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To the anon who asked for references to providers, then said "please don't post." it's not possible to answer your question privately if you ask as anon. Send a private message if you want a private answer. Thanks.
Also we don't monitor this Tumblr account frequently anymore; better to ask questions via 4thwavenow.com site.
From Dr. Lisa Littman, researcher conducting this study:
This note is to ask for your help in reaching out to possible participants for a study regarding the experiences of people who have desisted or detransitioned. The purpose of this research is to explore: 1) which factors may or may not be related to the development of and desistance from transgender identification; 2) whether or not individuals experienced changes in their sexual orientation during and after transgender-identification; and 3) what kinds of counseling and informed consent were received by those who sought medical care to transition. Specifically, we are looking for participants living in the United States who are: 18-33 years of age, previously identified as transgender, but do not currently identify as transgender. An eligibility screening interview will be conducted by videoconference call. Eligible individuals who are willing to participate will complete an online survey administered through Qualtrics. The study is approved by the Brown University HRPP.
Please consider sharing the recruitment flyer on social media, with anyone you know who might be eligible, or with any community where there might be people who are eligible. If you have any questions about the study, please feel free to contact me at: [email protected]
PLEASE SHARE.
If you have detransitioned or desisted, please consider participating in this research project. Even if you've moved on from gender issues in your own life, your participation will be vital to help others and contribute to knowledge about this understudied and growing phenomenon.
In response to our most recent article about Dr. Curtis Crane, we have been contacted by one of Crane’s former patients, who asked us to share this video. Be aware that the video contains gra…
We have been asked to share this video widely. In the words of this courageous former patient:
“I feel like there's a lot of silencing in regards to these complications...maybe on the [trans] community side, they're so protective of these surgeons....like these surgeons are gods....they're helping us and we have to kind of take whatever we can get...
My entire goal with this is not to tell people whether they should or should not have phalloplasty. What I want is for people to have true, true--and I mean true informed consent...
There's many other people w/ similar--worse--experiences w/these surgeries. I don't want my story to be used asked anybody....but, hey, these are facts. And if anyone wants to come after me, go right ahead, because I have full documentation and I'm not afraid....
I'm going to post pictures in here. They're not pretty pictures. I want to show the reality of it....I'm sharing my story so that if there are people who are really considering getting this surgery, to go into it with the mindset that anything can happen."
by Helena Helena is a 21-year-old woman who identified first as nonbinary, and later as a transgender man, from 2013 through 2018. In 2016, she began medical transition by taking testosterone, and …
Just leaving this here, in the (empty?) Belly of the Beast, as it were...
Thread by @4th_WaveNow: "1. LONG THREAD: Testosterone for nonbinary 13-year-olds, in the latest batch of leaked posts from the affirmative paseveral threads, multiple mothers appear to claim that Dr. Olson-Kennedy is prescribing T to middle schoolers […]"
Whatever your views on trans issues, doesn’t the public deserve a vigorous discussion about the ethics of prescribing testosterone to nonbinary 13-year-olds? Many effects of T are irreversible. Simple question: Why must a person wait until 18 to get a tattoo (which is arguably more reversible than T), but--at least in the US--can receive a powerful controlled substance from gender doctors, as a “nonbinary” or “genderqueer” 13-year-old?
Many of these middle schoolers are no doubt Tumblrites. What do the Adults in the Room on Tumblr think?
“Just to be clear: Parents are buying lifelike model penises to put in the pants of their TODDLERS. This is good, and if you think it isn't you are literally a Nazi. https://t.co/TBlH3TT1gL”
Parents of trans kids, in one of the largest online forums (8000+ members), discuss the logistics of buying and using fake penises for their preschoolers.
4thWaveNow reached out to Gallus Mag of GenderTrender after WordPress dumped the site yesterday. In her most recent post, Gallus Mag broke the full story of a Canadian MTF trans activist who has l…
Gallus Mag: “ I would like to thank everyone who supported GenderTrender, with your readership, contributions, re-posts, and your beautiful beautiful comments. You taught me so much. What an incredible honor. I'm especially sad for the elimination of certain contributor posts, especially "FTM Detransitioning Experience: Quitting T and Getting Back to Life As A Woman" which was always one of my top rated posts and a source of great comfort and information for women looking to get off testosterone, many of whom shared vital perspectives in the comments. Also some of the guest posts from women recovering from partnership with autogynephiles ("trans widows") with extensive critical information in comments from other survivors. “
When I was a Ph.D. student in sexology, I had a conversation with a colleague that forever cemented, in my mind, why I needed to speak out against the transitioning of children with gender dysphoria. Nowadays, every left-leaning parent and educator seems content to take a child’s word at face value if they say they were born in the wrong body, not realizing that by doing so, an important conversation is being brushed aside. On the day in question, our research lab had just finished our weekly meeting, and I chatted with my colleague as I packed up my things to head back to my office. He had told me previously about his son, who from the moment he was born, announced that a mistake had been made—“I’m a girl,” he would say. As a little boy, his son loved playing with dolls. He would wear his mother’s dresses and high heels, and wanted to grow his hair long like Princess Jasmine from the movie, “Aladdin.” At school, he preferred the company of girls to …
“ And as I’ve watched as glowing stories about transgender children have flooded every progressive news outlet over the last few years, every one of them appalls and saddens me. Because the underlying story that the public isn’t privy to is that many of these children would have grown up to be gay, but are instead undergoing a new form of conversion therapy. ..”
