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Who says Thais' love interest isn't someone we already met? :)
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Will we meet new characters besides the fairy twins? And what about Thais's love interest?
Who says Thais' love interest isn't someone we already met? :)
Hi, I love your books and I just wanted to ask if there was a particularly platonic duo you had fun writing in TLKOF ?
Ash interacting with Livvy is quite funny.
i think kevneil its the only duo i can see as: boyfriends, brothers, friends, enemies or collegues
cc: I wanted there to be things Kit didn't know about Ty's feelings, and I wanted the reader not to know them either — not yet.
also cc:
“Inside, the room was a mess on Anush's side, and neat on Ty’s.”
"Ty and Anush have gotten lost several times exploring the tunnels under the Scholomance"
Is Ty really that pretty? Hehe
People definitely comment that he's attractive in TLKOF!
people’s prince
liviablackthon asked:
Hi, Cassie! We know Kit has had some dating experience prior to TWP, which led me to wonder about Ty… has he explored his options as well? Who’s more experienced out of the two?
mayaheronthorn asked:
Hi Cassie! We know that Kit had a girlfriend - love u Hazel - and I was wondering if he dated other people in those 4 years? And most importantly, I wanna know if Ty dated someone? 💖 sending love
izzyeatsfood asked:
hi cassie!!
i got into your books in november of 2024, and it's been one of the most rewarding fandom experiences of my life. I love all the characters (especially kit and alastair, they're my shaylas) and am SUPER excited for TLKOF. I was wondering, while Kit was in london, did he date (or even just kiss) anyone other than Hazel? Thank you for your amazing books!!!!
yviintheclouds asked:
Has Ty had any romantic experiences in the time between TDA & TWP?
sherlockwaatson asked:
hi cassie! i want to say thank you for all of the content lately - it is truly giving me a reason to live and i am so grateful
my question is kind of silly but did ty date anyone between qoaad and tlkof? we know kit had a fling with hazel so i was only curious........
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Friends, Romans, countrymen/women/people. I do understand why this is a burning question. Between TDA and TWP we have missed quite a bit of Kit and Ty's lives. Dating-wise, we only know about Hazel, and that was very clearly not in any way a serious relationship.
But unfortunately, any real answer would contain spoilers. Not even just for the first book! When Ty and Kit meet again, they don't know these things about each other either — Kit doesn't know if Ty's dated or kissed anyone, and Ty only knows about Hazel. Which he genuinely has no jealous feelings about because it is pretty clear that Kit's heart was not involved there.
I did not want either Kit or Ty to feel that the situation between them was impacted by the existence of some romantic rival. It's not the case, there's no love triangle, Kit and Ty's challenges come from other things: memory and forgiveness, understanding, star-crossed challenges of the epic sort.
Ty and Kit are probably not each other's first kiss. But they definitely would be each other's first most other things. :)
hi!! i’m not sure if i’m remembering clearly but was there supposed to be a kickstarter letter from ty to kit? if so will we ever get to see it (and the rest of the letters in general)? i miss them so much 😞 tysm!
I wrote to all the people who got character letters and asked if they'd be ok with me sharing them: a lot of people said yes, but for those who said no, or who I didn't hear from, I can't post those — I'm sorry!
rip ty blackthorn you would have loved hamnet
TLKOF SAMPLER P1.2 <3
TLKOF SAMPLER PT. 1 <3
I AM FREAKING THE FUCK OUT OMFG!!!!
Hi! You recently mentioned how “some” of the POVs are Ty’s (and Ash’s) which made me wonder about the “access” we’ll have to his mind, and the reason you’ve said Ty and Ash. Meaning - you kept saying the main three are Kit, Ty and Dru, but I wonder if Ty is not as central in the sense that we get to see less of his POVs than the other two.
I do want to say - I remember you’ve discussing your reluctance with writing his POVs in TDA, because he’s a neurodivergent character, and you wanted to do him justice and not presume to write him as you do the other characters (sorry if it’s not accurate, it’s been a few years 😅). Anyway, it’s understandable and very respectful either way.. and when you said that about his POVs I wondered if that’s the reason.
