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Hermes & Philonis

artwork based on a ych, don't know its original author though

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Which god are they looking at?

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While it's a well-known fact that most book-based musicals greatly alter the basic premise of the original, I found it amusing to imagine the reactions of the key characters in these works to those alterations.

As much as I love musicals, I came to the conclusion that listening to the songs out of context can sometimes be the better choice, because seriously, some of those stage productions lost their grip on basic common sense for the sake of emotional impact, which resulted in a rather corny experience when viewing the whole picture. I'm not saying mindless entertainment is bad, however, I do think that musicals, when based on a classical literary source, should pay due respect to the original and preserve the original message, rather than changing everything at the core for the sake of emotions that weren't there in the first place.

gholateg

I wouldn't say the revenge backfires, just that he went a bit too far with Villifort by bringing his wife into things.

katerinaaqu

Well technically it does backfire in the essence that his revenge was against everyone that he felt that wronged him and all their family members.

Soon he realized that this would mean bot the woman he once loved and her son with whom he turned out to be extremely bonded with even if he would never admit it and he realized that the pain he occurred would fall on him. He also knew that he would have to lose his precious life that he held onto for so long because he couldn't appear like a coward and cancel the duel but he couldn't also kill the boy due to the pleading of Mercedes so yeah he was in a pickle

In another essence his revenge backfired in the essence he would have to go to exile again in the essence that he wouldn't be able to stay there anymore and all I guess And it backfired in the essence of emotions because he wanted to appear as morally superior aka that they hurt him and his family in a heinous way so now they all deserved to suffer. But once their families got dragged into this, Edmund realized he became the same if not worse than the people he accused on principle so in a way it backfired to his principles. He realized that revenge was not something morally proper no matter the starting point

I guess that is a small list of reasons why op uses the word "backfire" here. Yes it is not like the thing turned against him (apart maybe as I said the duel outcome implications) but rather that everything that Edmund stood for during his vendetta proved to be made of glass essentially.

whatevstu

I couldn't have explained it better. Thank you 💜

While it's a well-known fact that most book-based musicals greatly alter the basic premise of the original, I found it amusing to imagine the reactions of the key characters in these works to those alterations.

As much as I love musicals, I came to the conclusion that listening to the songs out of context can sometimes be the better choice, because seriously, some of those stage productions lost their grip on basic common sense for the sake of emotional impact, which resulted in a rather corny experience when viewing the whole picture. I'm not saying mindless entertainment is bad, however, I do think that musicals, when based on a classical literary source, should pay due respect to the original and preserve the original message, rather than changing everything at the core for the sake of emotions that weren't there in the first place.

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Agamemnon and Menelaus fanart. The famous "I got you, bro" duo.

Designs based on @katerinaaqu's depictions of them: 🍂 Agamemnon • Menelaus 🍂

A small gift for you, sister! ^^

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I said that Odysseus' crew deserves more recognition, and I'm staying true to my word. There aren't many named Cephallenian participants in the poem, but there are a few, so I wanted to come up with designs for them.

I've done as much research as I could, but I can't guarantee historical accuracy for their designs. I allowed myself some creative freedom to make each of them unique in their own way and just to make it comfortable for these guys to move around and exist.

About each one individually (+headcanons):

Odysseus

"Look, if I'd known 'Nobody' was going to become a recurring bit, I would've picked a funnier name." - Odysseus.

I've had several designs for Odysseus before, and I can't say I was particularly happy with them. A lot of them were inspired by third-party drawings that I saw before reading the poem. While I was reading the Odyssey, I was very focused on how I imagined Odysseus' look, and this image came to my mind. Unlike my other designs, he is more equipped with armor and wears a chiton with sleeves covering his shoulders, decorated with wave patterns. The red primary color implies danger, while blue reflects his love for the sea. He is the only one who wears a golden mitra on his forehead and bandaged himantes (because he uses his arms a lot). His attire is slightly worn out after the Odyssey, but he'll patch it up eventually.

Eurylochus

"It wasn't me who killed the cow, it was she who fell on my sword!" - Eurylochus.

