I didnât want to get into the fight between transmascs and transfems on this site but I wholeheartedly believe both sides are wrong for different reasons and it pisses me off to see an argument where neither side is winning and theyâre both wrong. It just rubs me off the wrong way.
I am intersex, and transfem. I have had unique experiences of my own regarding transphobia and intersexism. (I wonât even go into detail about how some trans people use intersex people as some kind of rhetoric to back up their arguments.) I have experienced transmisogyny, I am targeted by transmisogyny.
I donât want people to call me a âbirthday boyâ because I disagree with them. I also donât want people to call me whatever they call transfems they donât like. If you do, whatever argument you have against me will get ignored.
The most absurd thing in this whole argument is that transfems believe trans men have male privilege. The most absurd thing in this whole argument is that transmascs believe theyâre oppressed because theyâre transitioning to a more *masculine gender*, not because theyâre *transitioning*.
Hereâs one thing I have learned: In the social hierarchy, with cis men at the âtopâ of it, you can only go down. You can only lose privilege, not gain it. You were born a cis woman and now youâre a trans man, youâre still in the same place, just from a different angle. You didnât go up the ladder. You didnât gain the male privilege cis men have.
This is essential to understand before I go further into my argument. If you donât agree, then congratulations, you live in an utopia. If people could gain privilege by just appearing masc it would be easier, for them, at least.
Now, letâs move to the more complex part of it: the âkill all menâ movement is an attack on transfems, too. Acting as if masculinity is inherently harmful, âI hate men,â just the way people view male privilege... is an attack on transfems, too. Thatâs why when I see posts from transfems saying âTrans men are really putting the âmenâ in âtrans men,â huh?â I get really confused.
I havenât been âsocializedâ (I hate that word, but I hope this helps explain what I mean) as solely a boy. Being intersex made my experiences unique in a way thatâs really hard to understand. But when I joined queer spaces, back when I just thought I was a guy that cross-dressed a few times, all I got in response was that it wasnât my place. That I donât get it because Iâm a man. That men are cruel, evil, that they rape and murder women and thatâs all they do. That Iâve never known oppression.
Toxic masculinity harms men. It harms boys, even if theyâre the âprivilegedâ cis straight boys. You might be shy, and youâll get sexually assaulted because of it. âWhat, do you not hang out with us because youâre a faggot?â and so, so much more. Oppression is much more than what people identify as. Being transfem, the harm toxic masculinity does is especially obvious to you, but living in it, you must have seen men that werenât like that, no?
Masculinity doesnât make you evil. I often think about the boys I dated. They werenât the type of boys queer spaces talked about. It made me feel alienated, because I didnât hate masculinity as a whole, I hated how toxic masculinity harmed the men in my life. Me being transfem has nothing to do with this, even if I was cis, this sentiment is still true. Masculinity is not evil.
I dislike transfems that feed into this. I dislike transfems that act as if transmasculine people really are traitors and are moving to the oppressorâs side. That is not at all whatâs happening. Feeding into the idea that masculinity is harmful, that itâs only there to silence femininity, that anyone that presents that way is inherently an oppressor, is just straight up objectively wrong.
I get it, weâre hurting. The way people treat us is exhausting. Transmasculine people are not the problem. Can we focus on the amount of cis women that say we donât get it because we were âsocializedâ as men? Can we focus on the terfs, on the men that fetishize us, that kill us, instead of transmascs that are just a little annoying? This is not the problem you think it is. Feeding into the idea of despicable masculinity doesnât just harm transmasculine people it harms us, too. Please stop.
Transmascs are not oppressed because theyâre masculineâ except for the few instances in which masculinity is viewed as bad, like I just explained, but beyond that, they experience both transphobia and misogyny. Itâs just a different kind from transmisogyny that transfeminine people experience. Transmascs are not talking over women when they explain how misogyny impacts them, too. Transmascs are not talking over women when they explain how transphobia impacts them, too. And God, once more, framing transmasc as âevil masculinity that silences femininityâ is not the âgotchaâ you think it is.
Passing isnât the privilege people think it is. Okay, great, you look like a man at first. What about intimate relationships? Can you tell your partner you donât have what they expect you to have? What about making new friends? Do you have to tell them or not? What about jobs? What will they think when they see âFâ on your ID? What about healthcare? Will your gynecologist be okay with it? Do you need to change doctors? How much does it cost? What about abortions? Pregnancy laws? And so, so much more. Do you see this? Is this âmale privilegeâ?
This is the oppression transmascs experience. Misogyny, and transphobia. Them being masc is still a problem in queer communities but I believe the misogyny is a larger problem.
But thatâs why transmascs and transfems are at each otherâs throats. Because transmascs, somehow, believe their being masculine is their biggest problem. âTransandrophobiaâ somehow implies their oppression is because theyâre men, not because theyâre trans and biologically targeted by society. Transfems see that, and think, âwell thatâs stupid.â And end up going into the âmasculinity is evilâ rabbit hole.
You are both wrong. This argument is idiotic. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.