louis never stood a chance man.
Yaoi-hands Lestat:
I will have you.
Louis: *heart-eyes* Okay.
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louis never stood a chance man.
Yaoi-hands Lestat:
I will have you.
Louis: *heart-eyes* Okay.
Meanwhile, Louis is in the corner going like, “go off, my hunny. 😍”
THE VAMPIRE LESTAT 3.07 'The Failures'
The only parts that matter, but …. why chop Louis’ head off?
You know what happens when people who are equally passionate about something gather in one place to talk about it?
Mess. A whole bunch of mess.
Yes, I saw the finale. No, I haven’t formed an opinion because I don’t watch the show to engage a critical opinion. I watch it to lose myself in the characters. Do I notice glaring racism? Yes. Do I notice that Louis is getting the fat end of a very long stick? Yes. Does his character deserve it? Also yes.
But I need to sit with it all without the crowd of critical opinions. The pacing, the racist language, the deviation from the books’ narrative - these are all valid, but I know myself. I take others’ opinions to heart and reevaluate my devotion to something.
I love the show. It’s been an absolute joy seeing Rockstar Lestat finally grace our screens, prancing and preening like he did in the books. I’m engrossed in the love story between Louis and Lestat in the show as I was in the books. The fact that the showrunner decided to make Louis a Black man was genius. Louis doesn’t come to the same reckoning in the books as he does in the show, which is hard, fast, and effortlessly painful. But when issues of race that affect wide swaths of the audience play into the characters’ treatment of Louis, it doesn’t just become about him but about us. The showrunner and writers need to acknowledge this and plan seasons with this in mind.
I’m trying to sit with that. My either-or sense of morality is trying to accommodate the fact that I can love something so immensely and also find fault in it. Still incredibly hard, even at my old age.
I love Louis and I love Lestat. (Sorry DMcels, but Armand I can take or leave.) I want to believe in these two, even with their flaws. One thing that people are saying though that does ring true - why are Louis’ failures also on display so prominently when this season was supposed to be about Lestat’s?
Anyways, I’m going to get ready to disappear again for 2 more years. So long and fare thee well until next!
Since you act like you don't know what you wrote and it's other people that can't read...
I think you’re talking just to talk now. I am not interested in splitting hairs with you. I said what I said. “The fat end of a long stick” is not connected to “racism.” But say what you want.
No, you say what you want - like you did in your original post and now you're backpedaling because you didn't see the problem.
Fuck you, stupid white blame shifting bitch.
You didn’t understand what I was saying. Go away. Go far away and don’t come back here.
And try again. I’m not “white.”
You know what happens when people who are equally passionate about something gather in one place to talk about it?
Mess. A whole bunch of mess.
Yes, I saw the finale. No, I haven’t formed an opinion because I don’t watch the show to engage a critical opinion. I watch it to lose myself in the characters. Do I notice glaring racism? Yes. Do I notice that Louis is getting the fat end of a very long stick? Yes. Does his character deserve it? Also yes.
But I need to sit with it all without the crowd of critical opinions. The pacing, the racist language, the deviation from the books’ narrative - these are all valid, but I know myself. I take others’ opinions to heart and reevaluate my devotion to something.
I love the show. It’s been an absolute joy seeing Rockstar Lestat finally grace our screens, prancing and preening like he did in the books. I’m engrossed in the love story between Louis and Lestat in the show as I was in the books. The fact that the showrunner decided to make Louis a Black man was genius. Louis doesn’t come to the same reckoning in the books as he does in the show, which is hard, fast, and effortlessly painful. But when issues of race that affect wide swaths of the audience play into the characters’ treatment of Louis, it doesn’t just become about him but about us. The showrunner and writers need to acknowledge this and plan seasons with this in mind.
I’m trying to sit with that. My either-or sense of morality is trying to accommodate the fact that I can love something so immensely and also find fault in it. Still incredibly hard, even at my old age.
I love Louis and I love Lestat. (Sorry DMcels, but Armand I can take or leave.) I want to believe in these two, even with their flaws. One thing that people are saying though that does ring true - why are Louis’ failures also on display so prominently when this season was supposed to be about Lestat’s?
