shahood

[opbackgrounds]

For the most part I think Oda's done a good job utilizing the Supernovas, but I am pretty disappointed with how Kidd's story turned out. Oda puts in a lot of legwork this arc setting him up as a foil for Luffy, and it's a sort of narrative promise that doesn't get fulfilled to its ultimate potential. Kidd and Luffy don't interact enough for them to bounce of each other. I could have accepted Kidd getting jobbered as an example of how his brand of hot-headed brute strength doesn't cut it in the political landscape of the New World--kind of like a post time skip Moriah--but that story thread didn't get enough attention to make it feel meaningful, especially compared to how much Law's story completely took over the plot after he skyrocketed in popularity.

It's an example of how Oda making shit up on the spot has its downsides. The Supernovas are Oda planting a bunch of seeds for the future seeing what sprouts up from the mess. It leads to some unexpected surprises like Capone Bege on WCI, but also plot lines that wither on the vine before they can bear any fruit.

[murphmurphthejerk]

I 100% agree that Kid got shafted & basically forgotten, but to be honest I just....don't care. lol. I do not feel like anything was lost like op feels. His disappearance from the story doesn't really stand out as an objective failure to anyone outside his dedicated fan base. At least, not so much that it's a glaring failure of Oda's writing like maybe some other things that happened/not happened in the story.

I'm not trying to say Kid as a character sucks and I know there are a decent amount of fans very attached to him, but if it's a toss up between Law or Kid for focus I'm choosing Law every time. I just do not believe any backstory/plot line Oda could've came up with for Kid would've been able to measure up with what we got out of Law in Dressrosa.

Honestly, if Oda wasn't planning on going full villain with Kid then I can really only see him ending up as One Piece's version of Bakugo from MHA. While I love Bakugo I do think his specific trope is pretty overused in shonen at this point & he is the best modern example we have. So much so I fear anyone else trying to do the same would fall short in comparison. Oda might've thought something similar and decided Law would be more fun to work with & thus Kidd got sent to the background. And franky, I'm glad for it. I think we're living in the best timeline.

[twinvenus]

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[serpentires]

surgeon of death

[1000sunnygo]

When will Oda drop 40 y/o and 60 y/o Law and Kidd sketches in SBS..

I wonder if he's waiting to flesh out Kidd's character in the main story first?

Law's future in bad timeline is definitely a Doffy bootlicker Corazon-Law. Can't wait to see it, I hope we won't be disappointed 😩

[akimao]

☆キドロ☆

I need to draw more of this stuff.

[keochoo]

>> @keo_chooo_ on twt

[lizajane2]

Listen, I understand that people like how Bonney was able to form into Nika. I'm happy that YOU like it, YOU can have that opinion. I'm not gonna shit on you for it. But when I say I have mixed feelings on this decision Oda made, don't be an asshole and put me down by saying I'm "a fake fan" or tell me "you're not comprehending" or "Oda does something you don't like so you're just flip-flopping." No, I love One Piece I will always love One Piece, but what happened to being able to question the author without being called a "fake fan"?

I think it's perfectly acceptable to question an author when he or she does something you have mixed feelings about or don't like. What happened to having a conversation like that?

[escuerzoresucitado]

[cacodaemonia]

I know folks have been sharing this link on other posts, but &udm=14 works well:

[fangeek-girl]

You can add it as an extension to Firefox now: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/udm14/reviews/

[impishglee]

growing up is just gradually learning progressively crazier shit abt your family that they didn’t tell you when u were a kid

[captainofthetidesbreath]

is that piece of media actually bad, or is it just not following the blueprint you projected onto it? is that work actually not good, or are you just demanding something from it that is absolutely antithetical to its themes, genre, tone, and narrative goal? is that story actually poorly written, or do you just dislike that it is not the specific things you wanted from it that it never set out to be, never was, and never is going to become? is it actually bad, or is it actually well-executed and you just dislike the story it chose to be because it isn't catering to your specific desires and expectations?

[pinoppll]

some laws (he’s def not my favorite and i hate him)

[voice-of-illogical-sense]

[sexygaywizard]

[keochoo]

>> @keo_chooo_ on twt

[oldrises]

I bet my ass that Law has a secret Germa 66 tattoo. Maybe on the buttcheek.

[oldrises]

props to @dannymans66 for great drawings

[zorititito]

law: i worked for doflamingo for 3 years when i was a kid and participated in things u could never imagine. i learned how to kill maim and plunder from some of the most ruthless people on the seas.

luffy: oh ok so u want revenge against him for the terrible things he made u do?

law: ?

[zorititito]

oh we are cooking w gas....

at the end of the day rosinante did succeed in preventing another doflamingo from being unleashed onto the world but the thing is? while the way law is now is preferable to the road he was headed down as an ope-ope user doflamingo could control, the damage has already been done.

law's reputation in universe is NASTY... characters call him a dangerous, mannerless creep all the time, and shit like hand-delivering 100 pirate hearts to the government for a warlord position is exactly the kind of stunt that doflamingo would approve of. the way he reacts when he feels disrespected or subordinate? leftover from his time as a donquixote pirate. and if you want to take it there, while his pirate identity is a tribute to cora, you can also read his whole heart pirate branding as him taking the heart seat for himself. because surely there's other ways to pay tribute to cora if he reallyyyyyy didn't like what the heart seat represented.

