Tanya's Soapbox

Hello! Tanya here! (She/Her) Welcome to my soapbox where fangirling and unfiltered thoughts about the things I love rule! Enjoy!:-) Celebrating 15 years of the Soapbox ! Est. November 24,2010

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I worry about the mental state of the people posting on Sailor Moon Reddit. ( Post)

I really really do.

Edit: It's been removed.

But this whole comment thread is gold.

I can't stand chewymewn either.

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I know I am super late on this but I finally watch it via tiktok and I was laughing so hard.

The jokes are actually funny and references are good.

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So we are going to continue having the same conversation.

What is Character Development in the 90's anime look like?

Character Development that actually sticks throughout the series and not just one episode, one arc, or one season.

From Episode 1 to 200.

From Dark Kingdom Arc to StarS Arc

From Sailor Moon Classic to Sailor Moon StarS

Not a lesson learned and then forgotten later on.

So what is actual Character Development in the 90's anime?

I will continue to ask this because I want a solid answer with proof.

Not just saying "Oh they got Character Development in the 90's anime than the Manga" with no evidence backing your claim.

Actual Episodes and Pics where the character development is visible and sticks.

Give that to me and I back down.

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So we are going to continue having the same conversation.

What is Character Development in the 90's anime look like?

Character Development that actually sticks throughout the series and not just one episode, one arc, or one season.

From Episode 1 to 200.

From Dark Kingdom Arc to StarS Arc

From Sailor Moon Classic to Sailor Moon StarS

Not a lesson learned and then forgotten later on.

So what is actual Character Development in the 90's anime?

I will continue to ask this because I want a solid answer with proof.

Not just saying "Oh they got Character Development in the 90's anime than the Manga" with no evidence backing your claim.

Actual Episodes and Pics where the character development is visible and sticks.

Give that to me and I back down.

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So guys

Whats the difference between this

and this

Same thing

Different font

But yall swear they have character development when the 90's anime just recycled themselves..

Because she doing the exact same thing she did in the first season in the last. Nothing has changed.

Like this

this

this

Same thing different front

This

and

This

Same thing Different Front

This

and

This

Same thing Different front

This

and

This

Is the same thing

But Stars is worst because they didn't have a chance to fight back and this.

" Sailor Moon and yall are important to us so instead of us doing our job to protect her we are going to let yall do it." ( But for some reason the Manga Senshi gets shitted on when they say she is important to them and they die trying to protect her and certainly not trying to pass the buck to someone else.)

Even This

This

This

and this

Is the same thing

But some how the manga gets accused of reheating nachos when the 90's anime did it all the time....

I know yall get upset becasue the main character gets the most character development but

Dark Kingdom

Stars

And Yes the Girls get development too ( Getting Long so just doing Ami)

Dark Kingdom

During Infinity, Exam Battle

Stars

Dark Kingdom Ami would have not ripped her paper in half if someone scored higher than her which StarS Ami do. She would have not shown emotion the way she show in Stars. Also seeing her run a tight ship when comes to them studying instead of just saying " Oh we got to study" Seeing her being concerned about Mako not getting enough sleep

Ami is one of the most introverted characters in the series and by the end of the series she is showing emotion.

That is character development.

She just not screaming " Oh Hey the only thing I'm good at is academics."

Every inner senshi have a page where they introduce themselves to the reader like Usagi do.

But still no character development in the manga……

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You know my " You are a hater post"?

Here you go with pics.

You are a hater if you say " That's why you got dumped" then in a another episode on tease me in my FACE about being dumped then have the AUDACITY to give me advice to trust the guy that you just tease me about dumping me. ( Episode 70)

You are a hater if you say a monkey or a piece of clothing is prettier than me. ( Episode 13, 61)

You are a hater if you slap me in my face, call me a coward when I'm going through a traumatic experience just as much as you are. ( Episode 35)

You are hater of you tell me my boyfriend would be embarrassed about my grades and need to get them up for his sake but not for my own. The proceed to say my only good trait is cheering up which is backhanded when you said earlier I had many traits. ( Episode 90)

You are a hater of you asked my boyfriend in my face to buy you food. (Episode 93)

You are a hater of you sit here and eat the pie with me but want to act high and mighty and throw me under the bus. Want me to take accountability but you don't. ( Episode 107)

You are a hater when you eat my birthday cake and dinner without saving me shit while I am running for my life with my boyfriend.(Episode 101)

You are hater to call me a clumsy crybaby when you supposed to be helping me get my broach back so I can transform.( Episode 102)

You are a hater if you get mad at me for looking at my Boyfriend at our date that you with the other decide to crash. ( Episode 93)

You are hater when I can't get two words out my mouth before you say some backhanded bullshit.

You are a hater if you are telling to tell this person I have a boyfriend when all I been saying since this person showed up is that fact. After that person dropped their emotional baggage on me after I broke down.

You are a hater for calling me a crybaby, lazy, goofball ,dumpling head, and everything else but the child of god.

