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People who say the Netflix ASOUE show is "too colourful" always confuse me.

Like, while the show IS overall brighter and more saturated than the movie, a ton of the locations aren't actually that colourful? Most of the overall locations seen in a set of episodes, are usually pretty colourless apart from maybe a splash of something in the background. There are a few exceptions like TRR and TE. And compared to a lot of other tv shows, it's actually much less colourful and bright?

IDK, the show having some colourful locations never bothered me. Just because the 2004 movie came out first doesn't mean everything that comes after it should have a similar look.

For me the show is something I really treat as its own thing because it's clearly got made by people who have their own ideas about how they think the story ought to be told (and I do the same for the movie) that's not to say one has to like it even with that viewpoint (again, just like the movie.)

But I do feel that I sometimes see an attitude expressed both consciously and unconsciously on here that the creatives involved with the show and the movie misunderstood the books, which I do think is wrong.

Like, the show's version of TE IS a pretty weak adaptation of the book that wrapped up the story of the previous 12 volumes, but as an ending to the show's previous 24 episodes, I think it works exceptionally well.

I feel that the show will go down the same path as the movie where the flaws and differences from this source material that stand out now will be seen in a more forgiving and accepting light when the people who got introduced to Snicket via it, become large parts of the fandom.

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Set Picture from Season 2 of The Mysterious Benedict Society Confirms that Portugal Will Appear In the Show As a Location

"Pedestrian on the #mysteriousbenedictsociety shot to be based in Lisbon, actually located in LA." - From Instagram

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Thoughts on Why People Tend To Prefer the Movie's Version of TWW to the Show's

Now, this is just a collection of a few idle thoughts about how I've seen people talk about these episodes on here.

I know some people prefer the show's version and others like them both equally. But in general, I've found that people tend to rate TWW: Parts 1/2 as the weakest of season 1 while putting something like TMM: Parts 1/2 as the strongest.

Personally, I feel this is largely due to the fact that both TWW and TMM are rather repetitious books that got adapted in different ways. 

TMM was essentially restructured from the ground up with many scenes being changed, added, and cut in order to allow a better-paced plot with a bit more intrigue and suspense, whereas TWW essentially just expanded the book and didn't really change or delete all that much.

This is why, unlike TRR, TWW actually benefits from the movie's ruthless editing of books 2 and 3, IMO. TWW is already so repetitious that cutting out most of the plot and leaving only the really memorable bits like Josephine's phobias, the leeches, and Hurricane Herman works.

Of course, it also doesn't hurt that TWW in the film also gets over half an hour to itself while TRR only runs for about 15 minutes. In fact, if you added 20-25 minutes to the movie's TWW you'd get a full-length episode of the show which covered pretty much the entire book. 

However, I will defend the tv version's take on the Hurricane Herman scene.

Remember, the movie cost nearly $200 million, had years of pre-production, and nearly 9 months of filming. Meanwhile, the show had to pull it together on a tv budget, with barely any prep, to be filmed as part of a 2.5-week block.

Judged by the standards of a tv show it's perfectly fine and I can see why they went for a more cartoony approach so the faker look wouldn't stand out as much.

IDK, what do you all think?

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Concept art by John Davis for the Barry Sonnenfeld version of the 2004 Lemony Snicket movie.

Interesting to see how much of it was reused by Brad Silberling.

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I Got Access To A Shooting Script For The 2004 Lemony Snicket Movie, So Here's a Deleted Scene You Can't Get On the DVD

EXT. DAMOCLES DOCK - LATER

The children are all alone on the rickety dock except for a FISHERMAN (CAPTAIN SAM) boarding up his windows in a nearby shack.

KLAUS -"Aunt Josephine?"

VIOLET - Never heard of her. Sunny?

SUNNY(shakes her head) - Ana. ("Nope.")

A long beat.

KLAUS - Does it strike you as odd that none of our relatives are related to us?

Violet sighs.

VIOLET - I wish we could just give the money away and get rid of him forever.

KLAUS - It's not just the money. It's bigger than the money.

