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[nolabballgirl]

no, i’m sorry but justifying your creative team’s bad decision making by saying your young actors agreed to it and so it’s okay is such a bad playbook move out of the skamverse. and yet we see it come up again and again.

we saw the same move with race and religion in the sana seasons and in seasons with a poc main in which any criticism was swatted away with “oh the actor would never agree to star in this story if they thought the depiction was damaging, etc.” or “xyz actress is muslim so this storyline is okay.”

when in reality, these are young actors just starting out their careers. who holds the power here? certainly not ayumi or flavie or even low ranking members of the crew who may also be of that minority representation. no one wants to get the reputation of being difficult especially in the film/tv industry. have we not heard these stories during #MeToo of how being outspoken has damaged one’s career?

so then for shirley to try that same move here is gross and demeaning. like girl, be unlike your avatar tiff and actually own up to your mistakes.

[moments-au-crayon22]

[flodaya]

Feeling kinda bad for the mailin actress like imagine seeing all the negative reaction at the possibility of your character being the main 🥴

I will absolutely guarantee her season will have more views than fatou and isi’s so she’ll be fine, it’s nothing against her specifically but the choice of main deserves criticism

[norwaydumpsterfireremakes]

Not to be rude or take over Flora, lol, but I also think like… it’s imperative for white actors to see criticism (negativity, whatever you want to call it) about their characters are being centered and highlighted especially when it’s at the expense of characters/actors of color. I think that part of confronting white privilege is really recognizing, owning, and trying to do something about the fact that white people will get rewarded or get opportunities that people of color won’t get

I’m not saying that Mailin’s actress could’ve boycotted the show unless Ish got S8 lol, but like… there are so many times when even just acknowledging that white actors have opportunities that actors of color don’t get (especially when they’re marginalized on multiple axises) results in people sympathizing with the white actors or making excuses? (Eg, “it’s because of talent”!) When in reality this is something white actors should be actively talking about and grappling with

Like it’s not the same thing but two major examples that come to mind are from SkamIt and Eskam. Soooo many people were like “hate on Wana, not on Beatrice” and it’s like… no? I will “hate” on Beatrice because she actively made the choice to audition for and play a Muslim WoC, like she wasn’t forced to do that. Or when all of the white Eskam actresses were tapped to do that Bershka ad without Hajar until the second round of ads like… they could’ve said no! They could’ve pushed to have Hajar included but they didn’t

No shade at all anon, I just think its really… flagrant that white actors (especially ones who have had roles… that deal with racism… lmao) get to ignore the realities of their position while actors of color are constantly reminded of their marginalization

(*We’re talking about race here but it absolutely also applies to other forms of oppression, especially through intersectional lenses - and fwiw the majority of actors of color in the Skamiverse should also be thinking about this cause it’s not an accident that the majority of mains of color / LI of color benefit from colorism, featurism, and texturism)

[torisprjngs]

urm… spoiler anon come spoil as much as you want in my asks/messages, i’m tired, cool ty x

[torisprjngs]

people calling this ooc for maya clearly don’t remember mercredi 12h56 and the iconic greta thunberg line from lola 😐 she’s clearly upset and unable to process her emotions and therefore lashing out in a way that’s self destructive aka doing what 99.9 % of skamverse mains have done 🧍🏾

[torisprjngs]

not okay rn

[torisprjngs]

mr inci…

[torisprjngs]

some of y’all weren’t here for samstag 20:55 and it shows

[torisprjngs]

just gonna leave the following facts here:

the queer party event today is called “holy rainbow night” a pun for the christmas song “oh holy night” which we know is “oh helga natt” in norwegian

since the trailer dropped, people have been making comparisons between matteo and isi, not necessarily as mains but more as how similar their trailers were (flashing matteo/ismail in yellow and black, quotes/phrases on screen, trailer literally being clips of characters from previous season talking about matteo/ismail)

the gig starts at nine which gives them the opportunity to do an ohn paralell/21:21.

this is season seven episode nine and ohn happened in season three episode nine

[flodaya]

head empty just appreciating druck sibling relationships

[torisprjngs]

i know i have made shit talking druck my full time job recently but that is on pause for a little while because saschisi are childhood friends to lovers and that is my brand

[torisprjngs]

currently mourning what the lou x ismail friendship could’ve been

[flodaya]

head empty just appreciating druck sibling relationships

[torisprjngs]

i’ve been rewatching this season over the past few days and controversial opinion, it’s actually decent. crazy, i know, just bear with me. the main issue with this season isn’t the material itself, it’s how the material has been presented/developed.

examples:

love triangle to help isi understand the difference between platonic admiration and romantic infatuation? brilliant. making it last five weeks with little to nothing else in the background? unbearable

sascha being neglected by isi to highlight their tendency to be a bad friend and connecting this to a toxic friendship where isi is the victim? big brain. only focusing on it properly seven weeks in? painful

presenting a non-binary main who feels like they have to fit into multiple different boxes to please people around them? never done before in the skamverse. not taking time to continually develop this (even if only in the background) so it would make more sense later on in the season? no words.

ava apology? fucking finally. making it a single sub four minute clip? rage inducing, ava bby u deserve sm better

isi finally apologising to sascha for all they’ve done to him, recognising that they need to change and making a conscious effort to do so? brilliant self awareness. doing this but neglecting to properly focus on the beautiful black girl who’s gone through the same thing and been hurting for over a year? will piss me off forever

bringing back an old gen non cishet character to help a new gen non cishet character? probably the sexiest idea they had in that writer’s room. not following through with the queer party clip and not coming back to it since episode 6? when they catch these hands-

highlighting the struggle of umut understanding the changing identity of isi especially when he’s constantly in a toxic masculine environment (football)? so so smart. solving it in one conversation after a sudden character development from isi? frustrating.

childhood friends to lovers? bro sign me up. developing it properly at a time where sascha is barely on screen? no one hmu im mourning

my point here is, the writers genuinely had the right idea when developing this season and if you rewatch the season from beginning to now, especially episode seven, you can see it.

these writers have clearly never written for skam before and we’re so used to the format but it’s actually very different to all other forms of tv writing because content has to come out constantly and you have to think of social media and how these characters’ relationships change all the time and in REAL TIME.

i just dont think they realise how short ten weeks is: in under three months you have to constantly present and develop stories for the main to make the season well rounded and hope the audience feel like they’ve learnt something. but also how long ten weeks is: focusing on one thing (eg the love triangle) is fine, but you have to have something(s) going on in the background too that are being equally developed so your audience doesn’t get bored/tired of constantly seeing specific characters.

[piaheinrichgf]

Oh, so we're having a whole conversation about whether or not Ismail is a good person and we're not mentioning Ava once?

Got it.

[torisprjngs]

honestly kinda mad that druck ruined lou for me bc her home life’s a lil bit too similar to mine 😑

[torisprjngs]

im purposely going to forget all my critical thinking skills and pretend this makes sense narratively