even asked sokka about the day their mom died to get that information? in the show he only does this because he canāt fathom why katara is still mad at him when everyone else has already forgiven him. he wanted to speed up her process of forgiving him, so had she already forgiven him and they were friends, i doubt the whole āi can help you avenge your motherā convo would have ever happened because it wouldnāt have served him to do so. and in my opinion, any support that has ulterior motives and an end goal isnāt genuine support
but compare this to aang and sokka. we see these two go out of their way for her countless times throughout the three books, which makes sense considering the three of them are the ogs and went through everything together (incoming really long list lmao)
aang offers to take katara to the northern water tribe so she can learn waterbending under a master after knowing her for only a few hours at most. he also does this after she expresses her upset at being the only southern waterbender left. ākatara! weāre going to find you a master!ā
aang gives himself over to zuko and his fire nation crew to save katara and sokkaās village
aang completes all of bumiās challenges to save katara and sokka
aang credits katara for haruās sudden bravery in saving that old man. āwow you must have really inspired himā
aang and sokka willingly (and eagerly) participate in her plan to get arrested for earthbending
sokka comes up with the plan to get coal to the earthbenders so they can find motivation again, something that katara is very passionate about, thus showing his support in her goal
aang and sokka help fight the fire nation guards that are keeping the earthbenders prisoner, aiding in kataraās goal of helping them help themselves
aang weaves katara a brand new necklace after she had her motherās stolen. this makes her smile
aang is quick to reassure katara when she begins to show signs of self-doubt at aangās natural waterbending talent. āwell you had to learn all on your own. iām lucky enough to have a great teacherā
aang refers to katara as a waterbender, something that clearly means so much to her after she spent the whole episode insecure of her abilities
sokka steals the waterbending scroll for katara and aang to learn from
aang travels alone in search of medicine for katara and sokka, all while an entire nation is hunting him down with the intent to torture him to the brink of death, thus risking his life for their safety
sokka tackles aang after hearing kataraās cries of pain when he accidentally burns her. despite knowing and caring for aang, sokka canāt stand the thought of someone hurting katara even if unintentionally, especially with fire
aang explicitly states he will never firebend again after accidentally hurting her. he too canāt stand the thought of her in pain and hates that he was the one who hurt her (this is also him taking ownership of his mistake and punishing himselfāfor those of you who think he is never held accountable for his mistakes)
aang refuses to learn under pakku when he rejects katara and only lets up when katara tells him he needs to take this chance to learn waterbending
sokka is the one to suggest that aang teach katara everything pakku is teaching him, and aang loves this idea
aang cheers for her when she fights pakku. āgo katara!ā
the general is only able to trigger aang into the avatar state after he is made to believe that katara was buried alive, showcasing once again how much he cares about her safety
aang pushes katara out of the way of falling rocks when the aftermath of appa getting burned causes the tunnel to cave in
aang refers to katara as āsifuā after she made an offhand comment about him never calling her that. this makes her smile
aang turns away from cosmic power immediately after he sees a vision of katara in danger
aang lets her go so he can unlock all his chakras and save katara from impending doom against azula, zuko, and the dai li
aang eagerly participates in kataraās plan to perform ecoterroism and calls her a hero
aang also eagerly participates in helping her scare off the fire nation general as the painted lady. sokka participates as well because āi would never turn my back on youā
sokka has a talk with toph after she blows up at katara for her motherly-attitude (and while i definitely have issues with this episode i still think itās important that sokka sought out this conversation to sorta defend his sister and help toph see where katara is coming from)
aang and sokka hug and comfort her when she breaks down crying after becoming a bloodbender
after knowing her for so long (his whole life in sokkaās caseāheās her fucking brother) and witnessing the kind of reaction she had to bloodbending, aang and sokka both tried talking her down from killing a man. this is a 14-year-old girl in pain. the same 14-year-old girl who put her life and freedom at risk to save earthbenders from their metal prison and sobbed when she was forced to bloodbend to save her best friend from dying again and delayed their groupās traveling to relieve a fire nation village from fire nation pollution and control, was now demanding to kill a man in cold blood. aang and sokka were supporting her full on during this episode because they knew, more than fucking anyone, that killing yon rha would only hurt her once she came down from her blind rage. and to add even more proof of their unwavering trust in her to always do the right thing not just for others but for herself, aang allowed her to take appa to confront the man. appa, aangās lifelong companion and animal guide, his only living reminder of his culture and pacifistic people, and who aang had suffered a painful separation from. aang trusted her with appa to go on this mission. because he trusts and supports her
now onto the claim that zuko is more mature than everyone else and therefore matches her in maturity. i just bust out laughing LMAO
for starters, letās not act like katara is the epitome of maturity. yea, sheās the mom friend, but sheās still a kid and acts like one. yall just refuse to acknowledge the moments where she makes mistakes as her acting her age and being human. instead yall hold these mistakes over her more aggressively than the other characters or yall pretend they donāt exist in favor of idealizing her so she fits into your āsheās so mature and is a mother figure to everyoneā role (her telling sokka āthen you didnāt love her like i didā, blowing up at aang for picking up waterbending so quickly, antagonizing toph out of pettiness by making fun of her blindnessāātoo bad you canāt see them toph!ā, etc.)
