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the lestat and nicki tavern scene is so important to me because theyâre so gentle with each other. lestat trying to come up with a kinder version of nickiâs father, nicki softly helping when he stutters. have we considered itâs probably the first time in lestatâs entire life he didnât receive judgment, shame, or cold ignorance in the face of his stuttering? have we considered that when lestat says you played beautifully with that look of wonder on his face, itâs because this might be some of the first music heâs ever heard? a gentle, beautiful sound, in such contrast to the screaming abuses and chilling silences that have been the soundtrack to his whole life so far
I found it curious that Lestat only had his father and GrĂŠgoire at the table as cabbages, and not Augustine, and then, well,
âYou like to watch? Well, donât look now, but Magnus, his hand is wandering down my older brotherâs pants.â
GrĂŠgoire is the brother who looks the most like Lestat.
Itâs the lookalike corpses all over again.
I love how this show uses art, and I thought it was fun that the painting Lestat uses to represent Magnus at the table in last nightâs episode,
is The Number of the Beast is 666 by William Blake, but upside down.
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Was lestat wearing his pants from the trial when he humiliated Armand ?
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đŹ 0  đ 2  â¤ď¸ 38 ¡ I've LOVED this season so far, but the one thing I've been worried about is what they're doing with Lestat and Armand. Sin
I don't think it's really about Armand being "sanitized" (trust me. he's not.) but because the noncon was the entire foundation of Lestat's relationship with Armand. If you remove that, Lesmand is no longer Lesmand. It's something else entirely. That's why people are taking issue.
But as I've said, it was surprising to me to see people actually upset over this. Not gonna lie, I appreciate it, because it demonstrates how far we've come as a fandom. If you questioned Armand's fanfic back during S2? Oh, to the gallows with you! So yeah. It's progress. đ
I've LOVED this season so far, but the one thing I've been worried about is what they're doing with Lestat and Armand. Since they've already given the drop to Lestat, I don't think that's going to happen anymore. But IF they've also removed Armand assaulting him, then what is the point of their dynamic? I guess what I'm really asking is whether I should expect there to be more to their PAST relationship later on. It would be such a shame if they ended up completely sanitizing Armand, I wasnât expecting them to do that but now I donât know what to think. Some of the lines in âBig Bossâ are giving me hope we are getting more of them but I donât know if that is just me being delusional.
Look.
I've already talked about this here. The things I was referring to in that linked post ^^ after Episode 4 are the Big Boss lyrics and the conversation between Armand and Lestat in the bus in which Lestat does not acknowledge the "sharing your body and blood" line but he does acknowledge the trial, and he's angry.
And now that they've released the clip from Episode 5 in which Lestat burns himself to elicit the right emotions for the high note during Big Boss â clearly a reference to Armand burning Nicki and Claudia â it lends even more credence to the oddity that is the backstory.
So just wait. If this (consensual Lesmand) turns out to be the route they're taking, you will be hearing from me. đ
But something else is going on here, guys. Something that feels sinister, and I would be shocked if nothing ever comes from these hints.
Do you think theyâre softening Armand and Lestatâs history?
I feel like the Armand we see now is still a bit⌠defanged?
Obviously nobody has seen ep7 but it sounds like they donât really explore how Armand came to be âthe gremlinâ in Lestatâs eyes at any point in the first six episodes.
Iâm just a bit confused as to why theyâre essentially completely removing or at least removing Armandâs role in so many of the events that shaped their dynamic.
I have to be honest. I'm actually surprised to see so many people seemingly upset by this. đ
Here's the thing and please understand, I can't fully delve into this aspect just yet.
The subject of Lestat's past with Armand....it's framed in a way that hints at something. It comes across as if there's more that Lestat simply isn't addressing right now.
We'll talk more after Episode 4, because like I said, there are some hints. There are also blatant demonstrations on Lestat's end that, again, hint at something else going on. For example, Sam Barclay being afraid of Lestat in Episode 1 and clarifying to him that the Talamasca dragged him into the trial. Okay, if Lestat was a "willing" participant, why would Sam think that Lestat would hold the trial against him? If Lestat was "willing", why would he be mad about the trial at all? It's things like that.
Because yes, there is a reason Lestat holds such disdain for Armand, and that disdain was there even before the tragedy with Nicki and the later tragedy with Claudia. It's definitely a sore spot with Lestat, and we know how Lestat glosses over the sore spots....for the most part.