Anyways, I’m going to get ready to disappear again for 2 more years. So long and fare thee well until next!
Since you act like you don't know what you wrote and it's other people that can't read...
I think you’re talking just to talk now. I am not interested in splitting hairs with you. I said what I said. “The fat end of a long stick” is not connected to “racism.” But say what you want.
Sad thoughts after TVL ep 7
Ok. So I really didn’t like the finale. It honestly made me re-evaluate even the things I did like earlier in the season, which is a difficult thing to process. Having the cognitive dissonance around having loved the first two season, having devoted so much thought to the characters, and having defended the season up until the reframing of the finale episode is really difficult. There are still things I enjoyed and maybe I’ll come back to them. But for now I need to process my feelings, and I do best in writing. So here are my thoughts.
To me, Armand has never actually been a schemer. He’s a manipulator, but he moves out of fear. When he chose the coven in Paris, it was to ensure his own survival. (And also to eliminate the reflection of himself that he saw in Claudia, perhaps. More on that in a bit). When he erased Louis’s memory, it was to preserve his companionship. These are all game-time decisions made to preserve himself. And sure, maybe he took some pleasure in the aesthetic art of the trial. That doesn’t change the fact that he was and always is grasping for security.
Because of that, I find the idea that he would use facial recognition software, track Regina down, blackmail and cajole her into following Louis around the world in order to bait him into… what? Reliving the misery he spent seven decades trying to erase out of Louis’s head? Pretty out of character. I can see Armand wanting revenge. I cannot see him carrying out a three year detailed multi-step scheme to get it. I also don’t understand logistically what this was supposed to accomplish—Regina didn’t actually lure Louis back to Armand, because Regina was in NYC and the butcher shop is in Montreal.
I also feel like that whole thing being designed by Armand really lowers the emotional impact of the weird emotional incest between Louis and Regina. It cheapens a thing that felt really emotionally complex to me. It was actually just a part of an evil plan. A puzzle box all along.
Speaking of Regina. It is wild to me that the episode critiqued Louis as a pimp so much without pointing out that Armand was basically doing the same thing with Regina- paying her to pursue a client. @bluedalahorse I talked a lot about how the scene would have been way more impactful if Regina hadn’t been an Armand plant, but had accidentally stumbled into the scene in the butcher shop while searching for Louis to get him to give her the money he owed her. That could have created a moment where Armand was suddenly confronted with her resemblance to Claudia as well. Armand could have reckoned with why he did what he did to Claudia. He could have acknowledged some of the parallels between himself and Claudia, and that would segued into the way that Louis genuinely understands his pain and creates that moment of empathy between them. Armand letting Regina go because he realizes some of the mistakes he made with Claudia would have been an actual moment of growth for his character.
I did like that moment. Assad’s acting in that moment especially was wonderful. But the fact that it had to literally be tortured out of Louis did make it feel cheap to me. I did not like that two South Asian men were portrayed to be conducting non-consensual medical experiments on two Black people, one of whom resembles Claudia who was a disabled Black woman. There are too many examples of very real medical experiments unethically conducted on Black people for me to be comfortable about that. There are too many instances in fiction of Muslim coded characters being maniacal villains for me to be comfortable with that. And the fact that they made such a big deal about it being in a Jewish deli?? Why??? That was so weird and uncalled for.
I think people are going to justify Armand’s apology/revenge tour as him reverting back to his Children of Darkness days, but I actually find it kind of hard to square with that. Armand’s actions are rooted in a search for survival, but also, always in self-denial. That’s what being a part of the cult taught him: pleasure and beauty is barred to him. He must carry out Satan’s wishes. So he’s violent, and he’s cruel, but those things are based in self-flagellation more than they are based in animus against the outside world. There’s a world where in this season we saw Armand sink deeper and deeper into self-harm as no one accepted his apology, where he denied himself food and happiness, and only arrived at these horrible acts at the end of that journey. I could even see a world where they put his end-of-Memnoch suicide attempt in this season. Maybe we still will see some of that if we rewind and see some of Armand’s point of view of the events. But that does not square with Armand birthing this horrible plot from the moment he was thrown into the wall in Dubai, and meditating on it for three years.