Klaus sees Captain Sam finish hammering a sign that says "CLOSED FOR HURRICANE HERMAN."

KLAUS - A hurricane? I've never heard of a hurricane on a lake.

CAPTAIN SAM (not looking up) - Big lake.

They turn, surprised he was listening.

CAPTAIN SAM (O.S.) - So you're kin to Josephine Antwhistle?

VIOLET - Yes, we are.

CAPTAIN SAM - Brave woman that one dat one dere.

KLAUS - Oh, you know her!?

CAPTAIN SAM - No can't say as I do young feller. It's a right blue moon when she comes to town.

KLAUS - Then why do you say she's brave?

CAPTAIN SAM - Have to be, to live up der aywah.

He points to...

AUNT JOSEPHINE'S HOUSE

It's perched precariously at the very top of the hill, supported by stilts on the side of a very high cliff. It looks as if it's going to topple over at any moment.

AUNT JOSEPHINE'S HOUSE - FRONT DOOR

Violet knocks on the door as the taxi drives off behind them. The door opens a crack and a nervous, pale woman peeks out. AUNT JOSEPHINE.

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Doing a Q and A with a storyboard artist who worked on the 2004 Snicket movie. Feel free to submit questions below.

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I found photos of an unreleased deleted scene featuring Fernald joining Stephano in a back and forth with Mr Poe at Uncle Monty's house.

A slightly irritating aspect about the movie is that they cut most of the troupe's scenes but still expected the audience to recognize them. IDK, as a kid who hadn't read the books, I had no idea Dr Lucafont was him, or that he was even hook-handed.

He hadn't been on screen enough until his final one in the tower.

If you watch the scene as it plays out in the finished movie, you'll notice that it a number of moments appear to have been swapped around and cut entirely. For example, Lucafont will appear in some shots but then disappear in others.

Not to mention that most of the actual dialogue has clearly been dubbed over footage of the actors' backs and sometimes doesn't even match what they are doing on camera.

The most obvious moment of this is when Lucafont says that going to Peru "could be the only chance for them to get closure" while clearly facing away from everyone else in the scene and not moving his mouth. (This happens at roughly the 15 second mark in the video below).

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Lemony Snicket (2004) - Unreleased Deleted Scenes Collection [Part 13]

After a lot of research, I have finally completed this masterpost of all the deleted and alternate scenes from the 2004 film that I could find solid evidence of. Many of which can't be found in the DVD's deleted scenes section. I'm uploading it in multiple parts because there are a lot of HQ pictures and gifs.

This snippet from a tv spot behind the scenes photo shows that there was originally a section of the scene where Violet was seen being led onto the stage.

It also would've shown Justice Strauss' nervousness on stage.

The DVD's outtakes section includes this alternative version of Count Olaf's supposed punishments. I say supposed because in the original cut none of them were meant to be actually real. At the end of the sequence, Lemony Snicket was supposed to intone that he "wishes this were the story he could tell".

Lemony would then show us what really happened as Count Olaf escaped from the theatre before anyone could catch him. Cryptically telling Violet that "there are more of us than there are of you" before yelling that he'll return.

Only the second half of this scene is presented on the DVD, in the deleted scenes section.

I have included some HD footage from the final trailer as well.

Given that all the effects were finished and it was still appearing in marketing in October/November, it's pretty clear that this was cut very close to release much like the Incredibly Deadly Viper shot and the scene where Mr Poe talked with the children as he drove down Lousy Lane.

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Lemony Snicket (2004) - Unreleased Deleted Scenes Collection [Part 12]

After a lot of research, I have finally completed this masterpost of all the deleted and alternate scenes from the 2004 film that I could find solid evidence of. Many of which can't be found in the DVD's deleted scenes section. I'm uploading it in multiple parts because there are a lot of HQ pictures and gifs.

In this scene, which can be found in the DVD's outtakes section, the critic and the cop would have introduced themselves to each other and begun to comment on the play. The sequence would've kept cutting back to them as various events unfolded and they gave their thoughts on them.

iAnother deleted scene on the DVD showed one of the White-Faced Women complains to Violet about the unpleasant life of an actor in the theatre while the other enters with Klaus in his camel costume, thus explaining why, in the finished film, he's wearing an odd brown blanket.

