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Rules: go to Pinterest and type in "[your name] core aesthetic" and create a moodboard using the first nine images. No need to reveal what your name actually is!
Noone tagged me but I'm still doing it 😅
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Viserra
by vesperkyno on twitter
jaehaerys the conciliator & his daughters
george r.r. martin, fire & blood. sigmund freud, totem and taboo (chapter iv). flowers in the attic: the origin (2022). giovanni gerolamo savoldo, tête de vieillard. johann hofman, leda and the swan. dacia mariani, dreams of clytemenstra. lolita (1997).
Aerion’s similarities to both Saera and Viserra have been on my mind lately (and lest anyone get up in arms for the girls’ sakes, I’m certainly not saying they’re exactly the same)
and of course the fact that Aerion and Saera both ended up in Lys after a scandal around age 16/17
Potentially controversial opinion: Alysanne and Jaehaerys should have just let Viserra marry Baelon. That would have kept her in King's Landing, close to her mother. Baelon already had heirs so he wouldn't have pushed Viserra to get pregnant too young. What's the downside? "She wants to be the queen." Okay? What's wrong with that? She's a child, you still have time to educate her to be a good queen someday. God, these two were absolute shit with their children.
I think Baelon Targaryen is a great example of the banality of evil in A Song of Ice and Fire.
He does not seek to harm others on purpose. Nevertheless, his passivity still contributes to the injustices experienced by the women of his family.
When Jaehaerys passed Rhaenys over as heir, Baelon never once questioned his father’s decision. In contrast, Rhaenys was very outspoken about her inheritance being usurped. Baelon had a close relationship to his big brother, Aemon, but that did not stop him from usurping Aemon’s daughter. All because King Jaehaerys said so and Baelon was not going to question his father’s decision. GRRM has himself confirmed that the usurpation that occurs here would later set the stage for the Dance of the Dragons, wherein another female heiress is passed over, and it is officially set into law that no woman shall ever be allowed to inherit the Iron Throne before a man.
At the onset of Alysanne arranging Viserra’s betrothal to Theomore Manderly, Viserra expressed her objection to the match. Once Viserra’s efforts to have her parents set aside the betrothal fail, she went to her big brother for help. It’s quite sad Viserra believed that the only way Baelon would be willing to save her from her impending marriage to an old man is if he was seduced by the sight of her. Though her plan did fail and Alysanne was determined to make this marriage happen. But we see from Baelon’s inaction that he did nothing to convince his parents to not marry Viserra off. Honestly, Baelon should’ve married Viserra himself to save her. He does not need to consummate that marriage. Since he’s an adult male warrior, there’s nothing his 15 years old sister could’ve done to force him into a sexual relationship if he doesn’t want that. By marrying Viserra, he could’ve saved her from the unfortunate situation of marrying an old man, who has already buried 4 wives, and has multiple children already. Instead, Viserra was left without any support, and in the end, her last attempt at freedom led to her death.
Fire & Blood focuses a lot on the theme of patriarchal power. Baelon’s inaction allowed him to benefit greatly just by refusing to bestir himself for the sake of the women in his family. Though he is not some cold hearted villain. He is simply an ordinary man. He listens to his parents. He was a devoted husband to his wife and took care of his sons like a father should. He performed his princely duties as was expected. And when he saw injustices happening in front of him, he looked the other way.
A random thought while rereading about Jaehaerys I and Alysanne as parents: I wonder if the reason why, starting with Vaegon, they handled their children progressively worse, is due on the one hand to the fact that the years were advancing, the children too... but on the other hand to the fact that with the first group they were so lucky to have no idea how to handle a "normally problematic" child.
Daenerys lived only six years and was a pure ray of sunshine. Aemon and Baelon were the definition of perfect princes. Alyssa was a tomboy, but she never seemed to cross that fine line from "cute little brat" to "red alert: problem," and it certainly helped that she got married appropriately and had a kids without obietions, so her "duty as a woman" did it. Maegelle was that kid you never had to remind her of the rules, she never cries at night, and she ate all her vegetables (I mean, Daella adored her).
I'm sure at that point Jaehaerys and Alysanne were like, why do so many people say parenting is hard? We raised five kids with no problems. And then the second batch comes along and suddenly...problems. And Jaehaerys and Alysanne are like, "Oh, that's why they say that!".
What the fuck, Alysanne?!
This is going to be long and rambling.
So, I'm analysing parts of Fire & Blood concerning Viserra for a fic, and something just blew my mind. I'm afraid I cannot comprehend it.
Alysanne arranged a match between Viserra and Theomore Manderly. I always knew that match was horrible. Viserra was the most beautiful of Alysanne's daughters. I doubt she was pleased with a match to an older, four-time widower, who already had an heir and a couple of spares. The prospect of spending the rest of her life in the North was also probably not something she wanted.
Everyone knows it.
But it just hit me how much older Theomore must have been. Viserra was 16 when Alysanne arranged the betrothal. I always thought Theomore was 40 or 50 at most. But now I'm reading more carefully, and fuck, he must have been older than that.
