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lesbian / rad / studying anthropology + religion / east coast babe

[radfemsiren]

The fact that most people with PTSD are sexually abused women, and yet only male soldiers are ever focused on just doesn’t sit right with me

[radmalenia]

I promise you the PTSD of prostitutes is often worse and worse to live with than that of a war veteran.

Nothing is quite as profoundly destructive psychologically than sexual violation and violence are. "Death before rape": "the bear might kill me but least it wouldn't rape me": these mentalities exist for a damned reason.

Also, chronic traumas typically effect a person more significantly than traumas from relatively isolated incidents and experiences. It even has a new designation to account for that: C-PTSD, meaning complex PTSD. Women can easily be sexually harassed and abused their whole lives from the time of early childhood; and the sick reality is that women who were molested as girls are more likely to end up prostituted and sex trafficked. Meaning trauma upon trauma.

Men however are not sent to war at five, then again at ten, at twelve, at sixteen, at eighteen; or even sent to war at five only to never get to come home. And they don't have four billion people roaming around the planet with them who can possibly throw them onto the battlefield at any given moment, and who will probably do so more than once during their lives.

They go over to the battlefield at some point, serve a tour; and once they come back home they can typically guarantee they won't be dropped into it again. Sure, they may serve a tour or two more, but they leave home for it; and they can often avoid doing any more depending on the details of their military contract.

Sure; they may have trauma, but if they go to the bar to drink it away they don't have to worry that some man will come along and suddenly teleport them back into it. Etc, etc...

Sex is also something that you're supposed to be able to share with someone you love, and find intimate pleasure and connection in. Having trauma around that is extremely damaging and debilitating. There's no equivalency there with war.

Men/veterans also don't experience a whole systemic invalidation, mockery, and even fetishization; of their traumatic experiences.

Prostituted women do. All women do.

Living as a woman with sexual abuse trauma is worse, and there are a lot of reasons.

[selkie-on-land]

Thank you so so so so much for saying this !!!! War veterans are not even 25% of all the victims who have PTSD. But as they are seen as only men then suddenly it matters! Like always, nothing is important until it concerns a man or men even if it already conceded millions of women and girls. 💀

[strawberriseason-deactivated202]

No extremist, manhating feminist has ever painted an uglier picture of men than the average man just casually talking about his own gender. Like men will just openly admit their “boys chats” and other locker room talk is way worse than the stuff that gets abusers and rapists convicted. They mock the concept of a man who’s remotely nice to a woman (these days it’s simp, before that it was whipped). They laugh at how unrealistic romance movies are because a man would never do any of those things for a woman in the real world. They’ll go into detail about their rape kinks if you let them. Most men are completely open about how awful they are, and they feel safe doing it because for some reason, most women won’t believe them. It’s a terrible thing the way a man will go “I’m a genuinely evil person” and women will immediately rush to say “awww I’m sure that’s not true! I bet you’re sweet and misunderstood underneath it all! I bet you’re joking! Ok, maybe you and all the men you know are like that, but not all of them!”

Your female socialization and your kind heart has you searching for a humanity in men that they don’t even pretend to have. Listen to men when they tell you who they are.

[solradguy]

Ok I guess if you want to get really absolutely technical about it, I guess Martin Luther's 95 Theses were a zine. I guess. I suppose.

[riotghou1]

[lenalenouilleisblogging]

Lmao

[lenalenouilleisblogging]

Get his ass

[apologynics]

Meanwhile women and girls in Gaza are suffering because they don’t have access to period products…

[this-is-transgynephobia]

hey, i dont know if this is the right place to ask this and i couldnt find anyone else but anyway, are bitch and cunt really slurs??

i usually call anyone who is acting straight up rude or cruel (like bigots) any insult word i can think of, including the ones i mentioned above. but i saw a comment saying that "calling someone a bitch or a cunt is misogynistic no matter what the situation is" and i got confused. is it really wrong to use those words? and if it is then why is it okay to call someone a dick or a jerk (i know those words are usually thrown at men rather than women)? or can i call a bigot any insulting word i want to? im genuinely curious

I mean... I've only really seen radfems say so LOL.

Definitely can be derogatory, depending on the situation, but I wouldn't call them slurs, personally.

It's like how people try & say you can't call transfems dicks if they're being rude cuz "they probably have one" or whatever lol. If YOU choose to subscribe to that, you can, but it's this blogs personal belief that no, it's not a slur, and most people won't regard it this way.

[radkindoffeminist]

These terms are slurs.

They are derogatory words which have been used to insult and oppress women for decades if not centuries and men still use them to insult women. How people cannot recognise these terms as deeply misogynistic slurs is fucking beyond me.

There are some women who choose to reclaim it and use it in a positive light which is their personal choice. (I personally don’t like them and therefore don’t, but never have an issue with someone choosing to reclaim slurs used against them.) But using it to insult a woman during an argument? Yeah, that’s using a slur to degrade a woman and that’s always wrong.

[apologynics]

A slur: a word weaponized against an oppressed minority of people.