Here is a reconstruction of the scene, as it might have played had it stayed in the movie. This is very difficult to do with most of the deleted footage on the DVD as it's incomplete and so can't just easily slot in.

However, in this case, the missing seconds could be found in one of the movie's tv spots (albeit heavily covered with music).

The Bluray's deleted scenes include The Hook Handed Man introducing the play and pretending to be a pirate, only to be yanked offstage by an angry Olaf.

This behind the scenes picture shows another cut moment of the Hook-Handed man interacting with the audience. (The Olaf bust done in the style of Brett Helquist's illustrations is a nice touch.)

The bluray's deleted scenes also includes this one of the Henchperson of Indeterminate Gender trying to encourage Violet to look on the bright side of things. It doesn't work.

This scene shows the play in full swing as Olaf and the Hook Handed man play two men enlisted in the foreign legion. It appears in the DVD's deleted scenes section.

As the play goes on, Olaf responds to some hecklers (presumably from a section which isn't on the DVD) and throws a bloodied head at the audience.

Olaf gasps in shock when he sees his camel is not Klaus but the Bald Man. Whom Klaus has switched places with. Having convinced him by saying it'll give him a chance to actually be on stage during the show.

Olaf angrily demands that the curtain be closed and Klaus found at once. This scene can also be found in the DVD's deleted scene section.

Klaus tries to avoid being found by the Hook-Handed man as he makes his way across the backyard and towards the house. This scene can also be found in the deleted scenes section on the DVD.

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Lemony Snicket (2004) - Unreleased Deleted Scenes Collection [Part 11]

After a lot of research, I have finally completed this masterpost of all the deleted and alternate scenes from the 2004 film that I could find solid evidence of. Many of which can't be found in the DVD's deleted scenes section. I'm uploading it in multiple parts because there are a lot of HQ pictures and gifs.

One of the outtakes on the DVD shows the first half of a scene that ended up being cut out of the film. In the finished movie after Aunt Josephine warns Klaus about going the fridge, it cuts to her asking the children if they would like to see some pictures. The scene would have had Klaus return to the table as and Aunt Josephine telling the children about lonely she is and how much she misses Ike. Violet asks what her Ike did and Josephine reveals that he was "an explorer and an investigator". The scene is cut off by Kara (Or Shelby) Hoffman falling asleep in the middle of the take and the cast laughing. Presumably, this would have been followed up by Klaus asking if Ike investigated fires and Aunt Josephine either denying it or being very vague. This would have been payed off later by the moment in the finished film when Klaus sees Ike's room and says "he was investigating fires".

Here we see the fate of the kindly Captain Sam. Josephine asks Captain Sham where he's gone and Olaf tells her that he had to leave as he was getting "that sinking feeling".

This behind the scenes photo also shows that the sign on Captain Sam's booth has now been hastily repainted to read "Captain Sham".

The DVD's outtakes include a short scene of Captain Sham flirting with Aunt Josephine as they stroll through town, walking towards Olaf's car.

One of the DVD's behind the scene documentaries includes a short snippet from the leach attack that didn't end up in the finished movie.

The DVD's deleted scenes contain an extended version of Count Olaf's approach towards the boat which includes him singing a sea shanty in his Captain Sham voice.

Which can be heard above.

The deleted scenes also contain this moment where Count Olaf threatens Josephine's life far more directly than in the finished film and laughs at her terror.

Josephine's death was originally much longer and actually seen on screen but much of it also ended up getting cut. Luckily, some of it is also included in the DVD's deleted scenes section.

Originally, the audience was meant to see what every supporting character was up to during the Marvelous Marriage. In this scene from the Bluray's deleted scenes section (it is nowhere to be found on the DVD's), the bald-headed man is the play's only technician, running around making sure everything was being set up correctly. Arthur and Polly Poe (her only appearance in any adaptation) excitedly make their way through the line at Marvelous Marriage premier. They, like a couple of other characters, were originally going to be commenting on the play as it unfolded.