zuko is a whole other story lol. that boy wouldnāt know maturity if it hit him in the face, and when you compare his behavior to other characters in the gaang it becomes all the more obvious (incoming anotherāshorterālist)
aang when presented with his mistake in ābato of the water tribeā -> he accepts the consequencesākatara and sokka leaving himāand admits he was wrong. he doesnāt blame anyone else nor does he beg for forgiveness or try convincing katara and sokka to stay. he accepts he was wrong and lets himself sit with the consequences of his actions. from then on, we never see aang selfishly hide information from his friends again
katara when presented with her mistake in āthe waterbending scrollā after yelling at aang -> she apologizes immediately and punishes herself by handing the scroll over to him, claiming she wants nothing to do with it. she recognizes the mistake and quickly accepts a self-punishment to regulate her own behavior
sokka when presented with the issues of his sexism -> he gets on his knees in front of suki and respectfully asks that she train him, using the word āhonorā to communicate his sincerity. he admits his faults to her at the end of the episode and his behavior is different from then on. he reflects on a part of himself, deems that he needs to change, and then makes those changes without having to be forced into doing so or guided repeatedly into making the right choices along the way. he arrives there by himself after being presented with evidence that proves his original way of thinking wrong
now compare that with zukoās journey of unlearning his prejudiced ways
when he is shown extreme kindness by song and her mother, he repays them by stealing from them
after having been on a good-streak while living in the earth kingdom, zuko sides with azula the moment his integrity is put to the test in front of the avatar, betraying his uncle in favor of āhis honorā
when iroh stops talking to him, zuko screams at him and places blame on iroh for this change in their relationship
when mai is seen talking to another guy, zuko storms over and throws that guy across a room. she, understandably, breaks up with him
when katara gives him the cold shoulder, zuko demands āwhatās your problem?!ā, asking how it can be that she still hates him but everyone else has forgiven him, as if he hasnāt given herāand everyone elseāplenty of reason to be distrustful of him for lifetimes to come
when aang is goofing off instead of training, zukoāinstead of communicatingāattacks him with blasts of fire, forcing aang to retaliate
the only reason why zuko is given this extreme maturity label is because his worldview was challenged and changed. whereas the other characters in the gaang already had correct worldviews and didnāt have to go through a series-long redemption arc to become good people. they were already good people, so their mistakes and shortcomings are held to higher standards than zukoās because his are viewed as stepping stones to a pending redemption. never mind all the times in which he backtracked and hurt more people. those times were all ānecessaryā for his redemption to happen and be well-done. yall can excuse all of zukoās flawed behavior by saying ābut he was redeemed! that wasnāt really his true self!ā and all that bullshit, so everything he does thatās good post-redemption gives yall this delusion that he was always this good person who is capable of making mature decisions (never mind the fact that he is still incredibly immature post-redemption and still has a long way to go in terms of unlearning his prejudices by the time the show ends)
in conclusion, yall have a weird obsession with isolating katara from all her relationships with the other characters in favor of making her zukoās one and only, and yall have deluded yourselves into thinking either one of them are incredibly mature
thatās all i gotta say āļø