Bitch and cunt: words weaponized against an oppressed minority of people (women). Using them against anyone is derogatory because the intent is to “feminize” them, whether you consciously think that or not.

Dick: not a slur, because men are not a globally oppressed group.

Don’t reclaim if it doesn’t apply to you 🤷‍♀️ same reason I can say dyke and won’t say the f slur (that word has historically been used against gay men, I am not a gay man). And just because you don’t think it’s a slur doesn’t mean it isn’t one… there are plenty of white people in this world who don’t believe the n word is a slur either.

[apologynics]

Being a crypto in academia/women’s studies specifically is so funny bc your department will release a statement saying NO TERFS!! and then at the same time be like wow your (very much radical feminist) point about (bioessentialism, socialization, etc.) is so insightful!

[radkindoffeminist]

People like 80-90% of radical feminist talking points when you don’t label them as radical feminist talking points. Why else do TRAs say that we’re dangerous and not to be engaged with or deeply manipulative with dozens of dog whistles? Because the majority of our talking points are completely reasonable and ‘normal’ feminist points, and once women realise that they peak.

[aalexan]

Hello. This is not me disagreeing with you at all but I'm curious about your rhetoric for the following questions I've seen asked around about prostitution! Hope this doesn't come off as weird but I'm just interested ^^

- Why is the act of sex special in itself? How does it differ from other social interactions, beyond vulnerability? Why is rape special as well?

- All labor is coerced by money, why should prostitution be considered worse than the rest?

- For the previous question if your answer is mental health impacts on the prostituted women, what would you reply to someone telling you emergency room doctors also have high rates of PTSD for example?

- Do you think the comparison to organ selling is valid here? It feels somehow in the middle since you're essentially renting a body instead of a service provided by a person but it's still not the same as organ markets.

Thank you for time!

hi!! I was going to answer in more bullet points for each question but then I just did a word dump. oops. I hope this helps answer your questions:

prostitution is not a job. even outside the work conditions and specifications, prostitution is not the same as any other job. prostitution is not the same as labor jobs because there is no actual ‘labor’. there is no product being created. there is no experience or knowledge or education required to complete this job. the only thing you need to be a prostitute is your own body. if there is no labor, no product being created, no knowledge being shared, no expertise needed, then how is this a job? how is it labor? what is being sold other than a body? a person? this is something that everyone knows too, even subconsciously. it is not a recommended job. it is not something someone aspires to be. people only say they’ll be a ‘sex worker’ as a joke, when they want to say it’d be easier to do a demeaning job that requires no training or expertise so they can make money with no prerequisites. and obviously, outside of the fact that prostitution is not labor or a job, it is very dangerous and damaging, both mentally and physically. in ways that being an emergency room doctor is not. it is explorative and coercive and very disproportionately affects women. (which in a patriarchal society, makes sense. prostitution upholds the idea that men can buy women’s bodies and treat them as products) and it is not consensual. if sex is consensual, it is not coerced. it is coercion when a prostitute has to choose between sex and not making enough income to keep themselves alive. sex is consensual when both parties get to decide what exactly they will do and stop whenever one of them wants. when money is involved, prostitutes do not get to choose these things. they have to do whatever the client pays for, and let them get their moneys worth. how is that consent?

I suppose organ selling could be compared to prostitution in the sense of commodification…but tbh I don’t think it’s relevant to this.

[moniquill]

prostitution is not a job. even outside the work conditions and specifications, prostitution is not the same as any other job. prostitution is not the same as labor jobs because there is no actual ‘labor’. there is no product being created.

...the 'no product is created' part is true of many MANY other jobs; think about anything in the chain of retail goods after 'manufacturing'. Think of being a packer, a trucker, a stocker, a cashier. Think of any job that's primarily 'cleaning' - housekeeping/janitorial/sanitation. The labor being performed is time and action.

there is no experience or knowledge or education required to complete this job. the only thing you need to be a prostitute is your own body.

I can only presume that as well as being huge dismissive of others' efforts and expertise, you are very, VERY bad at sex. This is just dismissive and dehumanizing.

if there is no labor,

(There is)

no product being created,

(Most labor is not product creation)

no knowledge being shared, no expertise needed,

(This is both untrue and insulting)

then how is this a job? how is it labor?

(It's labor because you are fucking wrong about what labor is.)

what is being sold other than a body? a person?

Selling a body/person is human trafficking (most of which is not sexual). Selling sex is selling time and actions. It's performance art that requires a particular skillset, like being an actor or a musician.

this is something that everyone knows too, even subconsciously. it is not a recommended job. it is not something someone aspires to be.

This is true of MOST other jobs under capitalism. No one aspires or recommends being a fast food work or shelf-stocker, either.

people only say they’ll be a ‘sex worker’ as a joke, when they want to say it’d be easier to do a demeaning job that requires no training or expertise so they can make money with no prerequisites.

This says far more about who you think 'people' are than it does about the people who choose sex work.

it is very dangerous and damaging, both mentally and physically. in ways that being an emergency room doctor is not.

Explain how.

it is not consensual.

You're thinking of rape, possibly of sex trafficking. Sex work is, indeed, a consensual transaction between two or more adults.

if sex is consensual, it is not coerced.