The Bluray's outtakes show that Count Olaf was going to start off the sequence in his tower room, with the Henchperson of Indeterminate Gender applying his makeup and wig.

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Lemony Snicket (2004) - Unreleased Deleted Scenes Collection [Part 10]

After a lot of research, I have finally completed this masterpost of all the deleted and alternate scenes from the 2004 film that I could find solid evidence of. Many of which can't be found in the DVD's deleted scenes section. I'm uploading it in multiple parts because there are a lot of HQ pictures and gifs.

Keep in mind though that the movie was still being written as it was being shot and edited so not all the scenes may match with each other. Not to mention the fact that my efforts are still partially guesswork, so feel free to offer your own opinions.

CINEFEX Magazine has a still frame from yet another deleted closeup of the Incredibly Deadly Viper.

A deleted shot of Sunny being "attacked" by the Incredibly Deadly Viper which appears in one of the DVD's bonus documentaries.

Another deleted shot of Sunny playing with the Incredibly Deadly Viper also appears in the same bonus documentary.

Here we have yet another lengthy scene, and indeed an entire supporting character, who appears neither in the movie or on the DVD.

Instead of cutting away from the children at Damocles Dock, we would have followed them talking amongst each other as they walked towards the lakeside town. The footage is from the film's first US trailer.

The children would've then been met by Captain Sam, a kindly local sailboat rental agent who would engage them in a friendly chat while putting up a sign on the dock.

(At least, I'm assuming he put the sign up, since it's not there in the footage of the children walking towards the town.)

(Captain Sam was played by Canadian comedian Wayne Flemming, one of Jim Carrey's mentors and someone who often had small roles in his movies.)

This is a set photo of another cut scene between Violet and Klaus, where they would have talked about Aunt Josephine and Klaus' continuing suspicions about their parent's death and Aunt Josephine. Yet another scene from Klaus' character arc that got cut.

This picture shows another scene that would have likely followed that one (since there's nowhere else it can fit) which would showed the children attempting to relax in Aunt Josephine's creaky and cold home until she called them for lunch.

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My head knows that it very well could be something non-Snicket related bc DH does write books under his own name BUT combined with THIS

And DH’s own cryptic posts I am hopeful

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Keep in mind, too. Colin Meloy is married to Carson Ellis. THIS Carson Ellis.

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Lemony Snicket (2004) - Unreleased Deleted Scenes Collection [Part 9]

After a lot of research, I have finally completed this masterpost of all the deleted and alternate scenes from the 2004 film that I could find solid evidence of. Many of which can't be found in the DVD's deleted scenes section. I'm uploading it in multiple parts because there are a lot of HQ pictures and gifs.

Keep in mind though that the movie was still being written as it was being shot and edited so not all the scenes may match with each other. Not to mention the fact that my efforts are still partially guesswork, so feel free to offer your own opinions.

A tv spot for the film shows an alternate line from the scene where the children first meet 'Stephano' where he says that [Count Olaf] "sounds like a very impressive title".

Two different tv spots also show a cut moment where Stephano fiddles with his glasses.

A cut moment from Stephano's conversation with Uncle Monty where he says "and then the unthinkable happened". It can be found in the film's second US trailer.

These behind the scenes photos show an alternate/extended version of the children discovering Uncle Monty's body.

It appears that one point, unlike in the finished film where he barely appears on camera and has few lines, Dr Lucafont would have joined Stephano in a back and forth dialogue with the Police detective and Mr Poe.  Interestingly, if you watch the scene as it plays out in the finished movie, you'll notice that it a number of moments appear to have been swapped around and cut entirely. For example, Lucafont will appear in some shots but then disappear in others.

Not to mention that most of the actual dialogue has clearly been dubbed over footage of the actors' backs and sometimes doesn't even match what they are doing on camera.  The most obvious moment of this is when Lucafont says that going to Peru "could be the only chance for them to get closure" while clearly facing away from everyone else in the scene and not moving his mouth. (This happens at roughly the 15 second mark in the video below).

