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inacatastrophicmind

“Come on, guys, I might as well suck his cock then”

#cast #deleted #all orientations

spnregular

Police Truck by Dead Kennedys

ACAB INCLUDES SAM AND DEAN WINCHESTER

#americana #compilation

blanketforcas

posting with permission on behalf of one of my friends who went to purcon halloween!

misha m&g, the most interesting things they could remember:

first of: Misha was sitting in kind of a bubble of destiel fans, with the people to both sides of him using rainbow fans for most of the m&g,

after he sat down he was told that he was sitting on something,

he slowly pulls it out from under him and it's a bag that says "they're a set don't seperate" (i wanna add earlier in the day i had seen a person with a shirt that had that line over a green and blue heart),

in the little bag were two metal hearts that are intertwined but could be extracted from another, so misha tries and does that. While doing so he talks about having adhd and his habit of fiddling stuff when he used to read lines with an older lady back in the day,

he actually gets the hearts apart relatively quickly and people tell him, there is actually more in the bag,

so he pulls out a little piece of destiel art (it's like an almost kiss kinda drawing),

misha to the person who gifted that to him: "this is porn" pause misha: no it is not porn". Person who gifted it to him: "i do have porn. I can show you porn". Other person: "rob would approve" misha: "oh would he?" Same other person: "yeah. On his podcast... he is the [dedicated?] perv. Rich said that",

moving on to questions...,

the very first question was a destiel question (from a different person, but still right next to him), about what his favorite dean and cas moment was, "it can be destiel coded. Doesn't have to",

they had to elaborate for him what destiel coded means exactly. They defined it as a scene with dean and cas alone. Maybe involving some emotional intimacy. Someone named the mixtape scene as an example

misha starts talking about how it wasn't intentional for the longest time. Also talks about how the writers put some vague stuff into it, cause of fans reactions. At some point he joked that he probably is the person at the con that knows the least about the show, cause he only has seen bits of the show. Now when he said the writer thing, someone jumped in with "the writers probably watched the show". Misha laughs and says "actually i know some of the writers did not watch the show",

he keeps talking about how going back now seeing it with the confession scene knowledge it actually tracks, that one could see it even if it wasn't exactly intentional. He goes on to say some of the lines were actually quite gay. His example: "i gripped you tight." That does sound quite gay",

misha said he and jensen also played into it at times, going "haha i bet people will read into that",

Same other person from earlier mentions the change from script to scene of dean not saying "i love you", but "i need you". They also say they think that only made it gayer than if he'd have said "i love you" Misha answers: "I see. So there was no way... by trying to make it less gay he made it gayer." (Some more back and forth between him and the people around him). Then Misha says that when the "i love you" was in the script Jensen was like "come on guys, I might as well suck his cock then". misha also called it "dean's own confession of a sort". The same other person: "when he was on his knees?" Misha: "yes" same other person's face goes something like

misha mentions that in that scene they joked around between takes. People go "yeah we know". Misha is surprised it was on the gag reel. People go "the baby daddy one right?" Misha: "yeah". Same other person: "the one with the gesticulates the head pulling to the crotch thing Misha: "yeah... i thought that was a private moment.

he looked actually surprised that was on the gag reel, hides half his face behind his tea cup staring into the air for a few seconds.,

then he goes on with "here i was thinking i'm telling you something new nobody knows and you are all 'yeah we know. We watch it all the time'" ,

(I think then we moved on from destiel. There was some googling and info of that later by one person, but yeah...),

I spent the rest of the m&g trying to burn this into my brain. This were only about maybe 10 minutes though, maybe even a little less. But it felt like forever (was great though)

#cast #tptb

scoobydoodean

Hey, so, I’m listening to SPN then & now podcast. Last episode they review the last episode of season 7. They have Bob Singer on, and he’s talking about looking forward to season 8, and he mentions that they had a huge fight in the writers room about Benny. Basically one writer dug their heels in and insisted that Dean would never be friends with a vampire, that he would have killed him as soon as they escaped purgatory. The writer threw such a fit that Singer finally had to say “you know what, we’re doing this, you don’t want to write it, fine, write something else.”