Eurylochus was Odysseus' second-in-command. His design was probably the most difficult for me of all. I wanted to make him as much the opposite of Odysseus as possible and at the same time emphasize his cowardly nature. Unlike Odysseus, who wears worn out clothes befitting a king after years of hardship, Eurylochus looks well-groomed since he prefers not to engage in trouble or fights. The abundance of red in his design symbolizes the danger he represents to Odysseus, while the sturdy muscle cuirass symbolizes his physical strength. The scars on Eurylochus' face and neck were unlikely to have been received during the war.

Polites

"If I were given a drachma for every time Odysseus has a stupidly brilliant idea, I would have two drachmas - which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice." - Polites.

In my design, Polites can't see well, so he uses a ball lens given to him by Odysseus to look at things up close. He always wears it around his neck and never loses it. The leather belts on his shoulders are a remnant from when he used to be an archer, but after his eyesight worsened, Odysseus made him a therapōn. Polites wears a green chiton - a nod to how often he used to hide in trees and bushes back when he was hunting on the Cephallenian islands.

Elpenor

"What do you mean I'm not allowed to go to the Trojan War? All my friends are going to the Trojan War!" - Elpenor.

Elpenor was the youngest crew member on Odysseus' twelfth ship, who Odysseus described as "not overly brave in battle and not very bright among the others." Nevertheless, I imagine that Elpenor remained a ray of light among the soldiers of the Cephallenian Islands, much like his bright bronze hair. The armor, made of layered linen, was inherited from his grandfather and served him faithfully during the Trojan war. Elpenor also wears an eye patch - he doesn't actually need it, but he thinks it makes him look cool!

Perimedes

"Don't worry, βασιλεύς. My wife and I have done this a thousand times!" - probably Perimedes, when he was tying Odysseus to the mast.

Although Perimedes is mentioned by name only once, I imagine him, according to his name, to be the calmest and most caring of Odysseus' crew. He is the always-relaxed friend who will always help and never judge. That's why I picture him calm, with hair down and a bandana on his forehead. His hands are worn down from ropes because he is the best at tying knots (which is why Odysseus asked Perimedes to tie him to the mast so he could hear the Sirens without throwing himself overboard). Perimedes collects souvenirs in the form of animal teeth, beautiful stones and pearls to give to his wife. He wears a very simple dark brown chiton, while his wrists are bandaged with an abundance of wrappings so that his grip is tighter and he does not accidentally injure his hands even more.

Please keep in mind that those designs have nothing to do with EPIC: The Musical. I'm a fan of Homer's poem, not EPIC.

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This happened to me more often than I'm willing to admit.

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Hesiod has a version of Philones in his writing????

Yes and no. Unfortunately, the answer is a bit more complicated than just saying 'Hesiod wrote this fragment about Philonis,' since, as far as I know, we can't prove with absolute certainty that he was the author of the 'Catalogue of Women' (from which the fragment originated).

But! The fragment does belong to the Hesiodic tradition, so, technically, it's not really such big of a mistake to say it's just 'from Hesiod'! Here's the fragment from the 'Catalogue of Women' in Loeb Classical Library edition, along with Philonis and her sons (and their dads!)

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I'm a little late for the party, but I managed to finish this short comic for February 14th!

I was in the mood to draw something cute, but for some reason I couldn't end up with just one drawing. Philonis (Chione) and Hermes are my favorite ancient Greek couple, even though the myth of Philonis is very short and seems absolutely insignificant at first. But alas, she is the great-grandmother of Odysseus, and the mother of Autolycus, and she is also constantly recorded under variously translated names, which is why it is very difficult to find her in sources that are not Hyginus or Ovid.

The other day I found a fragment about her from Hesiod, which made me very happy (I've been looking for something like this for a long time)! So, take this comic not only as a special bonus for Valentine's Day, but also as me sharing my joy that Philonis really had a place in Greek mythology (and not only Roman)!

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The actual reason why Elpenor was sent to Hades a bit sooner than expected. Odysseus' crew deserves more recognition!

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Reading various mythological canons on the subject of the Odyssey, whether Scholia or Roman authors that divert so much from the Greek original is both hilarious and infuriating.

One can only guess what reactions the characters of these myths would have to these rewrites. p.s. Poor Telemachus. He had it rough too.

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A collab my friend (@sinderyden) and I did, based on a conversation we had about the Roman retellings of Greek myths and how much mass media often confuses the two.