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But it’s so scary! I was in superwholock phase when I was sixteen. There are MOMS and people over 30 who are still in fandom spaces, who interact with people in THAT way and the older I get, less I understand. You’re a fucking grown ass person. If you still like the shows, nobody’s stopping you from reblogging stuff (of course, DEPENDS what kind of STUFF you’re reblogging but that’s another discussion) but when the adult is an active member of the fandom which is mainly populated by kids… It’s ugly and disgusting and I feel so bad even thinking about that.
I look at posts like this and wonder… when was I supposed to get out?
Was I supposed to get a mortgage and some sensible shoes and learn to play bridge? Shuffle off to the glue factory to die?
Do you know how much many fandoms would lose if you declared everyone over 21 (or whatever the cutoff is) “creepy” and cast them out? As bad as I feel for a 30+ year old mother who is deeply into Superwholock, why should she be unwelcome in the fandom? Supernatural, Doctor Who, and Sherlock are none of them Game of Thrones but they aren’t kids shows. Adults on the internet do not have a responsibility to keep everything they do sanitized for hypothetical minors who might see it. I AM over 30, and trust me when I say that this shit got hashed out in court back in the 90s when it was new.
Older fans saw hundreds of thousands of fanworks disappear in the early 21st century, sometimes due to technical and economic reasons (like the loss of mailing lists and the fall of Geocities) but we also saw how ugly things could get when puritanical think-of-the-children handwringing censorship turned into witch hunts and deletions on FF.net, LJ, and more. AO3 was a gift from older fans so new fans of all ages wouldn’t have to worry about that stuff.
I mean get off my lawn and etc, but everyone in fandom needs to understand that they are functionally in a public space that does not promise to be “safe” for them personally, no matter their age. You may end up interacting with adult content and like it or not it’s going to be up to you to control your experience- block people, blacklist tags, move to a more moderated community, whatever you have to do, but the whole fandom is not going to keep everything acceptable by any one person’s standards.
Fandom is a place where we all come together, and the only thing we need to have in common is a shared love of whatever Thing we came for.
Is OP saying that existing on the internet while over 21 is inherently abusive?
Also it cracks me up when people assume Tumblr is mostly kids.
Don’t you know that mothers are supposed to have no other interests then children and women are supposed to have no other interests than becoming mothers after the age of 22? We are of course all monsters who have no right to create content, never mind that we (and really our mothers and grandmothers) created the platforms that we created the fandoms & now they’re supposed to be playgrounds for the kiddies and we’re in their spaces. But it’s OK they will generously allow us to re-blog their contents as long as we don’t get too uppity and think we have the right to have voices ourselves. Holy shit. I can’t even contemplate how bleak people like this must believe their futures are.
The OP makes me sound like a criminal… :/ Just because you reach a ‘certain age’ doesn’t mean your interests suddenly change. Like it’s bad for people (apparently especially MOMS) to like certain things and damn forbid talk about it with others. I think without fandom, interests,…. life is pretty boring. So please, let me lead my life while you lead yours.
If your opinion aligns with OP, please do not read or reblog anything created by a fandom author who is over age 30.
* Note that this includes Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss.
note, too, that Supernatural, Sherlock, and Doctor Who are all shows about… adults. Written by adults, played by adults, about largely adult characters living largely adult lives. Some of the characters are even–and please, brace yourself, because this might be a shock–MOMS. So how, exactly, do adult fans not have a place in those fandoms, and on the fandom architecture we built?
So I’m the same age, give or take a year or two, as the main characters on Sherlock. When I write Sherlock fic, I’m writing about my generation. My peers.
I’m also a parent. Would it be creepy if I wrote a romance novel? Would it be creepy if I read a book with SEX in it? How about if I wrote a TV script for a show that already exists? Isn’t that exactly what some fanfiction is?
Does having kids mean I have to put away my sexy thoughts, pick up my knitting and sit in the fucking corner for the rest of my life?
“but when the adult is an active member of the fandom which is mainly populated by kids… It’s ugly and disgusting and I feel so bad even thinking about that.” “As bad as I feel for a 30+ year old mother who is deeply into Superwholock…”
Do you ever see people telling older men to stop cheering at sporting events? That it’s gross or disgusting for an old guy to put on a baseball jersey and yell his head off at a home game? No? I wonder why.
I hope you understand that this attitude perpetuates the absolutely raging sexism and ageism that permeates our culture. You’re perpetuating society’s wish that women of a certain age should go away and be silent. That we abandon our personhood as soon as we have kids. That mothers are vessels and not people. That older women are not supposed to be sexy or think about sex or feel passion. That we are supposed to sit in a circle with other mothers sipping wine and planning soccer carpools.
FUCK. THAT.
I was born a fannish person. I still love the same books I loved when I was in elementary school. I love talking about TV and movies and music with other passionate fans. I’ve always written fic, even before the internet, even before I knew what fic was. Having kids did not remove that part of my brain. It changed my life, but it did not change ME.
I’ve been in fandom for decades and have a large circle of wonderful fandom friends who are in their 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s. Together, we are responsible for hundreds of thousands of words of fanfic. We’ve made podfics, fan art, podcasts, cons, writing groups. We’re not stopping anytime soon. To quote the worst rock n’ roll song ever written, we built this city.
When you call older fans “ugly and disgusting” you are discriminating against people who just happen to have a different fucking birthday. You are telling a female-dominated community that their desire and passion and creativity has an expiration date. And you are feeding our culture’s entirely sexist expectations of how older women, especially mothers, should behave.
I for one, as a MOM and well over 30, hope the OP figures this out before they become a parent (optional) and/or over 30 (not mandatory but this is already tragic enough). Because that’s a ton of baggage to unpack while you’re busy having an adult life.