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Lemony Snicket (2004) - Unreleased Deleted Scenes Collection [Part 8]

After a lot of research, I have finally completed this masterpost of all the deleted and alternate scenes from the 2004 film that I could find solid evidence of. Many of which can't be found in the DVD's deleted scenes section. I'm uploading it in multiple parts because there are a lot of HQ pictures and gifs.

Keep in mind though that the movie was still being written as it was being shot and edited so not all the scenes may match with each other. Not to mention the fact that my efforts are still partially guesswork, so feel free to offer your own opinions.

As the children desperately try to foil his plan and divert the train, Count Olaf taste tests different sodas inside the Last Chance General Store and tries to guess their brands. This scene appears in one of the DVD's behind the scenes documentaries.

Footage from a tv spot and this photo show a deleted moment from the scene where the Baudelaires get taken out of Olaf's custody.

Originally there was to have been a dialogue scene between Mr Poe and the children as he drives them to Uncle Monty's house and pulls into the drive. Intriguingly, this isn't a set photo but an actual still from the movie itself. One that was distributed to members of the press mere weeks before it was set to release. This means that some version of the scene actually had completed VFX and colour grading before it got cut.  The aforementioned article in CINEFEX Magazine, also makes reference to this cut scene. "Lousy Lane exteriors were created digitally, inspired by photographs Tang and other members of the crew took in a marshy area north of San Francisco. The exterior environment was created in 3D, from scratch, and was used in 10 shots of the car driving through the marshlands. Locked off establishing shots of Uncle Monty's house were created with 2D matte paintings"

This is notable because the final cut only has three shots featuring the car driving down Lousy Lane, and no 2D Matte Paintings establishing shots of Uncle Monty's house. This suggests that the scene would have been fairly lengthy, at least a minute long.

It's late deletion also explains why, in the finished movie, there's a very jarring cut from the car driving down Lousy Lane, to it pulling into Uncle Monty's driveway.

An alternate shot of Uncle Monty inviting the children into the Reptile Room from the film's second US trailer.

Here we have yet another still from the movie, this one showing a shot of the Incredibly Deadly Viper in its cage. For some reason, most of its scenes and close-ups got cut out of the movie.

This one clearly stayed in for most of the post-production process before also being cut.

The DVD's deleted scenes section includes a montage of the children enjoying life at Monty's house. It's unclear whether these were originally meant to be longer scenes or if it was always intended to be like this.

An alternate version of Stephano's entrance from the film's international trailer.

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Lemony Snicket (2004) - Unreleased Deleted Scenes Collection [Part 7]

After a lot of research, I have finally completed this masterpost of all the deleted and alternate scenes from the 2004 film that I could find solid evidence of. Many of which can't be found in the DVD's deleted scenes section. I'm uploading it in multiple parts because there are a lot of HQ pictures and gifs.

Keep in mind though that the movie was still being written as it was being shot and edited so not all the scenes may match with each other. Not to mention the fact that my efforts are still partially guesswork, so feel free to offer your own opinions.

The outtakes section also includes another cut moment where Count Olaf lounges around on the ground while the children finish cooking dinner and begin to serve it.

The DVD's deleted scenes includes this cut sequence. After the children fail to serve roast beef, Olaf hops onto the table and destroys all their hard work, leading to thunderous applause from his troupe.

Interestingly, this behind the scenes photo shows a deleted moment from this already deleted scene, that didn't make its way onto the DVD's version.

This sequence would have taken place after the scene where the children build their sanctuary. Instead of cutting directly to the custody hearing, all three would have been rudely awakened by Count Olaf who would then drag them out of the house and to the court.

This scene would also have shown the troupe lazing around in a drunken stupor on the house's ground floor with the two white-faced women in a state of undress, implying Olaf had slept with them.

This is a very rough attempt to show how it would've gone with a clip from one of the TV spots spliced into the finished movie.

This scene would likely have followed that one and shows the troupe lazing around in a drunken stupor on the house's ground floor with the two white-faced women in a state of undress, implying Olaf had slept with them. 

