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@wildlith
Honestly it is pretty sad that one big fandom gets to pretty much nonstop bully and harass multiple smaller fandoms who are just trying to find little scraps of joy in this doomed world, to the point that every day you log on and go "i wonder what complete stranger is going to be barging in here to shit on us for their weird, creepy power fantasy today", but that's just the way the world works. Bullies always win. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Man, Batfam fans will just straight up give Hal the opposite of his canon personality if it will help them shit on him. I guess it's easy to make shit up if you refuse to engage with canon. Thanks for putting this in the Hal Jordan tag! It has been about two seconds since the last batspammer dropped a deuce in here.
Are they incorrect though?
I mean, none of these panels prove what OP was trying to claim? None of them show Hal insisting on full attendance at meetings or being shocked at the existence of Bruce's Robins? Like what does Parallax have to do with it? Do you think Parallax was insisting on full attendance at JL meetings?
You're just trying to use them as a gotcha because they're just examples of white male writers from the 90s or earlier being gross (at least, the ones that actually happened before being retconned--one of them is an imagined sequence, which you wouldn't know because you don't read comics) but they have literally nothing to do with how he was presented in the fanart above. You can't disprove me because I'm right, all you can do is dig up noncanon shit from the 1900s in an attempt to derail the argument. But here's the thing--you can dig up panels of every hero being gross, it's a side effect of the fact that white men were running the comics industry from the start. Batfam fans will go on and on about how panels of Batman or their other faves being horrid don't count because the writers don't understand him or it was OOC or retconned or whatever, but once it's a character they don't like? Then it's fundamental to his character. Then they get to spam their hatred in character tags forever so that people who want to use those character tags to actually build communities can't reach each other because it's just a flood of OOC garbage. Because fuck everyone who isn't a batfam fan! They should just kill themselves, right?
So really, all you've done here is prove that batfam fans are scummy, though I already knew that, given the insane amount of racism, classism, and other assorted garbage they shit into the other DC fandom tags on a daily basis. GL comics might have been gross back before any of us were born, but Batfam fans are being gross today.
Man, Batfam fans will just straight up give Hal the opposite of his canon personality if it will help them shit on him. I guess it's easy to make shit up if you refuse to engage with canon. Thanks for putting this in the Hal Jordan tag! It has been about two seconds since the last batspammer dropped a deuce in here.
Obvious clarification that if you do not want to read comics you do not have to read comics but why when you suggest very neutrally that if you're into an adaption of a comic book, maybe it would be nice to read the source material do people act like you just shot their dog in front of them. It's picture books babe you should not be having this severe reaction to being suggested to read picture books.
MCU fans and Batfam fans when you suggest reading 32 pages of picture books every once in a while.
if reminding Batfans that the rest of the Justice League are competent heroes is gatekeeping, then fuck it I'll be a gatekeeper.
"b-but comics are expensive-"
I'm blocking the entrance with my spear and I'm not afraid to poke you with the sharp end. Pirate those picture books if you must.
"But piracy is illegal-"
Then ask people who have read the comics to explain them to you. There are multiple Youtube channels solely dedicated to that. Lots of people on Tumblr will happily yap about their favorite superheroes if you ask- I keep my own askbox open for this and lemme tell you, my favorite questions to answer are the ones from people who don't know about the Green Lanterns but are willing to learn
No one is forcing you to make posts about the DC universe with only Batfamily fanon as your basis of knowledge.
#the batfamily deserves better than to be reduced to a bunch of smarmy rich assholes who get their kicks from bullying other heroes
You know, I've been so focused on the fandoms that are being affected by the behavior of Batman fans that this hadn't really crossed my mind, but it's extremely well put. In so many of those posts, they're written as outright bullies. If you changed their names and put them in any other context, even their fans would be like "wow these guys suck."
My boy johnstantine got hands down the worst tumblr treatment I have ever seen. He’s only talked about in the context of batfamily members, Danny phantom, and Raven. my boy survived the aids crisis and homelessness to be woobified for fucking cartoon characters. RIP king your trench coat drip was too strong your swag too great
I realize that most Batman fans don't care that their constant tag spamming is fucking up the fandom experience for other fandoms (particularly GL and Constantine). I realize they don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. But you'd think they'd at least care about how many potential Batman fans their behavior is driving away. I've seen so many DC peeps on here go from "yeah Batman's cool" to "I fucking hate Batman" solely because of the behavior of the fandom. News flash: If you're only using other DC characters in your post as a prop to make a Bat look cooler, you don't need to tag it with those characters.