Either way, I’m EAGER to get to dive into his mind, and I hope it’ll be more than a quick dip 🤓
Thanks Cassie. I can’t tell you how excited I am this is finally happening. Life right not isn’t amazing, to say the least… so it means a lot to have something good waiting around the corner. 🤍 U.
I'm so glad the book is something to look forward to. Lord knows we can all use that. :)
I've been thinking about all the discussion about this, specifically about POVs, and the questions I continue to get about who are the main characters, and I wondered: Is part of the anxiety about this because these three books have no clear protagonist?
All the other trilogies/series have a specific protagonist: Clary, Tessa, Emma, Cordelia. (TEC splits between Magnus and Alec.) The Wicked Powers has essentially four main characters, but I have never called them "four protagonists" and maybe I should.
Essentially, a protagonist is the one whose goals and choices drive the story. By this measure, all four of these characters are protagonists. Each has an equally important arc, plot-wise and emotionally. Each has a very specific destiny. [spoiler] As the prophecy we learned about in Better in Black is translated, they are the only people mentioned in it, and all of them are required for the prophecy to work. [/spoiler]
So there are actually four protagonists or main characters, and those are Kit, Ty, Dru and Ash. Yes, we see mostly Dru and Kit's POV in book 1. That doesn't mean that's the way the POVs will play out going forward; we have a lot more ground to cover! It's just how it turned out I needed to write this book.
I think essentially writers and readers come at the concept of POV from different directions. It sometimes makes me feel like I'm having difficulty translating what it's like from this side of things, but I'll try.
When you're anticipating a book but it isn't going to be out for a while, I think often there's a tendency to try to predict how it will go based on the limited information you have. Will my favorite character have enough presence in the story to make me happy? So you look to things like -- who are the POV characters? Who's on the cover or depicted in the promotional art? What can you infer from the snippets or from the jacket copy?
And unfortunately, this is not a very good way to predict what a book is going to be like or how you are going to feel about it! All the snippets and images and little bits of info like POVs or chapter titles, all added up, are a very tiny piece of a 180,000+ word book. And it's okay, of course, to anticipate and try to guess and get excited and get worried! That anticipating is a lot of the fun of waiting for a thing! But -- things like POV just in the end don't tell you very much about what a book is like, or how it's going to feel.
For writers, choice of POV is a storytelling tool. You use the tool in the way that seems best for the story. It's not about how much you like a character or whether they are central. I stayed away from a lot of Will's POV in Clockwork Angel because he had a secret I didn't want to share; regardless, I think of Will as one of the most important characters in the entire Shadowhunter series, not just TID. I ended up staying out of Ty's head a lot in LKOF because 1) he has a secret, too! and 2) there are things I want the reader to know about him that he can't know or be aware of and there is no way to convey that from his POV. We have to see it from outside because we know what he doesn't know. And 3) It's about the romance, too. I wanted there to be things Kit didn't know about Ty's feelings, and I wanted the reader not to know them either — not yet.
In TLKoF the bulk of the POVs are Dru and Kit's. But — and I know we may disagree — I don't believe POV factors that much into how important or central a character is. I do not think Ty is less of a main character in book 1 because we do not get his POV as often. I would have said that after James and Cordelia, Matthew was the most important character in The Last Hours and we never saw his POV at all.
And yes, as a neurotypical person, it is of concern to me how I write and portray Ty. I used multiple sensitivity readers to read for Ty in this book, a mix of people I know and people who do this professionally. I think people imagine that sensitivity readers are only necessary for scenes from Ty's point of view, but most of the readers' notes were on the sections not from his POV, because we learn about Ty, how he thinks and why he does things, from his behavior and his dialogue. We hear much more from him about his thoughts, feelings, emotions, habits, and the way he does things than we ever learned about him in TDA, and we learn the majority of them in scenes not from his POV.
Some people have asked if being worried about writing Ty correctly made writing his POV less positive or fun, but no, it didn't! I really love writing Ty because he has a lot of qualities I love; I'm just also worried about it. So far in LPOH his POV shows up the same amount as everyone else's and I'm enjoying it a lot.