This would explain why the troupe weren't with Olaf at the Courthouse and the Last Chance General store.

This photo shows a moment that was either cut or replaced from the train sequence where Olaf says something very dramatic to the children while wearing his long top hat.

A deleted shot of the car on the railroad tracks that ended up in the international trailer.

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Jeeves and Wooster casting

Because the casting director of this show was on drugs… I decided to compile the various changes in actors throughout the seasons. Because I know it was a pain in the ass for me to keep track of who was who (I thought I had prosopagnosia for a second lol)

Aunt Agatha

Mary Wimbush (series 1, 2 and 3)

Elizabeth Spriggs (series 4)

Madeline Bassett

Francesca Folan (series 1)

Diana Blackburn (series 2)

Elizabeth Morton (series 3 and 4)

Aunt Dahlia

Brenda Bruce (series 1)

Vivian Pickles (series 2)

Patricia Lawrence (series 3)

Jean Heywood (series 4)

Gussie Fink-Nottle

Richard Garnett (series 1 and 2)

Richard Braine (series 3 and 4)

Bingo Little

Michael Siberry (series 1 and 2)

Pip Torrens (series 3 and 4)

Sir Roderick Glossop

Roger Brierley (series 1 and 2)

Philip Locke (series 4)

Stiffy Byng

Charlotte Attenborough (series 2 and 4)

Amanda Harris (series 3)

Florence Craye

Fiona Gillies (series 3)

Francesca Folan (series 4)

Bonus:

Richard Braine as Rupert Steggles in series 1

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Fun Fact: Roderick Glossop has also been played by Geoffrey McGivern (aka Ford from the original 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' Radio Series) in a 2014 adaptation of Wodehouse's Blandings stories.

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Lemony Snicket (2004) - Unreleased Deleted Scenes Collection [Part 6]

After a lot of research, I have finally completed this masterpost of all the deleted and alternate scenes from the 2004 film that I could find solid evidence of. Many of which can't be found in the DVD's deleted scenes section. I'm uploading it in multiple parts because there are a lot of HQ pictures and gifs.

Keep in mind though that the movie was still being written as it was being shot and edited so not all the scenes may match with each other. Not to mention the fact that my efforts are still partially guesswork, so feel free to offer your own opinions.

In this scene, Count Olaf gives a monologue to his troupe about the nature of acting and how much money they will all soon have thanks to Violet, Klaus, and Sunny. They then settle down for a nice drinking session.

This scene can be found in one of the DVD's bonus documentaries but not in the deleted scenes.

This photo shows a moment that ended up getting cut from the Puttanesca scene.

In this scene, the troupe all call out characters for Olaf to play while rehearsing their upcoming production of the Marvelous Carriage. Olaf does them all except for the Hook Handed Man's request to play a pirate, which he meets with anger and annoyance. Each member of the troupe seems to have had their own little subplots which ultimately ended up being discarded in the final product. The Hook Handed Man's being a desire to play pirate characters who share his hook hands so he doesn't have to cover them. This DVD's outtakes section contains a portion of the scene, but as the attached photo attests, many more bits were left on the cutting room floor.

In another deleted scene that can be found in the DVD's outtakes section, Olaf auditions the White-Faced Women for a role in his play and implies that they only way they'll be able to get the part is if they sleep with him.  The White-Faced Women's cut subplot seems to have been a desire to not only get bigger parts in Count Olaf's shows but also bed him while disliking each other intensely.

The outtakes also contain this sequence, where Olaf coaches the Henchperson of Indeterminate Gender through a scene while they are suffering from a bout of stage fright. Their cut subplot seeming to be about a lack of confidence in themselves.

A behind the scenes documentary on the DVD includes this shot from another deleted scene of Olaf chatting with his troupe and getting drunk.

A deleted segment from the scene where Count Olaf impersonates a dinosaur that ended up in one of the TV Trailers.

Another deleted moment from the dinosaur scene, where Olaf wanders around the house and scares Klaus off while he and Violet are cooking the puttanesca.

It can be found in the DVD's outtakes section.