“Children will say they 'are' the opposite sex because that’s the only language they have to express to adults that they want to do things the opposite sex does.”
by Emily Williams Emily is a 20-year old college junior at a selective liberal arts university in the US. She is using a pseudonym for obvious reasons. As her time permits, Emily is available to in…
“It seemed that most of the students who were suddenly transitioning were biological females who were smart but socially awkward. They revealed their identities as trans men, usually through a haircut and new wardrobe, followed by a Facebook post alerting associates to a name and pronoun change. They would soon take to social media, student forums, and classroom discussions to rant about “cis privilege,” how oppressed they are because they get stared at by strangers, how they want to assault people who misgender them, and how in love with their “queer” identities they are.
A few weeks ago, a research paper was published suggesting that the recent increase in transgender identification among young people is the result of social contagion. This seems obvious to me. Yet officials at Brown University censored this paper.
I shouldn’t be surprised. This is a topic that we can’t discuss on my college campus, either.There is no doubt in my mind that there is a social contagion among college students. At my school, it is trendy to be transgender, and to people who feel like they don’t fit in, particularly with other people of their biological sex, choosing to transition to the opposite sex, and become a member of the opposite sex, may certainly seem like a more viable option than continuing to feel rejected while trying to fit in. “
Were you harmed by gender transition treatment you received as a minor?
Researchers looking into under-18 gender transition are interested in communicating (anonymously if requested) with people who believe they were harmed in any way by treatment they received as under-18 patients at a US-based clinic. Of particular interest: Patients who received care at a gender clinic affiliated with one of the medical centers below:
Children’s Hospital Los Angeles
Lurie Children’s Hospital
UCSF Benioff Children’s Hospital
Boston Children’s Hospital
If interested, please respond to this request by writing to the following email address: [email protected]. To participate, you will be expected to provide evidence (anonymized at your discretion) that you received services at one of the aforementioned clinics (or another affirmative-care clinic).
Please note: Researchers are aware of a previous effort by a rightwing organization to contact detransitioners. This request for participants is in no way affiliated with that prior effort.
Also please note: Hateful and/or troll responses will be deleted.
Hey there. I was wondering what your opinion of nonbinary people was? Are you accepting of them or do you hate them like you hate all trans people?
I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is a serious question.
1. I don’t hate trans people. Questioning the wisdom of medical transition of youth does not equal hatred. Of anyone.
2. We are all “nonbinary,” with the possible exception of Barbie and Ken dolls (and I mean actual dolls, not real humans). No person is 100% compliant with sex role stereotypes. It used to be called “personality” before postmodern academics had their field day and turned the wonder of human diversity into an infinite collection of labels and “identities” that must be parsed, “validated,” and enforced.
Wouldn’t it be a more productive use of time to just be yourself, stop policing the words and thoughts of strangers on the Internet, and find some small way to make life better for the other inhabitants of this fragile planet?
I’m not sure what Dirt hopes to accomplish by combing through Maria Catt’s/Carrie Callahan’s social media presence over the past several years looking for “discrepancies” in her story. When you transition and then stop, a big part of that is a profound series of changes in how you understand yourself and your life. It shouldn’t be a big shock that there are conflicting narratives in a detransitioned woman’s account of how she understands herself and where she understands herself belonging over a period of years. That’s kinda the whole point.
Anyway, I know Carrie offline, IRL, and she’s the real deal. She definitely, really, truly, without a doubt started medically transitioning and then stopped. I am grateful and honored to have witnessed, face to face and heart to heart, parts of her life when she was in deep self-discovery and in the throes of those changes. She’s been pretty clear and open that some of the ways transition changed her are painful and difficult. And I’m not sure why someone would choose to poke at those places for sport. Likewise, I’m not sure why anyone thinks violence and love can’t coexist in the same family. I’m really not getting what the “gotcha” is supposed to consist of here–or what the significance is supposed to be.
Regardless, I know Carrie to be a woman of integrity and mega ovaries in terms of laying bare some vulnerable truths about her life–which is a whole, full, messy, rich life, not reducible to soundbites or easily contained in fundamentalist frameworks of any kind. I am proud to call her a friend and she’s well loved and supported by many other lesbian feminists and separatists, too–she doesn’t have to be a lesbian herself to belong among us in her own right. She’s a force of nature who does so much for other women–an amazon. She’s one of us, she’s with us, and we’re all right behind her.
