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HOW is Mizu such a fan favourite among us lesbians and yet there are only 2 Mizu x Fem OC fics on ao3 longer than 10,000 words? LESBIANS, WE MUST UNITE AND WRITE SOME FICS!!!!!!!!!
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I don't know who needs to hear this, but the Na'vi Avatar fandom needs some w/w fics!!!
So far the only ones I've seen have been one shot poly pairs with Jake and Neytiri or Tsu'tey and Sylwanin. I would KILL for an OC avatar or Na'vi paired with a Na'vi. I've become fond of fics that have portrayed Peyral as a strong sarcastic bi woman, come on guys! Now THAT'S a w/w fic! đđđ
I feel like lot of arcane fandom discourse is just a product of how charged our political climate has gotten.. the idea of modern audiences projecting puritanical moral frameworks onto stories that seem to deliberately resist them. The show intentionally avoids a lot of words like LOVE but also labels like authoritarianism despite being applicable because it isnât interested in hand feeding us whoâs âgoodâ or âbadâ - which I think is why the fandom is so Divided when it comes to defending its faves - itâs about flawed people making desperate choices in high-stakes situations.
But the fandomâs urge to decide who weâre âallowedâ to like often flattens that nuance, and I think Caitlynâs treatment is a perfect example. Critiques that dismiss her as âcopagandaâ ignore that her arc is fundamentally about disillusionment, not institutional glorification. Who is she convincing. Her story has uncomfortable imagery of someone committing terrible acts (as most central characters do in this show???) and ends on an uncertain, un-triumphant moment. Yet because sheâs an Asian lesbian and part of the showâs central canon couple, she becomes this lightning rod for purity politics - I see people disguise latent racism, misogyny, and queer discomfort behind pseudo-progressive language that feels so unique to this fandom. Meanwhile, male and non-canon ships are given far more grace to exist in their moral grayness because. Hey guys. Thatâs more fun and interesting, and these are fictional characters providing an opportunity for such an inclusive space that I think has been taken for granted.
This fandom is just so. incapable of sitting in ambiguity. I think the refusal to let characters like Caitlyn be complex (in the way white dudes from other shows are allowed to be complex) says more about our cultural discomfort with imperfection in this day and age than about the show itself. Shouting bad writing from your high horse.. holy copeâŠ.
Seeing some people again having to defend why CaitVi/Caitlyn/Vi are special to them, and let me just say this: don't ever apologize for loving characters that represent you. Full stop. You love Caitlyn/Vi because you're sapphic? Valid. You love Caitlyn because she's a complex East Asian female character? A lesbian one at that? Valid.
Also, don't ever apologize for characters that represent you getting a happy ending. It wasn't that long ago that, by law, queer characters in American media literally had to either be outright evil or killed off tragically. It's one of the reasons so many queer characters from that era suffer tragic deaths, because the creators legally couldn't give them happy endings. This became known as "Bury Your Gays", and it remained an unfortunately common trope even after those legal restrictions were lifted. Sapphic fandoms literally launched coordinated campaigns and spent money on billboards to criticize how common both this trope and blatant queer baiting were as recently as 2016, and we've had several other instances of Bury Your Gays since then as well.
So, do not ever, ever, apologize for celebrating when a same sex ship gets a happy ending together. If anybody tries to shame you over that, then they need to educate themselves on the history of queer people in media (even other queer people btw, especially younger ones). Doesn't matter what Twitter/TikTok brainrot reason they come up with, representation still matters, good queer representation is still rare, and you are not a bad person for identifying with X or Y queer characters.
This applies to the other minority characters in Arcane as well. People will try to find the most performative reasons to hate on a character and make you feel bad for identifying with them, but you know what? If they're your rep, you can unapologetically like them. Full stop. People unapologetically stan the most basic and/or scummy cis het white male characters, you don't have to produce a five page essay to justify stanning a character that represents you and helps you cope with how shitty the real world is.
I don't think you realise just how much I needed to hear this today! đđ
I am so god damn sick of people saying "it's such a tragedy that Vi was in prison then ended up with her oppressor in the end"
MATE!!!!!
Ah yes Caitlyn, the oppressor that was one of the few enforcers that didn't know of or participate in the beating of inmates at Stillwater and who was horrified when hearing that the guards beat Vi and other inmates regularly.
Who banned the use of deeper more depraved cells since coming into power and only verbally used the threat of them against a very real threat (Singed / Warwick, after Singed lured Warwick there and killed most prisoners and enforcers there)
Who was (admittedly naive) and believed of the threats Marcus told about the Undercity rather than blindly following prejudice assumptions against them, and when finding out the truth she INSTANTLY goes to defend the innocents. Pleading the council not to invade the Undercity and avoid the casualties.
So let me get this straight, we are always spouting to not judge a book by its cover, a person by their skin or beliefs, their monetary worth, where they came from, etc. And yet we are here shitting on Caitlyn's character because she is FROM Piltover, has MONEY, and works as an Enforcer for the pure reason of wanting to see the real world and help people.