So I looked into it and the only S8 writers who didn’t write post-purgatory Benny scenes were Thompson, Glass, and Dabb. I don’t think it’s Thompson because of Charlie’s line “Did you break up with someone too?” from LARP and the real girl, like he understands this is a real relationship that Dean cares about. It could be Glass, but all I know about him is he was in an earlier episode of the podcast (to discuss his unfortunate dog episode) and seems pretty chill and humble. Also this was only his second season with the show. But Dabb/Loflin wrote an episode with a Benny flashback and then split up! And then Loflin writes Citizen Fang?! Is this what their fight was about?

Sorry this post would be better suited for my own blog if I had an active one. I just wanted to maybe get some other eyes on/opinions on my theory.

Ho ho ho! *Rubs hands together* I love the idea of an SPN writer telling on themselves that they never bothered to actually watch the fucking source material and learn that Dean risking his life to defend a vampire happens by fucking 2x03.

Okay so. I'm gonna try to do this carefully by process of elimination through all the season 8 writers.

Jeremy Carver - (8x01, 8x23) Easily eliminated from the running because he was the one doing the running. He was showrunner.

Ben Edlund - (8x05 Blood Brother, 8x13 Everybody Hates Hitler, 8x21 The Great Escapist) Another easy elimination based on "Blood Brother".

Bucklemming - (8x03 Heartache, 8x07 A Little Slice of Kevin, 8x15, 8x19 Taxi Driver) Ross-Lemming is Singer's wife, so he probably wouldn't just talk shit about her/her writing partner. Plus 8x19 contains Dean and Benny's emotional goodbye with Dean promising to bring Benny back, and telling Sam he buried Benny instead of burning his bones in the hopes he would come back someday. This attitude from Dean is fundamentally at odds with the position of the writer described.

Adam Glass - (8x06 Southern Comfort, 8x12 As Time Goes By, 8x18 Freaks and Geeks) 8x06 opens with Sam and Dean arguing about Benny, and Dean pointing out that they just let Kate the werewolf go with zero issues. 8x18 seems to eliminate Glass from the running completely, given Dean defends innocent vampires again in this episode.

Robbie Thompson - (8x04 Bitten, 8x11 LARP and the Real Girl, 8x17 Goodbye Stranger, 8x20 Pac Man Fever). I agree with you about the breakup line about Benny from 8x11. Additionally, in 8x04, Sam and Dean let Kate the Werewolf go and they're both in agreement on it from the beginning. Sam actually provides all the caveats to letting her go. Dean is barely paying attention, focused on Kate and her friends claiming he says "awesome" too much. Zero worries about Kate.

Jenny Klein - (8x10 Torn and Frayed) I debated on this one a little more, but ultimately, I doubt it was Klein for two reasons. First, because she only contributed 1 episode to season 8, and it was her fourth credit in the whole series (1 episode writer credit each for season 5, 6, and 7. I doubt she would dig her heels in in the writer's room (if she was even there for this) against Carver and Singer. Second, there is also another fight between Sam and Dean over Benny at the beginning of her episode, 8x10, which splits them up when Dean refuses to agree to cut ties with Benny after Sam issues an ultimatum. So despite Sam getting to pretend he's been so horribly wronged and that he did nothing wrong (which in itself just ends up reflecting poorly on him since he won't hear Dean out about Martin), I don't think it was Klein.

This leaves, as predicted, Dabb and Loflin by process of elimination.

Andrew Dabb - (8x02 w/Loflin, 8x08 Hunteri Heroici, 8x14 Trial and Error, 8x22 Clip Show)

Daniel Loflin - (8x02 w/Dabb, 8x09 Citizen Fang, 8x16 Remember The Titans)

Dabb and Loflin are also particualrly good candidates. In fact. I am 100% sure based on the story that this is about Dabb.

First, unlike Klein, Dabblin would be comfortable throwing their weight around, because they were credited as producers by this point.

Second, prior to season 8, one of their episodes was the infamous "7x03 The Girl Next Door". Maybe one of them felt they had constructed some sort of seminal work there (lmaooo) and felt that Benny's existence was somehow "undoing" that.

Third, and most importantly, Citizen Fang would have been an important episode for the season, because it temporarily splits the brothers up. The writers room would have wanted to assign this episode as soon as possible and had it being worked on. If Dabb and Loflin were assigned this episode or if, Loflin really wanted this episode and Dabb really really didn't because he fundamentally disagreed with the idea that Dean would protect a vampire and that that would put him at odds with Sam, then that would finally explain Dabblin's sudden split after four seasons of co-authorship, and Singer's particular wording "you don’t want to write it, fine, write something else".