Thanks for this post. Attempting to character assassinate a fine woman who has the courage to put her personal life at risk to help other women and young people is a terrible “hobby.”
I get requests all the time for evidence that most trans-identified kids grow out of it, the vast majority of them going on to be gay or lesbian adults. Here you go. Plenty of studies, helpfully compiled by Dr. James Cantor at this link:
http://www.sexologytoday.org/2016/01/do-trans-kids-stay-trans-when-they-grow_99.html?spref=tw
Of course, nowadays, we’re influencing kids to STAY trans by “socially transitioning” them, using “preferred pronouns,” and puberty blockers. Wouldn’t it be interesting to just leave them alone instead of reassuring them that they really ARE the opposite sex, given how high the medical stakes are?
Parents urging and/or assisting minor children to transition is a form of conversion therapy. It is a way for their gender non-confirming child to grow up “normal”, i.e. not gay or lesbian. It’s a form of social control. It’s a form of gay and lesbian erasure.
A couple of decades ago the talk was of genetics or pre-natal hormones, i.e. finding some way to identify gay and lesbian fetuses in the womb (with the implied possibility of parents terminating such an unwanted and/or defective offspring).
Now parents can just wait until a gay or lesbian child goes through a typical (for the gender non-confirming gay or lesbian) gay or lesbian toddlerhood or childhood before they consider exercising their “parental option” of socially changing their gender and even medically altering their child’s body.
This is a form of child abuse.
Please note that I’ve made it clear that not all gay and lesbian children are gender non-conforming and for a time may wish to be the opposite sex. Some and only some are gender non-conforming.
I was one of those gender non-conforming girls. A tomboy always being mistaken for a real boy. That is until puberty…when with the rush of hormones and a sudden influx of new 7th grade girls to my K -12 all girls school I began to understand that I might be a lesbian. I forgot all about wanting to be a boy. I just wanted to be with my best girlfriend all the time. Two years later it was handholding, back rubs, and my secret fantasies of kissing her. My lifelong obsession with Greta Garbo, Kate Hepburn, Audrey Hepburn, Barbrara Stanwyck, and Marilyn Monroe movies grew exponentially. A not a-typical lesbian adolescence in the 1970s which developed from a not a-typical gender non-conforming lesbian childhood of the 1950s and 1960s.
What if my parents had “assisted” me in socially, or even worse, medically transitioning with puberty blockers? What would have happened to the “me” of me? What would ever have given my parents the right to sign away myself and my future body on a doctor’s Consent Form?
Where are the medical ethicists?
Please note that this has nothing to do with Intersexed individuals. And please note the long history of parents making the wrong decisions in those cases when children are born or well into childhood. This disastrous history should give us pause as we deal with parents making decisions for gender non-confirming children that most likely will have long-term if not life-time negative physical and emotional consequences.
Yes--where are the medical ethicists?
“What if my parents had “assisted” me in socially, or even worse, medically transitioning with puberty blockers? What would have happened to the “me” of me? What would ever have given my parents the right to sign away myself and my future body on a doctor’s Consent Form?”
Female detransition and reidentification: Survey results and interpretation
This survey was created for anyone female/AFAB who formerly self-described as transgender. This includes women who transitioned, whether socially and/or medically, and subsequently detransitioned, as well as individuals who still identify as nonbinary or genderfluid, but have desisted from medical or social transition.
The survey ran from August 16 to August 30, 2016 and was shared through Tumblr, Facebook groups, and on the Wordpress blog 4thWaveNow. After removing several obviously fake responses and responses from individuals who had not stopped transition, the total response count was 203. Leaving aside all the other data this provides, the sheer number of responses is pretty amazing. Given that the survey was open for 2 weeks and was shared through a couple of Facebook groups, most of which were private, and Tumblr, I think we can safely say that detransitioners are not quite as rare as some would like to have us think. Other than that, there are a couple of points I’d like to elaborate on along with presenting the data.
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Until gender specialists/researchers decide to actually study what’s happening with young detransitioned women, the incredible work Cari has done with this survey will have to **continue** to be done by unpaid bloggers. Ditto for reporting on the troubling aspects of pediatric transition: that work is also left to unpaid bloggers, given the refusal of mainstream media to raise any questions about the increasing number of children, teenagers, and young adults being swept up in the transition trend.
Cari is a 22-year-old detransitioned woman who was interviewed recently on 4thWaveNow about her experiences as a former teen client of Transactive Gender Center in Portland, OR. Cari wrote to us t…
We’ve been contacted by a researcher in the United Kingdom who is launching a study of people who’ve chosen to reverse any kind of sex reassignment surgery. Please disseminate this anno…
If you know anyone who would be appropriate for this study, please direct them to the researcher. Email is in the linked post.