It also doesn’t really square with Armand turning Daniel three weeks after Dubai in my mind. If Armand was already occupied developing this evil plan—why stop to turn Daniel along the way? Maybe he really was turned out of spite, and to spite Louis specifically and not Daniel. I will hold out hope until we see otherwise that that is not the case, and that there was tenderness in the act. In general, I don’t really see how Armand being so hung up on revenge against Louis squares with him realizing that his love for Daniel was so present in Dubai. Maybe this is me woobifying devil’s minion too much, but the thing that is so special about them to me both in the text of the book and meta narrative of Anne’s writing is that loving Daniel is Armand’s redemption. The devil’s minion chapter prevented Armand from ever becoming the revenge-seeking person we’re seeing here. So what does it mean for Armand to be doing this with Daniel by his side? How can their love ever have that tenderness and that redemptive quality to it?
I can think of some answers and places the show might go. I can see that Daniel was initially able to surprise a true moment of emotional vulnerability out of Armand, and that Armand then clamped down by revealing the stalking and nothing more about a past relationship (and I do still believe that there is more; the lack of information in this season just feels like there’s more to come). Daniel is won over by the promise of vampiric power and revenge against Lestat and also a sexual attraction to Armand he can’t control. He goes along with the plan and gets swept up in the sex they’re having. But maybe he’s also there to get answers. Maybe he’s not so in the fog that he isn’t also investigating Armand still. He loves him but he can’t trust him. And that would honestly square more with what I know of Daniel. Daniel is mean and vicious but not without a point. It doesn’t seem in character to me for him to be chopping heads for the sake of chopping heads. (But he’s the minion! I hear you say. Well yes. But the whole point of devil’s minion is actually Armand granting Daniel’s every wish. Not Daniel being a henchman for revenge plots). But if there’s a story at the other end of it, then I believe he’d be there at Armand’s side. And maybe it’s in that reveal that they will find real honesty with each other, and that’s when that true and redemptive love can start. But will the show do this? I have no idea.
(I also can’t imagine that Daniel would have co-signed Armand torturing Louis like that. Louis and Daniel are made at each other, but they still have a profound connection, and Daniel starts the season out hoping for Louis’s approval. I wonder if Armand lied to him about what he planned to do with Louis’s head, and why he needed to separate Lestat and Louis.)
I also really hated the cracks that Daniel made about autism. That felt especially wild considering how autistic coded Armand is. I also wonder if Alex refusing to talk is a nod to book Daniel going mad after being around Armand, and if so I doubly dislike the comments. I’ve always loved Daniel as a disabled fan, and to have the one-two punch of him being magically cured and then to have him say those things felt really bad.
Everything in Lestat’s mind palace was pretty fine I think. I liked him having to confront all of his failed loves and his kills. I liked it culminating in Lestat refusing to perform for Gabriella. That’s the answer to the dramatic question of the season—will Lestat shake off Gabriella’s control, and be able to reconcile with his past? And the answer is yes. But it feels so overshadowed by the B plot (btw I’m so sorry y’all for this post, I was wrong, Armand was not the C plot protagonist but simply the extremely villainous B plot antagonist, once again) that it didn’t really have the punch I feel like it should have. Why were we spending so much time in a horror movie when we should have been building up to this moment of emotional catharsis? Why were we bogged down by puzzle box reveals when we should have been letting Lestat’s emotions soar? The engine of this show has always been relationships, especially the romance between Lestat and Louis, and I felt like this episode barely touched on it.