You try it.
Green Lantern to Batman: "Why are you letting some kid go with you crime fighting?" Batman: "I'd like to se you try to stop him." Green Lantern: tries to trap Robin in a bubble. Robin: wraps himself in his cape so that the yellow side is out and falls through the bubble. Green Lantern: "What?" Robin: bounces up with his hand wrapped in yellow cloth and punches green lantern in the crotch. Green Lantern: eyes crossed "Ouch." Falls over. Batman: sips coffee "Thought as much."
Here's some actual canon to balance that out.
Instead of using panels that haven't been canon for decades to justify this overdone crap, instead consider not spamming the GL tag with your weird and wildly OOC power fantasies? Batman fans are constantly flooding other fandom tags with this stuff to the point that they're becoming unusable by actual fans (check out that link if you want an idea of how dire the situation is).
If you really, honestly can't resist posting this poorly written nonsense, the least you could do is not tag it. We use the tags to find one another and build communities, and Batman fans go out of their way to clog them up with spam.
Oh, and I forgot: Do you think that every Silver Age GL issue ended with the main characters shrugging and going, "Oh, it's yellow, guess we lose this week"? The yellow weakness was overcome in every issue it featured in. It was never as debilitating as Batman fans like to portray it is in their hourly posts about how much Green Lantern sucks.
What the yellow thing?
Ooc
So in older canon, the Green Lantern Ring was unable to directly affect anything yellow. So if they made a giant hand to smash a taxi that wouldn't work, but they could pick up a tree and drop it on the taxi.
This itself isn't a problem and actually makes for interesting narratives and creative problem solving.
Since those times, the rings have undergone a revamp - instead of needing to recharge every 24 hours it functions like everything with a battery, depending on how you use it drains faster and slower. The other change is basically that, to loosely quote Ha, "If you know what you're doing, the ring can effect yellow." Nowadays the yellow weakness rarely-if-ever gets brought up.
Like I said, I actually think the yellow weakness is fun to play around with. But for certain fans - basically always Batman fans - it's the only fact they know about any of the GLs and will use it for a character pissing contest to prove Batman's superiority. The moment you bring up Green Lantern they bring up the yellow weakness - this is especially a problem on YouTube.
And they don't even know it's not really part of the current canon.
They will basically go "Haha your favourite character SUCKS and Batman is so much BETTER he can defeat the entire Justice League with one hand and also treats them all as children and every single one of the Batkids is ALSO more competent than the whole Justice League. I will put posts into the Hal Jordan and Green Lanterns tag where Hal has one single line that makes him look like an idiot, asshole or both! Bruce should explain planes to former Air Force Captain Hal Jordan! I'm so good at this, haha! These posts will make up a good quarter of the Hal Jordan tag because of how massively outnumbered GL fans are! I'm sure glad I don't have to deal with how annoying it is to scroll through people constantly misrepresenting and hating on my favourite character! Haha!"
I think this got away from me.
Just... If you've never consumed a single piece of media that included the Lanterns, just... don't post about them. I don't need you to like them or know about them. Just treat other fans with a modicum of respect and don't talk shit about our favourite characters to their face in that characters tag. (I'm not alone with my frustration, by the way. The vast majority of GL fans absolutely share my frustration.)
Also, to be clear I don't hold a general dislike for fans of the Bats. I actually started out mostly as a Batman fan years ago.
Tldr: GL fans are in the fucking TRENCHES.
Unfortunately, this is relevant again today.
You try it.
Green Lantern to Batman: "Why are you letting some kid go with you crime fighting?" Batman: "I'd like to se you try to stop him." Green Lantern: tries to trap Robin in a bubble. Robin: wraps himself in his cape so that the yellow side is out and falls through the bubble. Green Lantern: "What?" Robin: bounces up with his hand wrapped in yellow cloth and punches green lantern in the crotch. Green Lantern: eyes crossed "Ouch." Falls over. Batman: sips coffee "Thought as much."