ALL LABOR IS COERCED UNDER CAPITALISM. How is sex work different from other acting?

sex is consensual when both parties get to decide what exactly they will do and stop whenever one of them wants. when money is involved, prostitutes do not get to choose these things. they have to do whatever the client pays for, and let them get their moneys worth.

It is clear from this that you do not view sex workers as agents, rational adults making choices, but as objects. This is saying "You, an adult human person, are not actually capable of consent or negotiation."

Also this is every job; do what the boss says or get fired (even if it's not in your job description)

Organ selling would be actual 'selling one's body' - and I'd argue that surrogate pregnancy could be classed under 'selling one's body' in a way that sex work isn't because of the actual blood and tissue that's invested in a pregnancy. Sex work is selling one's LABOR. It is selling TIME and ACTIONS.

Explain how it's different from working in retail under rude and exploitive customers and a demanding, unsympathetic manager.

ETA: Please read this thread

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[apologynics]

> Sex work is, indeed, a consensual transaction between two or more adults.

Consent cannot be sold.

And you have a very sanitized view of sex work if you believe that most sex workers are not being trafficked or exploited. 99% of “sex workers” worldwide are trafficked women and children or women and children being exploited. Johns don’t care. You need to spend less time listening to the top 1% of OnlyFans models and more time listening to the testimonies of actual victims of prostitution.

Sex work is like retail? LOL. Does retail have the possibility to create a living breathing human being or to transfer a venereal disease? That the worker might be stuck with, because keep in mind most sex work happens in countries with limited access to reproductive care…

[dogpuppy]

[pinkpilledterf]

TRAs act like black women are constantly mistaken for men and soooo weird.

[loveridden1999]

the og feminist icon

[aalexan]

Hello. This is not me disagreeing with you at all but I'm curious about your rhetoric for the following questions I've seen asked around about prostitution! Hope this doesn't come off as weird but I'm just interested ^^

- Why is the act of sex special in itself? How does it differ from other social interactions, beyond vulnerability? Why is rape special as well?

- All labor is coerced by money, why should prostitution be considered worse than the rest?

- For the previous question if your answer is mental health impacts on the prostituted women, what would you reply to someone telling you emergency room doctors also have high rates of PTSD for example?

- Do you think the comparison to organ selling is valid here? It feels somehow in the middle since you're essentially renting a body instead of a service provided by a person but it's still not the same as organ markets.

Thank you for time!

hi!! I was going to answer in more bullet points for each question but then I just did a word dump. oops. I hope this helps answer your questions:

prostitution is not a job. even outside the work conditions and specifications, prostitution is not the same as any other job. prostitution is not the same as labor jobs because there is no actual ‘labor’. there is no product being created. there is no experience or knowledge or education required to complete this job. the only thing you need to be a prostitute is your own body. if there is no labor, no product being created, no knowledge being shared, no expertise needed, then how is this a job? how is it labor? what is being sold other than a body? a person? this is something that everyone knows too, even subconsciously. it is not a recommended job. it is not something someone aspires to be. people only say they’ll be a ‘sex worker’ as a joke, when they want to say it’d be easier to do a demeaning job that requires no training or expertise so they can make money with no prerequisites. and obviously, outside of the fact that prostitution is not labor or a job, it is very dangerous and damaging, both mentally and physically. in ways that being an emergency room doctor is not. it is explorative and coercive and very disproportionately affects women. (which in a patriarchal society, makes sense. prostitution upholds the idea that men can buy women’s bodies and treat them as products) and it is not consensual. if sex is consensual, it is not coerced. it is coercion when a prostitute has to choose between sex and not making enough income to keep themselves alive. sex is consensual when both parties get to decide what exactly they will do and stop whenever one of them wants. when money is involved, prostitutes do not get to choose these things. they have to do whatever the client pays for, and let them get their moneys worth. how is that consent?

I suppose organ selling could be compared to prostitution in the sense of commodification…but tbh I don’t think it’s relevant to this.

[apologynics]

OP all of your points are completely correct— just wanted to tack on IMHO that I think either anon is an idiot or just asking these questions in bad faith because….

- why is the act of sex special?

because sex has the possibility of PREGNANCY and VENEREAL DISEASE. No other social interaction or type of labor (!) has those possible results. This is common sense I fear.

[meowguraaaaa-deactivated2026030]

woman morning wood

[ewil]

morning bean

[apologynics]

Being a crypto in academia/women’s studies specifically is so funny bc your department will release a statement saying NO TERFS!! and then at the same time be like wow your (very much radical feminist) point about (bioessentialism, socialization, etc.) is so insightful!

[furiousgoldfish]

you all are far superior to your fathers don’t forget that

[malibuklaus]

[gender-machine-broke]

Shoutout to animated female animals that just look regular

Because I swear the only way some people know how to create a female animal character is by giving her exaggerated curves and false lashes or something. Even though that doesn’t even make sense for her species. Kids will just accept that an animated animal is a girl if you use a female voice actress and other characters use female pronouns for her I promise