The other thing that this finale left completely unaddressed was the trial. Since there was no “Armand was keeping Lestat hostage” reveal, I have to assume that Lestat really was there of his own free will to get revenge. I don’t think we’re going to dip back into the past of Paris again, or at least I hope not, because at this point I cannot survive another “Armand is secretly evil” reveal. In another better finale, Armand would be torturing Lestat’s dismembered head, not Louis’s. We could have focused more in on the Lesmand relationship, and about how desperate Armand always was for Lestat’s love that he never got. We connect that back to a flashback in the 18th century with Lestat being cruelly dismissive of a desperate Armand, and then to the trial as well, with Armand keeping Lestat in Magnus’s tower. Then it’s up to Lestat to extend understanding to Armand, and it becomes about him recognizing the ways in which he and Armand are similar and have both fallen into the role of abusers to people they claim to love. It becomes more about Lestat reckoning with his failures (the theme of the series!), rather than a Black man being mutilated and then convinced to apologize to his abuser. But since none of this actually happened, it’s very weird that Lestat’s dream sequence doesn’t touch on his role at the trial at all. Paul tells Lestat that he “loved Louis the way he should be loved” or whatever, but no one’s addressing that he went to Paris to seek revenge (after dropping Louis from the sky). (I also did not enjoy another Black character arriving simply to sanctify Lestat. In another episode with less going wrong I would be 100% caught up on that. But as it is it barely enters my list of most egregious sins).
I honestly wish that they had completely cut Armand out of the present day in this season and let him just be in flashbacks. Save devil’s minion and his emotional arc for season 4 if this was the alternative. I think a season 4 that actually does some Armand pov and develops devil’s minion could go a long way to putting the Armand we just saw in context. But at this point I don’t really trust the writers to necessarily deliver on that. And there’s no way for me to erase the image of him torturing two Black characters in a moment that feels deeply out of character from my mind.
I haven’t even really written in depth about my feelings about the séance scene yet, but I also felt really frustrated by that and the way it throws so much of the first two seasons into question. I feel like the writers really felt excused from having to think seriously about questions of race (and disability and queerness, to a lesser degree) now that they have “proven” themselves in the first two seasons and now that the show has changed title. Things that I think really needed an adaptational deft hand like the séance were ported over unchanged from the books, uncomfortable implications about abuse victims intact, while other things that I did not think needed to be reinvented or made up whole cloth, like Armand’s revenge tour, where given their own spin by the writers. It really felt like the things they picked to bring over were highlighting the worst elements of Anne’s writing rather than the best. I really, desperately hope that can change moving forward.
I also have no idea how much we’re supposed to trust Lestat’s recounting of events. Does Daniel really know the word yaoi? Or is that something Lestat is putting into his mouth? Did Claudia really say she hated Louis more than Lestat, her primary abuser? Or is that Lestat’s spin on the séance? Does it matter, if the show runners are implying that Lestat is inherently more trustworthy than Louis?
I feel a little embarrassed in some ways, because I am normally quite good at spotting a writing flip like this a mile off. I’ve done it with other shows I’ve loved less. But because I shared a playwriting background with Hannah and Rolin, and because of the quality of the first two seasons, I really defended them and the promise of this season. And there were a lot of elements of this season earlier on that I really liked! But I can’t ignore what is wrong with it now, and I’m sorry I tried to minimize the possibility of things going south like this. I do have faith in the careful attention this fandom pays to these characters, and I am looking forward to reading fic that adds the depth that was missing in canon, especially around Armand. I love how people in my little fan circles love Armand and Daniel and the other characters too. I guess that’s the note I’ll end on. I’m going to go work on my own writing now, with characters I love and can control, and when I’m feeling ready, maybe I’ll get back to writing about these vampires too.
Worth a read. I didn’t really understand why Armand was taking revenge on Louis.
You know what happens when people who are equally passionate about something gather in one place to talk about it?
Mess. A whole bunch of mess.
Yes, I saw the finale. No, I haven’t formed an opinion because I don’t watch the show to engage a critical opinion. I watch it to lose myself in the characters. Do I notice glaring racism? Yes. Do I notice that Louis is getting the fat end of a very long stick? Yes. Does his character deserve it? Also yes.
But I need to sit with it all without the crowd of critical opinions. The pacing, the racist language, the deviation from the books’ narrative - these are all valid, but I know myself. I take others’ opinions to heart and reevaluate my devotion to something.