The idea of Benny causing them to split as a writing team because Dabb refused to be party to Citizen Fang is fascinating.

Nothing about Citizen Fang shows confusion or handwringing regarding Dean's moral position on Benny. His attitude is extremely consistent. Loflin seems extremely certain of how Dean feels about Benny and the ethics of protecting him and shows him justifying his position without compromise.

#tptb #dabb

not-supernatural

9:12pm... lazarus rising finished airing 12 minutes earlier

dean-you-assbutt-cas-loves-you

one of the very first destiel fics ever written (might be the very first) - posted before midnight sept 18th

Up From Perdition By: Vain 9/18/2008 o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o Standard Disclaimer: I own nothing except the plot. S

#classic #audience

wellofdean

I got this one hobby horse, and god knows I'm gonna saddle up and ride it: Supernatural was a legitimately good show and it was queer as hell in its very bones.

wellofdean

got these tags today from prev: #i think it's beautiful bc it didn't set out to be queer#life uh finds a way#it's not the best television ever#like not legit among the greats#but it had some incredible moments

And like... I have made a LOT of posts, at great length saying why I think Dean was always imagined as a queer character, and where the queerness was baked into the DNA of the show from episode one, and which I will not reprise here, but as much as I disagree that the queer glory of Supernatural is something it tripped and fell into by accident somehow, and without everyone involved knowing that queerness was part of what they were making, I do agree with something here: it's beautiful because it was a fucking journey.

Supernatural was not like today's prestige television with a tight 8-10 episodes and a fully planned narrative from day one, it was old-timey TV that arose out of things like Twin Peaks and The X-Files, falling somewhere between a weekly procedural and a serial. It had broad plot arcs sketched out, but the day-to-day grind of writing and making it was driven by characters that took on depth and meaning as it went along; network television long seasons with lots of filler that did nothing to further the serial plot, but let us get to know the characters, who became more and more lovable and real the more time we spent with them, in an organic way.

Maybe my Gen-X is showing here, but there's something beautiful about something that feels open-ended, isn't there? I mean, Supernatural STILL feels open-ended. Like, any moment now patient zero Jensen is going to suit up and tell us more of Dean's story, and we won't know where it's going and it will be fucking GREAT just to spend any time whatsoever with Dean? Television nowadays feels so PLANNED and yeah, there's some great stuff out there, but Supernatural had something special and fucking great that doesn't really exist anymore.

Like, what does it mean "one of the best" or "legit among the greats"? Supernatural was 15 years of storytelling, and for all the fucking kvetching on this, the Supernatural website, about its vagaries, it was pretty consistently well written. Jensen Ackles is a legit great actor who is seriously underrated for his sheer fucking craft, and as much as it is undeniable that Supernatural has some genuinely silly episodes, taken as a whole, when all of it is in your mind, the themes and threads in it are unironically epic in scope, and it has legitimately interesting things to say about those themes. AND it has incredible moments. AND the most devastaingly romantic love story I can think of.

Like, fellas, it's one of the best TO ME. It's legit among MY greats, and I would argue it deserves a place up there.

wellofdean

More notes! First this from @ananke-xiii:

And also these notes from @greywrenn> #and just the amount of love and care that went into making this show#in case all the conventions hadn't proved that to you#go listen to spn then and now#it's honestly incredible how much they did with a cw show budget#and how everyone from the sound guys to the one-off guest stars gave it their all#spn is a good show#it's a great show!#and tbh the fact that there are parts that aren't perfectly polished#are why it's so engaging#it's a playground not a manicured lawn#i know which one i'd rather play in

And like, YES. I know this post is somehow engaged with "good/bad" discourse but like, what do we mean by "good/bad"? What is our metric? Do we mean worthy of being considered seriously? Containing interesting and instructive use of elements of the televisual medium? Do we mean culturally significant? Do we mean an accurate mirror of something in our collective souls? Do we mean containing and developing themes that are important in a humanist sense? If we mean any of those things, then Supernatural is "good".