If at the end of TLKOF you feel like you didn't get enough Ty POV and you want more, that's good — because you will get more, and at that point, there will actually be specific mysteries that you want addressed and they will be. Structurally, it didn't make sense to spend a lot of time in Ty (or Ash's) heads in LKOF, so when we do see their thoughts in LPOH, I think it's more enjoyable because we are getting the answer to what they were feeling during events we actually observed, and getting them earlier would be like reading the last page of a mystery first. (I know you're out there, people who do that! For shame! :) It's certainly more enjoyable for me as a writer to be able to hold some mystery back for maximum fun, and in the end we all do write the kind of stories we ourselves like to read and to create: we can't really do otherwise.
I'm off to Bookcon this week so not too around but I'll be back next week with some fun snippets from the Bookcon sampler! In the meantime, you have this giant novel of an answer to read.
I'm sorry if things haven't been great lately; I think it's been a pretty hard time for a lot of people and I often wonder what we'd all do without imaginary worlds to get lost in.
ty’s pov: kit kit kit kit kit kit
Do you think that in the next two books we might learn more about Thais's POV, or characters like Anush Joshi, or even possible "siblings" who are Ash's friends?And regarding Kit, do you think we'll see him forming new friendships or closer connections throughout the story?
We have Thais' POV in the first book as well as, once, the POV of one of Ash's friends. I can see why people are curious about Anush and whether Kit has friends because very little is known about what these folks have all been up to in the years in between TDA and TWP, so it is natural to speculate about people whose names you know. Might they be important to one of our folks? Thais is important to Dru, and Anush is clearly friends with Ty, but otherwise, we don't know.
And unfortunately the answer is I can't really tell you. I can say over and over that this is Kit and Ty and Dru and Ash's story and the others are supporting characters, but even then, there's going to be an attempt to figure out a heirarchy of supporting characters. I know that. :)
None of this is unusual, it's the product of waiting a long time for the continuation of a story! You start to imagine what might be in it and build theories around that. I've done it myself. I can only say that there's no way to really guess what happens in a next-book-in-a-series because there can always be a new character, location, or plotline that has never been hinted at.
I will say that TWP is something of a unique case in that not only do we have our main four, but we have Thais, Jaime, the entire cast of TMI, the entire cast of TDA, and a chunk of the cast of TID as well as characters from TEC who all have to play some part in the story and be relevant. So I think this is a slight situation of Be Careful What You Wish For. Would it be fun to get to know Anush better? Sure! Would it be worth it if it takes pages away from Kit, or Ty or Dru? Or Magnus or Alec? Or Clary or Jace or Jem or Emma? Or the meaningful development of a different complicated relationship, like the one between Kit and Ash? Because that's a real choice that has to be made — alas, books cannot have infinity pages, even if we want them to. :)
(As for Kit and friends, Kit is dealing with the issue that he is distant (by design) from most Shadowhunters, and his mundane friends (who we know about, plus the maybe werewolf girlfriend) don't know he's a Shadowhunter so he can only be limitedly close to them. The big thing he's dealing with really is what it means to be the Heir, the descendant of Auraline, and have a power that is both useful and that he resents as something that keeps him apart from most other people. It's not as if he avoids friendships entirely by choice, really.)
Who’s been your favorite one off character in TLKoF so far? (As in barley appears in more then a few scenes)
Oh, that's always fun. There's a redcap named Bonecrusher who is always in a bad mood, but it's probably Ash's friends Callen and Cuan, who are twins and while not unhinged, they are not entirely hinged either.
ash has friends 🥺
Hi Cassie! I was wondering if the Sherlock book Kit sent Ty for Christmas and the herondale necklace will come up in their conversation at some point? Just curious
They will likely discuss the Sherlock book at some point. They talk about the Herondale necklace a lot because It's the thing Magnus enchanted to strengthen Livvy and Ty's bond and Ty always wears it.
However, do they discuss that Kit basically provided the pendant to Magnus for the purpose and that Ty was supposed to have written him a thank you letter? Well, they have agreed not to discuss anything about "their past" at the beginning of the book, so they kind of talk around it. They may think about it, though.
TY DIDNT WROTE THE LETTER??
Ty, go get your man. He’s running out of people to ghost.
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