I love the show. It’s been an absolute joy seeing Rockstar Lestat finally grace our screens, prancing and preening like he did in the books. I’m engrossed in the love story between Louis and Lestat in the show as I was in the books. The fact that the showrunner decided to make Louis a Black man was genius. Louis doesn’t come to the same reckoning in the books as he does in the show, which is hard, fast, and effortlessly painful. But when issues of race that affect wide swaths of the audience play into the characters’ treatment of Louis, it doesn’t just become about him but about us. The showrunner and writers need to acknowledge this and plan seasons with this in mind.
I’m trying to sit with that. My either-or sense of morality is trying to accommodate the fact that I can love something so immensely and also find fault in it. Still incredibly hard, even at my old age.
I love Louis and I love Lestat. (Sorry DMcels, but Armand I can take or leave.) I want to believe in these two, even with their flaws. One thing that people are saying though that does ring true - why are Louis’ failures also on display so prominently when this season was supposed to be about Lestat’s?
Anyways, I’m going to get ready to disappear again for 2 more years. So long and fare thee well until next!
actually the real risk with being companionless/covenless as a vampire isn't soul-crushing loneliness it's the fact that isolated vampires just start doing anything. four grown ass men got divorced last season and the second they live alone lestat starts a middling soundcloud career, louis starts stalking some poor waitress, daniel becomes a bowling fanatic, and armand is in fucking ohio
INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE 3.02: Toledo TVLTwT/IWTVTwT Version.
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Y’all play too much!
*Dies* (but not before I see the 7th ep)
Lestat looking surprised/delighted by Louis
THE VAMPIRE LESTAT 03.06 | "Montreal"
Hear their hearts dancing.
I'm so conflicted with the vampire lestat cuz there's so much people are hating on purely bc they don't understand the gothic and don't like the tone shift HOWEVER. There are. Choices being made. Around racism and race. That feel like huge dog whistles. I do not understand why Daniel called Louis That to Armand from any writing standpoint it wasn't needed and it feels so gross esp cuz Daniel is/was my fav character like yes he's awful he's an asshole that's been established since season 1 but this feels a BIG step. Daniel went from calling Louis out on ignoring the racial power dynamics between him and Lestat in favor of painting them as equals to calling Louis a racial slur like. Tf happened here.
Good point. Did Daniel up and forget the morality of journalism? Or was it just a role he put on and vampirism is stripping him of all pretense?
i think they have a crush on each other
And I spend every fucking second of nowhere looking for her. And where is she? Why is she not here with me?
Ok. Reblogging this again because I realize that Lestat’s tears are there for good reasons:
- That is his daughter for whom he just wrote a heartbreaking song. (But then why did he summon her back? Was it just for Louis’ reckoning alone? Even HE knew it was a bad idea.)
- The idea of being alone forever frightens the ever loving shit out of him. This is probably the biggest reason. Seeing Claudia’s aloneness and her consequential torment from it is giving him big feelings.
Her rage was more than justified. She deserved better. Yes, Louis, swallow it. Swallow all of it.
But for the love of Claudia, unless you intend to unite her with Madeleine, leave her be.
"If you complain about the best queer show on tv, they'll cancel it"
The show has 3x better ratings than expected, constructive criticism isn't going to get it canceled
You don't seem to understand how progress works. Are you familiar with the overton window? Bc you don't get the gay black vampire show in the first place by keeping your mouth shut and being grateful for whatever slop Hollywood decides is good enough for you. Ppl had to keep speaking up and being exceptionally annoying to get where we are and they will actually keep taking more and more away from you if you do keep your mouth shut. When the director of Silence of the Lambs heard the feedback about transphobia, he said that militants are important to continuing progress in society and media. If that guy can take the criticism and be cool, so can Rolin Jones. And stop leaving it to the ppl who are directly affected by racist writing to do all the work.
This show has become less explicitly queer now that it has been made/come out during the second Trump term (James Dolan, friends with Trump is a ceo of Amc and was at the Lestat premier) the marketing has downplayed the diverse characters, the nonwhite characters have far less screentime (even Armand who has much more of a prescence in books 2 and 3). This is not a coincidence. This is a pattern in history when goverments become more fascist and conservative. If you're genuinely curious to learn more, the "You Must Remember This" podcast has a series about the red list in old Hollywood where basically any progressive hollywood creative was blacklisted especially if they were anti nazi "too soon" before the US decided to do anything about WWII (bc facsism was kind of our thing you see). And understanding the Hayes code, how it was implemeneted and fluctuated to suppresse any remotely peogresive ideas is important to understand. Margaret Killjoy also has a few episodes on her "Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff" podcast about the progressive gay film making happening in Germany just before fascism took hold. Don't comply ahead of time. It does you no favors.