But, maybe we mean "taking up space in our hearts and minds", and being worthy of it. If that's what we mean, then Supernatural definitely takes up space, but the the only ones who can answer whether it's worthy or not is each of us. There is nothing objective about that.

I will say this, though: I do not understand the urge to denigrate the things that resonate in our own hearts and minds. It's like denigrating our own hearts and minds??? Does Supernatural take up real estate in your soul? Does thinking about it give you pleasure and help you understand yourself, the world and your place in it in some way? In that case, IT WAS GOOD.

deancasforcutie

#supernatural is good #supernatural #100% agree! (via @lazarusthirsting)

#spn #a good show #why would I rewatch it so very many times if it was bad? (via @grievingdeanwinchester)

#yeah 😌 #that's it that's my show (via @thevioletcaptain)

#hell yeah brother (gn) (via @postmodernmulticoloredcloak)

#spn is a good show actually #reblogging for some excellent additions (via @ahundredbillionheavens)

#audience

angelswatchingover

#tptb #thesis

spnscripthunt-inactive

erickripke1: "Happy 20 years, Supernatural. This doc is from April 2005, my pitch to the network of what I wanted the first eps to be after the pilot. Bloody Mary is the only one that stuck. Honestly, these would have been bangers. I had just turned 31, way too young to run a show. I was terrified. But I had the amazing Bob Singer, who taught me everything I know about producing and show running. David Nutter, one of the kindest people I've ever met, directing a brilliant pilot and being a trusted advisor throughout the first season. And then Peter Johnson, Phil Sgriccia, John Shiban, Jerry Wanek, Serge Ladouceur, the late great Kim Manners, and so many more, all genuine geniuses who made the show what it was and covered for my early fuck ups.

Unsung executives like Peter Roth, Susan Rovner, Clancy Collins-White, Melinda Hage, Stephanie Groves, Chad Kennedy, Michael Roberts, and too many others to count, who supported the show at every turn. And most importantly, @jaredpadalecki and @jensenackles, whose immediate and obvious bond from the very beginning was magic to watch. I saw it on the pilot (shooting the scene on the bridge) and knew it was going to work. We added so many other brilliant actors — @jumblejimstagram @misha @realmarksheppard and all the others, you know who you are, thanks for being family. Never could I have dreamed as a baby showrunner, that the show would touch that many people, and most importantly, put that much good in the world, thanks to the Jared, Jensen, Misha and the cast, who grew up into such fine, generous, kind men.

I guess we all grew up on that show. It'll always be my first TV love, I am who I am because of that show. Thanks to you, the fans, for loving it so passionately back then and loving it now, 20 years later. I can never express how grateful I am. Thank you. Happy 20th."

#tptb

curioussubjects

the thing the supernatural-as-meme mentality is that it robs you of the richness of its story. with 326 episodes, there's now way that every single one of them will be amazing, that with 15 seasons all of them will be equally well crafted, but taken in aggregate those 326 episodes across 15 seasons of television tell a story that is so layered and nuanced.

supernatural is a story about recovery, about healing and self-acceptance. about standing up to repressive authority even when it seems hopeless. it's a show that's interested in how people create meaning, not only of the world around them but of their own selves, and how the two relate. constantly, supernatural orbits the tension of the self vs. the other. it asks: what do we owe ourselves? what do we owe each other? what do we owe those who will come after we are gone? and above all: supernatural is a story about the transformative power of love, in all its forms.

the show is tenacious in its themes. it holds on to them even in the face of the limitations of television as a medium, and executive meddling. but you have to do the work. supernatural-as-meme would have you believe anything good about it is coincidence, serendipity. sure, there's quite a lot of serendipity in how some things in supernatural have worked out (how could it not? it's a long-running collaborative piece of art), but at its core, supernatural is very intentional. it weaves a rich tapestry of subtext, intertextuality, environmental storytelling, character acting, etc; and in doing so requires the viewer to do the work of parsing it all out -- with bonus points if you can watch it in context of how television is made.

it's is a show for people who truly, deeply, love stories. people who like figuring out how they work, why they work. it invites you to think about it, all the time, in all its sillyserious, campy, complex glory.

it's a fairy tale, it's a procedural, it's a family drama, it's a romance, it's a myth, it's an epic, it's a comedy and a tragedy. sometimes it's disappointing. frustrating, too. but if i had to say, one way or the other, i'd say supernatural is a damn good show.