Theomore had four wives and a couple of kids. One of his daughters, Jessamyn, was Alysanne's cupbearer during Alysanne's visit to the North in 58 AC. We don't know how old Jessamyn was at the time, but Rhaenyra became Viserys' cupbearer at the age of 8, Daeron was sent to Oldtown to be Lord Hightower's cupbearer at the age of 12, Aegon II offered the position of his cupbearer to Rhaenyra's son, Viserys, when Viserys was around 8 years old, Aegon the Younger was around 10 when he became his mother's cupbearer, and Tywin was also around 10 when he was sent to King's Landing to become cupbearer.
Let's assume Jessamyn was 8 years old when Alysanne came to White Harbour. That would mean she was born in 50 AC. If Theomore was 12 when she was born, that would mean Theomore was born in 38 AC. He would be 49 AC in 87 AC when he was supposed to marry 16-year-old Viserra.
I always assumed that was the case.
But Jessamyn wasn't Theomore's oldest child. He had at least three sons. He also had at least one more daughter. Once again, we get a bit more information about Mara Manderly. We know that in 55 AC, she was the queen's companion when Alysanne was pregnant with Aemon. Let's assume she was 12 at the time. That would mean she was born in 43 AC. Again, if she was born when Theomore was 12, that would put his date of birth to 31 AC, which would make him three years older than Jaehaerys.
We don't know the ages of any of Theomore's sons, but we know that one of his great-great-grandsons, Medrick, was a fearsome man and one of the finest knights of the North by 130 AC. The younger great-great-grandson, Torrhen, was older than Kermit Tully, who was born in 112 AC.
Considering that 12-year-olds do not have children all that often (even in Westeros), I think it's safe to assume that Theomore Manderly was born much earlier than 31 AC.
So, the question that I keep asking myself is, what the fuck was Alysanne thinking when she arranged this marriage?
I really try to be fair when I'm analysing Fire & Blood and put the more outrageous fan theories aside, but I can't help but think this marriage was a punishment. It brought very little to House Targaryen. Even if Viserra married Theomore and they had children together, their son would not inherit White Harbour. And the marriage itself had an expiration date. Theomore was old. If Viserra didn't die and married him, she would probably waste her youth in the North only to become a widow at 25.
Once again, what the fuck, Alysanne?
I know this is probably GRRM not thinking about details like the ages of minor characters, but these mistakes lay the ground for interesting dynamics between characters in fics and crazy fan theories.
It was the hour of the wolf, the darkest time of the night, when it fell to Ser Ryam Redwyne of the Kingsguard to rouse the king and queen from their sleep to tell them that their daughter had been found dead in an alley at the foot of Aegon's High Hill.
(Fire & Blood, The Long Reign, Jaehaerys and Alysanne: Policy, Progeny and Pain)
Children of King Jaehaerys I Targaryen and Queen Alysanne Targaryen
ik you said baelon and viserra is a crack ship of yours so i was wondering what you think his reason/thought process was for refusing to marry her
viserra never really had time to develop past the age of fifteen, and i don't think vanity was all that there was to her. alysanne seems to have a real issue with any of her daughters that exhibits a strong will and/or wants her status. saera having jaehaerys wrapped around her finger - for a time - and viserra wanting to become 'queen' are both threats to two positions she holds dear and she acts accordingly. i think she adored alyssa because alyssa looked like her, and was single-mindedly devoted to baelon, hence her 'wildness' was forgiven because she emulated alysanne in a way her mother would like. what i glean from the canon is that baelon was her favourite son, and now there's this daughter who's brazenly saying she wants to be queen whilst her mother, the queen, is still alive. viserra doesn't have the sense to realise the faux pas. alysanne loves her, but dislikes her immensely. the way she speaks of her 'ways' to jaehaerys is so scathing. why are you taking your fifteen year old's frivolity to heart? you lost daella to a widower who already had four children. so now you're sending viserra to lord manderly who has four dead wives. that was a murder attempt on alysanne's part, at least to me. viserra's death is on both her parents' head tbh. she went out for a night on the town, probably hoping to have fun like saera did before she was locked up forever. imagine saera hearing of what happened through letters afterwards, knowing viserra was emulating her. they didn't get on but her little sister was trying to be like her in her final moments.
as for baelon refusing to marry her...well, she's fifteen, self-absorbed and shallow. she might grow out of it, but he certainly didn't want her right then. and alysanne's whispering wouldn't help because she for sure had words with baelon privately to tell him of all the ways viserra falls short of what he deserves.
edit: little addition, but reading between the lines, viserra getting hammered before she struck up the courage to go to baelon says everything. she isn't who she was presenting herself to be and her mother failed to see the scared little girl under it. she was screaming for help and everyone treated her with disdain for it because she was pretty and she knew it and god forbid, treated it as her defining feature because everyone else reduced her to it.
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Little Maekarlings
A little family tree for the fic "Gods' gifts and "normal" people". Handdrawn, bc the most family tree sites do not like me. And also because they couldn't show the whole family (bc of non-blood connection) How Harry & Theo are connected to Dorothea & Charlus Theodore and Dorea: first cousins once removed. Connected through Theo's maternal line - his mother Evelyn is Dorea's first cousin Harry and Charlus: grand nephew and grand uncle. Connected through Harry's paternal line - Fleamont Potter is Harry's grandfether and Charlus is Fleamont's brother. Theo's second name is a star! His mother named him after Dorea in a LOT of ways. Alrai is Gamma Cephei, the naked-eye star that will succeed Polaris as the Earth's northern pole star, due to axial precession. And Polaris is Dorea's second name.
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