"You're risking the jobs of the actors of color by complaining"
Black writers and a director already lost their jobs. Do they not matter also? We can get into the pedantic arguments about whether the writing was racist or not, idrgaf. At the end of the day, getting rid of your black writers is a racist action in and of itself. Did they leave of their own volition? Maybe (and I'd be curious to know why ALL left if that's the case) but why not hire new black writers? At least one? You still have black main characters even if the new protagonist is white. Did AMC make them do it? Maybe so in which case it's worth yelling at AMC about it. And even if they did, I've seen showrunners quit over less so maybe Rolin sees caring about diverse stories as a 2020 fad that he's over now 🤷♀️
The poc characters have far less screentime already. Perhaps voicing our desire for them to have more screentime might I don't know...achieve something. Or you can just sit bk, be grateful for what they give you as they keep stripping away anything of value. Up to you I guess. I'm going to keep being annoying.
Also this argument is so deeply disingenuous. You should be supporting black creatives sure but maybe put that energy towards supporting black creatives who actually have creative control of their work. Directors, writers, producers, editors. Also, no one has been complaining about the poc actors. Every complaint i see has been couched in "obviously Jacob/Delainey/Assad are amazing but..."
"Shouldn't you care about what black ppl are going through in the real world instead?"
You're never going to believe this but a lot of us can do 2 things at once. In fact, most of the ppl I see criticize the racism of the show care about real world shit. Scroll down our blogs and you'll find current events, history, mutual aid fundraisers, commentary on what's happening in the world. It's almost as though caring about racism in reality might translate to caring about representation in media. It's almost as tho caring about racism in the real world might have attracted us to the initial themes of the show in the first place.
"You guys just don't like complicated characters or understand gothic horror/you didn't read the books"
Most of the criticism I've read are from knowledgeable books fans. Gothic horror fans. Ppl who liked the nuance/morally grey aspect of the characters. Even ppl who shipped Loustat at the end of season 1. They have a lot of suggestions on small changes that could be done to that seance scene to fix it. (While still keeping Claudia's anger and character intact) perhaps you could read their input (I share a lot of what I see on my blog) instead of being disingenuous about what their actual criticism is.
"Only white ppl are complaining about this. Black ppl don't care amd they like the show"
So that's a lie 🤷♀️ the ppl I learned from about the nuanced ins and outs of this are black. Scroll on down this blog. Click on their blogs. Check em out. Learn something. I get that you got excited about the couple of black ppl you found to agree with you but, can't believe i have to say this, black folks are not a monolith?
"The show characters were always racist"
The show always dealt with themes of racism. Daniel said racist microaggressions. Lestat was racist. Yes. Correct. I haven't seen anyone argue that that was not the case. What i have seen them argue is that the show (without black writers to advise) has Daniel and Lestat say racist things for more shock value/humor with no pushback, in the exact same ways when culturally they would be different. It's almost as tho the writers are just making racist jokes they find funny. I recommend you check out Rolin's first tv show, Weeds, to see the same pattern. The show started as a critique of white wealthy sheltered suburbanites who were framed as being shitty for saying racist things. There were nonwhite characters who were not (at least not fully :/) stereotypes to show that the viewpoints were false. Then over the seasons, the racist white characters are just funny little blorbos who constantly make racist jokes unchecked with no poc of that group around to check them...sound familiar? No one is contradicting Lestat's narrative. Daniel has not been able to push bk on him the way he did on Louis. And Louis was not around Daniel to push bk on the kentucky fried chicken comment and Claudia is not around to push bk on Lestat's racism bc when she is around she's the one saying racist shit to Louis and says almost nothing negative to Lestat. At a certain point you're not making commentary, you're just reveling in saying racist things. And the ppl i see arguing against this are the same ppl i see repeating the kentucky fried chicken comment as their own joke. So i have a hard time taking them seriously when they claim that the writers aren't racist, they are just writing dialogue for a racist gothic horror character. Are the writers writing your dialogue too?