Rei is Usagi's biggest opp and I don't care they had " Come to Jesus" moments here and there.

( Really when the plot permits because most of these are plot pivotal moments when they have to act nice.Even that You too sweet comment can be backhanded too.)

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Your posts are so refreshing. It feels impossible to find good takes in the Sailor Moon community, so thank you! To say the "90s anime is more about the friendship" is a WHACK claim when the 90's anime is the only place you see Rei treating Usagi TERRIBLY, like she is so MEAN to her, CONSISTENTLY. Real Rei might be a little snarky, but she's never that mean. Sometimes I feel like the people who have these critiques of the manga/Crystal have never actually engaged with either, with the exception of a few out-of-context panels 😮‍💨

Thank you!!

I am constantly trying to understand why people are like that.

Why people say the 90's more about the friendships and act like in the manga they don't hang out but just fight.

I debuked that last week when I pulled out 44 pages of them hanging out together.

The last episode of the 90's anime,the last moments after 200 episodes are calling their “best friend” slow because she is still putting up boundaries for someone who is still trying to break them and put themselves in the narrative.

The break up arc when you could have showed the friendships at the highest peak you have Rei telling her " That's why you got dumped"," Mamoru dumped you remember?" and then give her the most shittest advice. Also the other three acting " Oh he had his reasons." instead of being the support she needs.

I got post for days showing how they act towards Usagi.

But the friendships..

The closest Manga Rei went to saying something mean to Usagi was

Act 8 when she told her to stop fangirling over Mina and Act 38 saying it was a grading error in her exams. Which was also the only time they really roasted Usagi as well.

That's it. You can't say that about the 90's anime Rei.

But someone got mad at me for pointing this out..

I still wonder with the people have those critiques actually read the manga for real even tho some claim their did.

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Trying to do a poll/survey on Sailor Moon don't even know the core demographic.

Jesus take the damn wheel...

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The reunion scene in Stars Manga is just 

Like tears and hugs fucking everywhere! 

Usagi is running towards the girls and they are running towards her. 

Look at Mina and Hotaru!

They are telling her how they miss her, how her strength kept calling to them and how she did it.  Like they are absolutely proud of her and knew she could do it. How she’s so freaking happy to have her family back.. 

Meanwhile in the 90′s anime…. 

Let’s stand in a circle in the air while she’s naked and have the only person she runs and hugs Mamo and no one else! 

Also telling her good job and thank you.. 

Yall freaking died and all yall going to do is stand in a freaking circle and not even hug the girl who saved yall? 

Not even a group hug?? 

It just feels so freaking formal… 

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In the 90's anime, I always hated how the other kept comparing Usagi to her past incarnation and saying she wasn't good enough for Mamo, like, "You're not as graceful as Princess Serenity, that's why you're not good enough for Mamoru!" For once, I just wanted Usagi to say, "Well, you're not as competent as your past selves, otherwise you would actually stand a chance against monsters."

Meanwhile Princess Serenity in the 90′s anime had zero personality ( which I have talked about before)  aside from recklessly jumping in the air when Beryl attacked trying to be with Endymion which got her killed .. 

I have to talk about this for a moment for ALL the people who want it get in Manga/Crystal Serenity neck for commiting sucide and not once said nothing about this. 

Meticlia blows him away 

Which khocks her to ground

He tells her to stay back  because he knew that it was pretty much over for him and maybe still want to protect her but does she listen? 

She runs and jumps to be with him... 

and both got hit with Metallia blast and killing them. 

Which is still a Romeo and Juliet vibe anyway but it seem like this ok because they took away her killing herself but you still got her acting recklessly by jumping to him to be with him. Knowing that both of them was about to get killed...  

Which pretty much summed up to be

“ I don’t care if I die as long as I die with you.”  

But that’s not seen as being selfish but romantic meanwhile Manga/Crystal Serenity is seen as selfish 

Also with the Manga and Crystal I think at this point I think the senshi was killed so by the time Endymion dies protecting her and she takes the sword and kills herself which she knows everyone she loves minus her Mom is gone. Everything she have loved and known is gone in one night. 

With the 90′s anime it shown that the Senshi attacked Metallia which their attacks fails and they all got killed by Metallia with one blow. But due to the fact the 90′s anime really fail to show any interaction between PS and the Senshi we don’t even know they were all close aka Sisters compared the Manga and Even Crystal that shows us. ( They didn’t even show them at the ball. It was just one shot of them taking on Metallia.) So it literary can be a Employer/Employer type realtionship in the 90′s anime between PS and the Senshi. ( Which makes sense how they acted in the present but the 90′s anime has the best friendships..)   

Which would ask make sense why they was all “ Serenity is more graceful than you” because if they wasn’t close to her and she wasn’t to them they wouldn’t know her quirks and she would react. If their realtionship was more professional and not personal like it was in Manga/Crystal/ PGSM. 