10/10 do recommend.

samcas

A GUYde 2 sam winchesTRE BY SUPERneterl fandem

Sam born. Sam drink demon blood becuz evul. Evul baby eyes. Open mouth, asking 4 it.

sEM TAKE aLL dean’s food n money. sam TAKE LAST LUCKY CHARMS. leave dean 2 whore self on streats. (plz don’t pay attenshun 2 pasgettios dat dean trow aWAY. dean staARVING.)

*yrs peSS BY OF BITCHIN N MOANING*

Sam leave 4 college THE SELFISH BASTARD. knoWLEDGE? BETTER LIFE? NO!!!11 stay n hunT 5EVER. NO WANTING BETTER 4 SELF.

SAM NOT APPRECIATE DEAN’S EMF METRE!!11 Deen made dat with own 2 HANDS and gluED TOGETHER with jizz. ungratefull broder sem.

sem dick kill da ladiez lulx dix of death!! joke abt dis 4 next 8 sesun

sam get salf kilt. dean hef to sacrifise self for stupidly mortel sam. HE DO DIS CUZ JAWN GAVE HEEM NO SHOISE. instilled in him 4rom childhud, not love sam. sam burden.

sem tortured for months by gabreel so fany. gabreEL KILL DEAN MENY TIME. sam nat save him, wy so incapeble sAM???? nat luve dean hard enuf. sam/gabreel fany ship good ship. so flaffy.

dean die n sam go to disneyworld and hEF ice cream in palacial palace. he looored womin ruby into sex cave and offered hES BODY. man whore while dean rut in grev.

***drink luts of demUN BLOOD 4 FUN AND TASTY TASTE***

den com beck anD WHERE SAM??? FUN TIMES WITH ROOBY DATS WHRE. sam dumb 4 letting hur trick him he know allllllll along.

deaan rite and sam wurssst brother. sesun pass of sam being ungretful and stoopid. den sam jump in hell 4 torture and fun with sETEN AND MAKE IT ALL ABOUT HIM. NUT ALL ABOUT U SAM. (setEN IS SO COOL AND LUV SAM. WANT BEST FOR SAM N TORTURE HIM FOR OWN GOOD. SAM/LUCIFER OOOTP)

sam now robosem and keep robonesss sekrit. why???????? becuz evul. robo sam keel pepul and hef no moral SOOO MUCH BETER DAN SAM. plz sem stay in da ceg.

sam com out booo. cas brake sem wall cuz sem deserve. cAS SHULD APOLOGIZE 2 DEN 4 BRAKE SAM-TOY. sam-toy sometimes usefull many times nut.

sam coma WHY SLEEPIN SAM?? LAZY besterd.

sesun 7 tim e fur man whur sam to get laID LUL BACKY SO FUNY. sam express concurn 4 dean s depreshun no1 rrmbre dis. uncaring bruder, nat JUST ABUT UR FuN WITH HALLUCIFER U KNO!! lol bunk buddy i kne he have 4un in cage.

SAM LEEF DEAN IN PURGATORY WHY SA,M? SELfish dats why. “”“‘normal lyfe with gurl”“” ameeela mean 2 sam and haraass him to irresponsiebly take dog. AMELIA HATERS ARE WOMIN HATER.

beny teem up w/ deen for ride out of purgatory: beter bruder dan sam ever WAS. sem cuckbluck sesun gr8 destieL. homphobe SaM.

sAM STEAL TRAYUL FRUM DEAN. WANT ALL DA SICKNESS FOR SALF. mytharc 4 dean feathers 4 castiel death 4 sem.

sam get sloooowly sick, WNY NUT FESTER SAM? den want 2 die and expresse he want 2 die and dat he tiNKS HE LOWEST OF LOW. nUT ALL ABUT U SEM!!! WHY U NO WANT DEEAN TO HEF FRANDS??? DEN PERSUN 2. U LIED ABOUT BEING SULLESS AND MANWHORE SALF TO ROOOBY. wunt demun blud again don’T YOU? want 4from birth. suck all heppiness from Den since u born. caas give den sew mach more heppiness like romanteek allewey scene. #feels #forever

next sesusn if sem nat arund sesun fine. if sem even talk sesun nein!!!!111

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