Not telling you to not like the show. Hollywood is racist. Our society is racist. It's going to be really hard to find media that isn't going to fuck something up (particularly ableism). Post about your love of the show. I'm not going to come for you. I'm still going to post things i like about the show (tho I may avoid a S4 if they double down on the mistakes they've made this season). You can pry Armand from my cold dead hands. No matter how cartoon villain they go with it. You need not take the criticism from ppl with lived experience and knowledge on this personally. Just...maybe learn...maybe even yell at AMC.
Ok. This is valid. I’ve been wrestling with whether I could recognize the racial aggressions of the characters at the jump. When Claudia mentioned that Louis has the word “slave” etched on his ribcage, I winced. When Claudia/Merrick screamed “get this into your nappy head,” my eyebrows went up. When Daniel made his “bucket of Louisiana fried chicken” comment, I didn’t react, but I feel like I should have recognized it as a racist quip. You know how you get so caught up in characters and the love story that everything else falls by the wayside?
I agree that the writers should have consultants at the very least. The VERY least.
It’s not enough that the Black actors themselves have input. Hell, those actors aren’t even from the culture they’re representing in the show.
Know better, do better. I hope Jones & Moscovitch can listen to Black fans more closely.
Bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce. Twirl, twirl.
The beauty is happy. See how she twirls.
INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE 3.06: Montreal TVLTwT/IWTVTwT Version. +bonus bc op is very tired of seeing terrible takes online:
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What a wild night.
Satan’s Night Out indeed.
‼️SPOILERS AHEAD‼️
If this episode has proven anything about the current status of the fandom, it’s that not nearly enough people have read the books. So let’s talk about it.
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Yes, that whole rant Claudia said was in fact on brand for her and is very much who she truly is and is what she actually thinks. She doesn’t particularly like either of them but Louis was always her pawn because he’s easier to manipulate than Lestat. That has been established in the books for a good while.
Yes, The specific things Claudia said to/about Louis was to hurt him and to get a reaction. Claiming the writers ruined the scene with that and saying Claudia would never is in fact wrong. I’m sorry. Claudia is vicious and brutal when she lets the facade drop and as she is constant pain and filled with anger in death, there’s no reason for her to sugar coat her feelings.
Armand will always be the most vicious vampire when it comes to enforcing the rules. BUT he will turn a blind eye if it’s something he’s doing that’s against them. That’s just who he is.
With The Vampire Chronicle’s, it’s is a known fact if you’ve read the books and paid attention that Vampires can live for a little bit without their heads attached to their body. So as long as it gets put back they will get back up. So, Armand and Daniel doing that was purely to stop Lestat and Louis from doing the concert. Armand wouldn’t actually kill Louis or Lestat, there’s no benefit for him in that, but temporarily making them incapacitated is beneficial for now.
Every single character in The Vampire Chronicles is complicated, trauma driven, and multidimensional. Every. Single. One. Excusing one characters actions by saying “they’re traumatized, it’s not their fault” but then turning around and not allowing the same thing for other characters is wrong. Again, I’m sorry. You can have a favourite character ( I clearly do too) but you still should have a basic understanding of the rest of them and know that they’re all very similar in so many ways.
At the end of the day, the choices made by writers are always intentional and serve a purpose for later seasons with this show. That’s been proven multiple times now. And people need to remember that ALL of these characters are bad. They are vampires, they are monsters, not human. Their emotions and actions are not logical to humans.
*edit because some people clearly are misinterpreting that last sentence:
By “Their emotions and actions are not logical to humans” I mean they feel more intensely and their actions represent that. So, what WE would deem unreasonable, unnecessary, or unforgivable, to them, it is something that could be logical in that moment or something that is more debatable morally.
You are entitled to your opinions and feelings about the show and the characters but that doesn’t change the story being told or who these characters are as a whole.
There are no heroes in the VC.
More than enough anti-heroes to go around though.