him and doflamingo have the same "fuck the world, destroy everything" impulse, so instead of doflamingo's actions and dealings being worth stopping because they're causing so much suffering to so many people, law objects to doflamingo talking all that game just to end up helping maintain the status quo. i think law betraying doflamingo was inevitable, but more because doflamingo is propping up these relics of the old age after telling a young law about how a storm that would reshape the world and bring forth a new era was coming. doflamingo and his cohorts got too comfortable and law said it to his face. the complacency and betrayal to the ideals law was raised with post-flevance COMBINED with the fact cora sacrificed his life to ensure law could be part of the coming age is something law just cannot stand, so doflamingo has to go.

it was ALWAYS going to be personal and was NEVER going to be for the greater good. i don't think it even factors into his thinking. he originally wanted to start a war between doflamingo and kaido that would ultimately result in doflamingo's defeat, then use the straw hats to clean up kaido once he's been worn down. any collateral damage, any innocents caught in the crossfire, the inevitable take over of dressrosa? inconsequential. he's working on a bigger scale and people who can't survive a war been two of the major powers weren't going to make it anyways. that flippancy towards people who can't fend for themselves and survive the new era...?

very doflamingo

[wiltedcorazonrp]

My 2 cents is that, redirect Law's rage is enough. Law of all people is entitled to be angry at the status quo of the world that take his peaceful life away. It is a failing system that has to be changed.

What Cora wanted for Law is give him a chance to live, to be free; not to educate him into someone else but for Law to have enough time and liberty to educate himself, into whoever Law wants to be.

Of course Law would align with Dof in actions, even Cora could see the similarity between them back in the day. The important part here is, by saving Law, whatever action he take in the future would be his own instead of an extension of Dof. And fundamentally, at their core Law and Dof is different, this Cora would know in their travel time.

Law betraying Dof could be inevitable, given how Dof not really giving any effort into destroying the system that destroyed Law's life. It has the same chances as Dof gaslighting Law into thinking whatever they are doing DOES take a part in destroying the system. And with the blind rage that Law first seek out the pirates with, my bet is on the second scenario.

Law will not act for the greater good, but personally he is not bad, and Cora gave him a chance to stay that way.

[chromatic-lamina]

personally, I think he does act for the greater good in a number of cases too—breaking the gears, destroying the SMILE factories. There is deep-seated personal motivation, but he knows the govt is fucked up and fucks up people, same as Doflamingo, Kaidou and Ceasar (working with them), and he goes a long way towards stopping their efforts on a big scale, or shedding a light on them. I think out of all the characters, apart from the Revolutionaries, he has some ideas of how things interlock and what will happen if that is disrupted. Globally.

On Law’s personal basis, I do think of him rescuing Bepo (he didn’t have to), and Jean Bart (also didn’t have to), defending the Twirly Hat crew from Doflamingo, diverting attacks from Zou (saying the country had suffered enough), and even I guess things like removing Bellamy from Donquixote HQ cos it seemed he was Luffy’s friend (Bellamy whom Luffy maybe uselessly fought while Law got bullets pumped through him again) show that he’s not Doflamingo levels of self-serving.

Jean Bart wasn’t a Baby 5, and Bepo and the Hearts were almost his contemporaries, age-wise—it wasn’t a Trebol & Doflamingo situation, or a Doflamingo and say, Buffalo situation, extrapolating on the possible parallels. Or, if they are to be drawn, the next people he interacted with were good people, and they seemed to treat each other well, although Law did take a leadership mantle.

It served Law individually to help Smoker drag that huge trolley through Punk Hazard to help with their escape, but it was so huge because it needed to fit everyone. Yes, he would have sacrificed a few for the whole, and even though he removed the poison from the kids’ bodies on Punk Hazard, he wasn’t necessarily driven by altruism, but he did it, and he expressed his dislike (albeit, indirectly) of Caesar’s actions with the kids to Caesar.

Yeah, the hundred hearts is a problem, because what will the

government do with them, but I think—as I wrote in another meta and wiltedcorazonrp references above, I think that Law recognises that Doflamingo saw his pain and wanted to harness it, and Cora saw his pain and wanted to heal it. Law knows this, and I think this is what “gave” Law back to himself.

Don’t forget that Law heard Doflamingo say that he wanted Law to die for him when he was a boy, under the most traumatic of conditions. I think that would change your attitude towards someone.

Cora also told Law directly that Doflamingo wanted Cora to eat the fruit so Cora could die for Doflamingo. Basic survival alone would suggest that removal of Doflamingo was prudent.

Actually, I just thought that Doflamingo did want Law to grow up and die for him, so I guess that could be a reason for him not coming after Law in the interim. Anyway, I feel that until we know more about Rocky Port, ideas of Law’s universe nastiness are based on government reports.

Law also heard Cora state that Law had changed and I feel, again, given the circumstances, you’d take it to heart (the novel supports this but it’s not canon).

Not to whitewash him (but of course I am), the Straw Hats and allies trust him (bar Shinobu), and his reactions to Luffy aren’t dissimilar to Kid’s or anyone else’s in terms of reactions to others wanting them to take a subordinate role. Y’all saw how Doflamingo took regarding others as subordinates as justification for abuse, and Law is a captain. Zoro and others grate at someone telling them to do something, although there are very obvious parallels between Law and Doflamingo in their use of this statement.

Anyway, the beauty of the OP fandom is the plethora of views, so here are a few paragraphs’ worth of my somewhat blurry thoughts. And if anyone has a bone to pick with Law it seems it would be Kin’emon, but he seems to regard Law well now (although he definitely remembers!)

[zorititito]

law: i worked for doflamingo for 3 years when i was a kid and participated in things u could never imagine. i learned how to kill maim and plunder from some of the most ruthless people on the seas.

luffy: oh ok so u want revenge against him for the terrible things he made u do?

law: ?