I do want to see what happens in Episode 7 where Armand is concerned, because guys. He has not been sanitized. There are things within the first 6 episodes that, frankly, will hit this fandom like a train. Things that made my jaw drop, and that's all I can say for now. đŹ
Also? Lestat and Armand weren't non-negotiables. Not really and therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if Rolin did actually give them a consensual, sexual relationship. I mean, the book canon is the book canon, and Armand canonically raped him, and that is why they never had a proper relationship. However, after other changes within the show that significantly deviated from the book canon, I told myself that I would meet the show where it is and that I would engage with whatever Rolin is cooking. That is, unless he stops meeting my non-negotiables and like I said, those don't include Lestat and Armand.
âI canât remember anything bad between us,â I said. âYou will,â he responded. âAnd so will I. But what does it matter what we remember?â âYes,â I said, âweâre both still here."
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I think people need to wait until Episode 7 until they determine that Lesmand was consensual in the show because I've already seen too much bloody victim blaming from the Uwu!Armand stans.
Lines told by Muse!Nicki that could very much be nothing or a memory that Lestat has of one of Nicki's paranoid's rants is confirmation of nothing. Lestat is way too uncomfortable around Armand for their history to be just casual sex before the trial.
Also, even if they had casual sex in Paris, Lestat has all the right to reject Armand because he is 1) pushy 2) a creep 3) cultist. Having casual sex with him doesn't give Armand any right of 'taking revenge' by killing Lestat's child years later. *sides eyes* That's incel rhetoric and literally defeats the point of the themes around the season if you think Armand was totally justified with that reaction.
Anyway, everybody chill until Episode 7.
I was rewatching Toledo with my friend, and during the scene in the strip club, I said, "Gabriella's so funny. I think a lot of people hate that she's allowed to be funny."
And it's got me thinking a lot about humor and the way it's used in The Vampire Lestat/Interview with the Vampire. It's something I connect really deeply to because there's not really much separation between tragedy and humor the show in the way a lot of media will have funny moments and sad moments, and sometimes the two will mingle, but there's something very visceral about how tragedy and comedy interact in The Vampire Lestat.
I had a therapist once that said our sessions were different than any others he's had, and I asked him, "Is it because I call you an asshole all the time?"
He said, "No, that actually happens a lot." What was different, apparently, is that I'd be crying and talking about big traumatic shit and really digging into it, and all of a sudden I'd make a joke about it, and we'd both start laughing, and then we'd keep going, and it didn't detract from the therapy.
This has always kinda been my way, and it's why I used to do comedy and why I'm toying with the idea of going back. It's frustrating when people act like humor is simply a deflection. Humor CAN be a deflection or a defense mechanism, but it is also a way of processing other emotions. It's a way of processing major things including abuse and tragedy.
Which brings me back to Gabriella. I keep seeing people being upset about the scene with Jarda and calling it unnecessary, too graphic and too long. Skipping over some of the prudishness here, the "too long" comment baffles me because the length of the scene and the scene itself is very clearly played for comedy. And I thought it was fucking hilarious. I thought Gabriella was hilarious.
AND at the same time, we're getting Lestat's reactions, and we KNOW the deeper aspects of how she's tormenting him. So, the scene is still funny, but it has layers of tragedy and horror as well. THEN, in the next episode we find out how the scene mirrors a pivotal moment in Gabriella's abuse of Lestat, and it brings MORE layers of tragedy and horror to it.
And the scene itself is still funny. Gabriella's still funny in it. And the horror and tragedy is still there alongside the comedy.
This is an approach, too, that I think is very much in line with the books. The Vampire Lestat, the book, is full of trauma and pain, AND the first page is THE TEMPLATE for the oft-parodied My Immortal fanfiction intro. And, indeed, there is no Lestat-narrated novel in which he is not compelled to describe himself in horny detail. A lot about this book series is funny.
And Gabriella's character gets to be funny in the show. And abusive, and resentful, and selfish, and traumatized, and loving, and hateful, and sexual, and manipulative, and ambitious, and all these beautiful, horrible, INTERESTING layers just like ALL of the characters.
But she gets called one note. And her gender nonconformity gets shoved aside by fans because it doesn't fit in simple boxes. All these layers get ignored so people can shout "misogynistic writing" because she's expressing herself sexually just like ALL the characters do, and her relationship to sexuality is different than in the books just like ALL the characters' are because of the changes made to the adaptation itself.
And I think one thing people are not handling well about her is that she gets to be funny too. And I think some of that is definitely that she's not a man. And believe me I have plenty of personal experience with that too. But she's funny.
Gabriella is EVERYTHING. And she's funny too.
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