So we going to sit here and railroad a grief stricken Manga/Crystal Serenity for killing herself after her whole world has fell apart in front of her eyes who felt like that was her only option but not say nothing about 90′s Serenity which yes her world was falling apart as well but who freaking jumped off the balcony to be with him and got herself killed?

 I aint touching PGSM Princess Serenity lol 

Princess Sailor Moon was my shit! lol 

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I don't know why but when every single time someone says on the line " Oh Crystals was about the romance while the 90's anime was about the " friendships" I side eye.

The friendships are in the manga and crystal. Just because you don't have them saying mean things to Usagi or each other doesn't mean the friendships are not there.

Also the 90's anime don't have the best version of the girl's friendships.

PGSM do.

To the point that the real testament to that is the fact the five main girls now who are now women who played the Sailor Senshi are still friends( well sisters) to this day. 20 years after PGSM premiered.

Someone Birthday? They together

Someone Getting Married? They together

Someone having a baby? They together

Someone doing a new project? They supporting

Something dealing with Sailor Moon ( Museum etc) They are hanging out.

So

PGSM IS THE BEST VERSION FOR CHARACTER DEVEOPLMENT AND SENSHI FRIENDSHIPS!

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I just dont get it as I read the manga.

These girls are friends to each other.

They behave like friends.

They behave like they love to be around each other and love each other.

They go to bat for each other.

Everyone is so nice to each other.

Why people act like there is no real friendship between them in the manga while they say in the 90's anime there is?

Why they act like Usagi treat them like they just are her " ladies in waiting" and not the girls that she would go to the ends of the universe to get back?

That they act like these girls have no choice in " protecting" her and they are not honestly do it because she would do the same thing for all of them?

Or dare to say that Manga and Crystal are about the romance while the 90s anime is about the friendships.

Like I am missing something?

Because sometimes in the 90's anime, I have to question do they even like her let alone are friends with her.

Its almost like they become " friends" with her but are friends with each other but not her.

They act like they can barely tolerate her.

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Calling StarS arc in the manga basic is fucking laughable.

Calling a interstellar conflict where

The main character have to save her friends and the world from a senshi who is just as powerful as she is. A senshi who was blowing up planets before she came to earth.

Who has been breaking her down piece by piece by systemically killing her friends starting with the love of her life and going down the pipeline of her friends.

For that person to promise girls from different planets who want to be a senshi, powers to be senshi if they get their star seeds but was never going to go through with that promise. ( That's the real tragedy but yall to focus of them being only there for two seconds to realized they was just pawns anyway.)

Speaking of Star Seeds, to find out they are pretty much the soul of a person where if they are taken, the body turns into dust.

To travel to ends of the universe along with the new allies she found to get her friends back.

Those said allies gave up their lives for her in for order to get her friends back.

Have to fight the corpses of those said friends and destroy them since their Star Seeds are not in their body anymore

To finding out the person who is fucking with you is working for the entity who have been gunning for you and your power ever since you come into your power. Hell, Ever since you were born the first time from the place all stars are born.

To realize the enemies you fought before an extension of that entity which yall are essentially kin to each other.

To throwing yourself into where Stars are born to cleanse that place from the darkness and get your friends back.

To find out you are ever going to be in a constant battle with that entity since they represent dark and you represent light which one need the other. With her probably have to see her friends and family die again.

as basic??

Also lets not forget, the main character feels like she's at FAULT for everything happening to her friends and the world because not only the power that she didn't ask for in the beginning but for her whole freaking existence.

But that is basic...

In the words of Andre 3000 "Y'all Don't Wanna Hear Me, You Just Wanna Dance."

"Y'all Don't Wanna Hear Me"=Naoko/The Manga

"You Just Wanna Dance"=The 90's Anime

Because for some reason yall can't understand the concepts the manga give ( Y'all Don't Wanna Hear Me) but yall scream fleshed out character development, personality and friendships for the 90's anime when it does the bare minimum. (You Just Wanna Dance.)

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Since the manga..

Act 5

This is what you get by just watching the dic dub and now acting shellshocked when you watch Crystal.

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why is this post completely broken in every way imaginable

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Broken notes… deactivated account… removed image….

Finally, we have them all.

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In addition: OP’s name is just… gone. No “[insert username]-deactivated[insert a bunch of numbers]” as is the standard for deactivated blogs.

Just the world “deactivated.” Look upon their post, ye mighty, and despair.

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It’ll be almost impossible to find this post unless it wanders across your dash.

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It wandered across mine. I shall help it travel forward.

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this is not a place of honor

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Oh hey post of Ozymandius, good to see you again standing on your feet in a desert where no one remembers you

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Does anyone else think that Endymion was having nightmares of the fall of the Silver Millennium months beforehand but they were so vague that he couldn’t prepare for the inevitable in enough time to stop any of it?

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As in Gaston? Yes

As in The Beast/Prince Adam? Hell No