And the only real time she shows true oppression is when her guilt, self doubt, anger, and grief over LOOSING HER MOTHER TO A PSYCHOTIC TERRORIST, is overwhelming her and being manipulated by a warlord General and said General's pet spy who are both whispering in her ears 24/7, turning her towards them and away from family and friends, and are constantly watching her every action from both sides to use for their own goals.
"Oh but what about gasing the Undercity"
Oh yes, you mean when she managed to avoid a whole invasion Enforcers upon the entire Undercity by creating a 5 person special task force to go after specific violent crime lords and gangs with the assistance of a targeted gas system to drive innocents out of these surrounding areas to avoid unnecessary death?
So let's see, she is of course not an infallible perfect human, what has she done?
Naively went out into the world assuming black and white was true. Let her grief and anger drive her actions during a dangerous time. Assume her shot would be 100% accurate and didn't fully consider the possibility of hitting a child in the crossfire. Hit her partner to try and drive her away when she sees she will get in the way of her goal.
Now looking at those I personally see an imperfect human being who made some stupid ass decisions while she was incredibly emotionally compromised and manipulated.
Then what did she do, wake up, feel guilty, let her emotions calm, see the truth, try to amend, and apologise (to those who say she never apologized I will forever highlight that actions speak MUCH louder than words, especially in this show!)
So once again I say. AH YES, WHAT A HORRIBLE OPPRESSOR SHE IS, WOE IS FUCKING ME!!!!!
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Reminder that a theater full of people was so loud during the CaitVi love scene that a sound engineer said the noise levels were like a jet engine, and Riot executives saw that. Reminder that the CaitVi love scene has literally won awards. Reminder that CaitVi flags are being flown in Pride parades in countries like South Korea, Mexico, Poland, France, Portugal, etc. Reminder that CaitVi are the second most popular f/f ship in all of ao3 and has more than doubled in the number of fics since s2 dropped. Reminder that the CaitVi love scene is the most captured moment in all of god damn Netflix.
Don't let a perma online vocal minority make you feel like a bad person for liking Caitlyn or CaitVi. Caitlyn and CaitVi mean a lot to many people and have left a positive impact on media representation. You are part of that legacy.
I know some fic writers get stressed about writing tropes they think are too popular or overdone, and I need you all to know that I just spent 4 hours reading every iteration of the same exact fic plot I could find, and they all brought me an indescribable amount of joy. Listen. Listen. Sometimes you want cakes of many flavours and sometimes you want Nine Carrot Cakes
THIS!!!
This is what happens when you doodle at work with lesbians on your mind! đ€Ł
Screaming into the void of Tumblr again since a few brain dead posts slipped into my feed yesterday.
Caitlyn is not a domestic abuser for hitting Vi. Just like how Vi is not one for hitting Powder.
Given the context of this story and where these characters are at mentally, any professional would have explained that to you. Abusive relationships have clear patterns, but your minds are too focused on your own feelings and biases that you keep trying to demonize her character to justify your own hate. You refuse to see her as anything but a human being because of her background and status. Its amazing how you have a filter tag for who deserves basic empathy and understanding and who does not. Its honestly sad for you.
What is really happening in that scene is Caitlyn is completely overwhelmed by her emotions and is unbalanced. On top of all the trauma Jinx has put her through in season 1, she watched her mother die in front of her, and she is blaming herself. She is angry because she is devastated over her mom, but she hasnt been able to grieve healthily and properly. She is trying to stand tall and take the weight of the crown she has rejected her whole life. The memorial attack, where she can feel and honor her mom, gets violently attacked. And thats her tipping point.
She is desperately trying to hold on to the one person she cares for and trusts as support and thats Vi aka her mom's murderer's sister. It sounds absurd when you say it out loud. The moment she is stopped by Vi again, she feels a visceral sense of betrayal. The reasons do not matter for someone in that mental state at the time. It is simply wrong to expect humans to react rationally in these emotionally dense situations. She does not attack Vi or try to take control of her; she simply wants to leave. Then she freaking gets stopped and is compared to her mom's murderer. It doesnt matter that Vi has good intentions, that is the biggest insult and kick you can give her at that moment. She simply doesn't want to stay with her, to be held by her. And that's valid. She completely loses herself in her anger and responds physically by hitting her. It does not matter that it is the wrong thing to do because realistically, this is a very possible and expected human response. I seriously feel like I am trying to explain Psychology 101 to some people. Seperate your own feelings from the show for once and see the narrative.
And stop twisting the truth of this character. Stop mislabeling her and accusing her with definitions that do not fit her story to satisfy your own negative emotions.
If you were in Caitlyn's position, given these childish reactions I bet a lot of you would not have the control, consciousness, and moral backbone that she has in this story. She is literally one of the strongest characters in the show. Honestly, Jinx has always been my favorite character, but you all are turning me into a die hard Caitlyn defender around here.
10/10 excellent post. And I am a DIE HARD Vi defender. And OP I totally feel you. Vi is my favorite all day but these people have turned me into an aggressive Caitlyn defender
THIS, THIS, BOTH OF THESE POSTS! YES EXACTLY!!!!!