Here's some actual canon to balance that out.
me on my hands and knees: please,,,,please show me some green lantern stuff. please ! i will do Anything for my blorbos, my scrimblos,,,, mercy please,,,,
batman for some fucking reason: Kill Your Self
Scrolling through 99% of DC tags is like:
thank you sooo much for the save! Op was wild how was any of that an attack?!
I think it just goes to show that we need to all stand up to these people together rather than let one person do it alone.
If you (not you you, just like, editorial you) see someone trying to protect their fandom tag from a batspammer, I urge you to stand up for them. Even if they're from a fandom you're not in personally. Because it's not just Green Lantern that's getting this treatment, it's Flash, it's Green Arrow, it's Constantine, it's EVERYONE. The Batman fandom has overtaken every DC tag and drowned them in their OOC "tee hee I don't read comics but I'm pretty sure my faves are the greatest and the non-Bats don't know how to tie their own shoes" garbage. Those tags are meant for fans to be able to find each other and build communities, not for shitting on characters for having the gall to exist in the DC universe without being bats.
PS: I think we should start reporting these posts as spam, because they literally are. They spam all the DC tags.
going down a non bat superhero tag be like: Batman post, Batman post, Batman post that explicitly belittles the tagged superhero, more disrespect, post that doesn’t even mention the tag but says justice league in it, GOOD POST, good analysis but somehow still about Batman, ship art with Batman, post that has nothing to do with the tag or the fandom, the most incorrect take you’ve ever heard, more disrespect, take based on a spin-off animated show that hated he character, GOOD ART, just a genuinely confusing take, Batman post, Batman post, Batman post.
need everyone to fully understand how real this is
To further prove this point, this is first page of the Lois Lane tag, sorted by Top, so what Tumblr considers the most popular posts in the tag; note that I usually do not have batfam tags filtered but did so as an example here:
Notice how the top 3 posts are about Batman? that there's a post that's gifs of the Batman movie and one of Clark from the trailer and no Lois, that wasn't tagged with Batman or Bruce Wayne to filter it out? That the number of posts with Batman in them outnumber the posts that don't have him in them?
This has been especially dire in the Clark Kent tag lately, since at least half of the discussion around the Superman 2025 trailer has been about how to shoehorn Batman in. Again, this is the top page of the Clark Kent tag:
two entire posts that are not about Batman! wow! such riches!
bringing this back.
I'm going to start a collection of panels of various DC characters telling Batman he ain't shit in a probably doomed effort to make tumblr understand that other superheroes are not actually that impressed or scared by him. Starting off with a couple of my favorites:
HE HAS NO REJOINDER. Steph you are my everything.
Again, Bruce has nothing to say BECAUSE WALLY'S RIGHT AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT.
not related to the post concept, but that last image
roy you arent Allowed to look awkward you said the exact same fucking thing to him😭😭😭
You can always count on the Green Lanterns to give zero fucks about Batman's menacing glare. Exhibit A: Guy Gardner, President of the "Bats Ain't Shit" Club
Not even the rookies are intimidated by him, as Simon kindly demonstrates in Green Lanterns. Even funnier, this issue began with Simon's internal narration talking about how nervous he was about working with Batman. That feeling lasted all of five minutes before the two got into a shouting match in front of Commissioner Gordon.
Of course, Green Lantern: Rebirth is just full of moments like this. For starters, John is having absolutely none of Batman's bullshit regarding Hal
Then there's Hal's iconic one-punch knocking Spooky on his ass in front of the Justice League
And even the old man steps in to tell Bruce to mind his own business
Even Kyle and Jessica, who are arguably the GLs that have the best working relationship with Batman, don't hesitate to get up in his face
I'm like 99% sure Jo hasn't met Batman yet, but I have no doubt that she'll get her turn to yell at him
Starman 1994 #33
Gotta love Jack Knight!
I open the Constantine tag. I see a batfam social media post mocking John, a bi man, having STDs as gag.
I close the Constantine tag.
But when I say biphobia is a recurring thing in the DC fanbase I'm the bad guy.