I just had a horrible thought: Caitlyn and Vi being separated in Act 1 probably saved both their lives and the entire world.
If Vi stayed with Caitlyn, she wouldâve kept trying to be Caitâs voice of reason, calling out Ambessaâs BS every chance she got (like she does immediately in Caitâs office). Ambessa wouldâve seen her as an obstacle to manipulating Caitlyn. And knowing Ambessa? Sheâd set up some kind of âaccidentâ to take Vi out, probably framing Jinx for it. Caitlyn, full of grief and rage, wouldâve been even more hellbent on revenge against Jinx, falling further into Ambessaâs control.
When Caitlyn brings Vi to Ambessa at the commune, Ambessa outright says, âCaitlyn cannot be distracted,â while reaching for a knife to kill Vi. This was never going to end well.
Without Vi, Caitlyn wouldâve had no one to pull her out of this spiral. No feelings of guilt over leaving Vi behind to make her question her choices. No reunion that tips her doubt over the edge into full-on betrayal of Ambessa. Instead, Caitlyn wouldâve been left alone, drowning in her grief, with only Ambessa guiding her actions and Maddie pretending to comfort her.
Even if Caitlyn eventually turned against Ambessa (which, letâs be real, she probably wouldâveâJayce shooting Viktor and Ambessa making deals with him wouldâve been her breaking point), she wouldâve been completely alone at the commune. No Vi. No backup. Just Ambessa, her army, and maybe even Riktus, who we already know almost killed Caitlyn in the past. Sheâd have no way out. The second Caitlyn showed any resistance to Ambessa, she wouldâve been killedâor worse, turned into yet another martyr for Piltoverâs war against Zaun.
And if Cait somehow survived all of this and tried to turn to Maddie? That sleeper agent wouldâve been activated immediately, and Caitlyn wouldâve been even more screwed.
Now letâs look at Jinx. Without Vi, Jinx wouldâve either:
Gone completely off the rails.
Packed up with Isha and bailed.
Tried to save Vander alone and died in the process.
And even if Jinx, Isha, and Vander made it to the commune? No Caitlyn there to fight with them. No extra hextech gemstones for Isha to load into Jinxâs gun. No injured Vi to force them to work together. They all wouldâve died. Jinx may be smart, but one gun versus Warwick-Vander, Ambessa, Riktus, and Caitlyn (still manipulated by Ambessa) isnât going to end well.
No Vi = No Jinx coming to save Caitlyn in the final fight. No Jinx showing up with Ekko to blow up Viktorâs face with literal timebombs. No united Zaun rallying to help.
No Caitlyn = No one to help Mel take down Ambessa.
No Jinx = No united Zaun in the final fight.
No Ekko = No world-saving explosions.
ALL IâM SAYING IS: Caitlyn and Vi needed to be apart. It wasnât just about saving themselves or (ironically) their relationshipâit was about saving THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD.
ahhhh.. ah . glad you see youâre all witnessing my Problem with wips.. they accumulate at record speeds
hereâs a wip for @venomwrites fic marionettes! theyâre an amazing writer you should check them out :)
I'm dumb! Been looking for a bit and CANNOT find this fic, any help?! đđ
Great analysis thread here talking about how Vander/Warwick had to have deliberately let Jinx go in this scene in order for her to get away
That the flashback is indeed his memory being triggered, parallelling episode 4 where he lets her go after he recognizes her and her bomb
Echoed in Wasteland playing during the scene which ends with the line "Please let me go."
I also wanted to add the point that Vander letting Jinx go here would also parallel Jinx having just let Vi go (both literally/physically, and emotionally/symbolically)
I didn't need to cry today thank you! đđ
YO!!!!! Is Paint the Town Blue referring to CAITLYN?!?
She's the Commander now, she's in power, her BLUE banners are being put up all over Zaun, the BLUE uniformed enforcers she is ordering are flooding Zaun and policing the border, obviously her hair, eyes, and overall colour is blue (always been a pretty interesting parallel between her and Jinx for me). The song is not only playing over scenes showing support for Jinx growing, but also of what increasing measures Caitlyn is going to in order to hunt her down.
Thinking of this, this song now feels like Paint the Town Blue is referring to the war in general going on fueled by support for Jinx vs Caitlyn's hunt for revenge. The war between them is Painting the Town Blue!!!!!
(I don't even care if I'm late to this realization, this just hit me and its SO COOL!!!!)
I know absolutely NOTHING about Katarina other than she is apparently straight?! BUT, you cannot tell me this woman, the visual love child of Caitlyn and Vi....is straight?! You're telling me that a woman with dark pink hair swept to the side, a fighter, who is wearing dark blue and gold clothing, with elegance to her movements.........is NOT supposed to make us think of the GAYEST couple in this franchise?!? I'm sorry this is literally CaitVi as a person, WHAT DO YOU MEAN SHES STRAIGHT?!?
âCaitlynâs a monster, sure she was hunting chem barons using precision strikes to minimize damage but she unleashed a dangerous substance into Zaun that could hurt people for her own goal!â
âOUR HERO!â