I came to fandom late. Past 30 late. I wish I could say I never worried what would happen if anyone found out, but that’s not true. But I got there. I decided I DO NOT CARE if PTO Moms or Soccer Moms or My Mom think this is an unseemly enthusiasm for me to engage. Fuck that shit. I was miserable, as miserable as you can be when you forget who you are. Now I’m not. I could argue that I’m a better parent, a better person, because of it. That’s true, but it’s not the damn point. I am HAPPIER now than I was before. That’s enough.
@marsdaydream & @kestrel337 saved me a good bit of typing.
As another 40yo mom who’s been in fandom since she 15, y'all kids can get the fuck off my fannish lawn.
If I’d had fandom when I was 16 and had the content written by older, sexually experienced Fandom Grandmas, I could have saved myself decades of suffering.
I’m very late to the party because I only knew of MALE fandom - fandom that called you a poser if you didn’t speak fluent Klingon or couldn’t recite every story line of every X-Men comic ever published.
Finding fandom and fic late in life validated things I’d been feeling since I was 13 but didn’t have words or concepts to express. I hope that other girls like I was can use fanfic to help figure themselves out. And guess what - the fic written by other teens won’t help them a bit!! It’s the fic written by the Oldies who’ve been around the block a few times that can help the Youngsters figure out this insane game called Life.
People like OP don’t even realize how they’re perpetuating the cultural erasure of women past their twenties.Hopefully by that fateful age where she’s supposed to shrivel up and go away she’ll have gained some wisdom and maturity about these things. I’m not super optimistic, though.
Tbh this whole thing is terrifying to me. I got into fandom when I was…32?? I didn’t even know what I was missing until that point and I was missing SO MUCH. It makes me sad to know there’s a dividing line here. There’s no way I’m stopping now when I’ve just got going, I’m going to keep fanning and keep writing because I forget how old I am fairly regularly in amongst the scary crazy amazing parenting world I’m in now, and fandom helps with that nicely :)
Actually, how about you kids get out of my fandom? I mean, y’all should be watching cartoons, and KC Undercover and Raven’s Home. You know, shows about kids. You’re too young to watch Supernatural, Dr Who and Sherlock, I mean those shows are for adults and quite frankly, having kids watching shows meant for adults is just creepy, so go back to your own space, and play with your dolls and Legos and stay out of mine.
Now, how fucked up is that. Me, an adult with a spouse,and kids and a mortgage, presuming to tell you, a non-related person younger than me, what you should or should not do and how you should interact with other people who enjoy the same things. So child, you may no longer be 16, and you may no longer be in a superwholock “phase” but fuck you for telling me, or anyone else who doesn’t meet your criteria of “kid” how they should interact. If you’re underage, and aren’t comfortable with my posting a smut-fic of Cas & Dean doing the do, or an explicit pic of Dean balls-deep in Cas’s ass, then don’t follow me. If you’re old enough to participate in fandom, then you’re old enough to police yourself and avoid things you aren’t comfortable with. I may be a mom, but I’m not your mom, and I’ll be damned if I self-censor because you’re uncomfortable.
I love everyone in this bar full of old farts.
Fandom would absolutely suck without fans over 30. I will put money that all of your favourite fics were written by fans over 30.
Never surrender!
unrelated but, who is it that you think donates 175k a yr so OTW can be up and running and advocate for your right to fic without legal harassment? could it be grown-ass adult women with actual paychecks? hmmm…
This. Also the last point from all of us who contribute to OTW.
Fuck you, OP.
I started fangirling only when I was over 30 - and had a baby. Because I was sitting in my living room at night, trying to get my baby to sleep and my phone was my only friend. Tumblr didn’t keep me sane but definitely awake and I met some amazing people here (some of them also over 30 and/or with kids).
Most drama comes from the unbalanced teenager girls who can’t understand that other people do have feelings, too, no matter what age, gender, heritage or whatever they are. (I don’t want to lump them all together, there are a lot of very sweet and smart teenagers out there.)
I’m grateful for the older fangirls and moms in the fandoms I’m in, because they keep things running and write most of my favorite fics.
This, all of this. You have all stated everything so eloquently. With age comes a certain maturity and way of speaking, that most teenagers have yet to obtain. If you don’t like my smut, get off my dashboard. Shame yourself, not others.
*Say it again for the others in the back*
Btw, listen to your elders and sit the hell down.
Cinderella’s dress, shoes, and hairband change color with your blog!!
This looks perfect on a white background. So pretty to see her dress being silver like it is in the film.
Wow cinderella looks good in macaroni.
this is my favorite addition wow A+
my background is black
i was really excited about seeing this on my own blog and then i remembered my background is light blue :|
SHE LOOKS SO PRETTY IN GRAY
Oh my god! It works!
You have to reblog then tap/click on the picture to see her dress change color though. It does work!!
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reblog and make a wish! this was removed from tumbrl due to “violating one or more of Tumblr’s Community Guidelines”, but since my wish came true the first time, I’m putting it back. :)
OH MY FUCKING GOD, IT’S BACK ON MY DASH.
THIS SHIT WORKS OKAY, I AM DEAD SERIOUS.
The last time I saw this on my dash, I didn’t think it would happen, so jokingly I wished I could go to a fun. concert.
AND GUESS WHAT, I WENT TO A FUCKING FUN. CONCERT.
THIS SHIT WORKS, TRY IT.
YOOOOOOO
I SAW THIS ON MY DASH THE OTHER DAY AND THOUGHT “ITS WORTH A TRY” SO I WISHED I COULD GET A 3DS
LITERALLY LIKE 4 DAYS LATER MY DAD SENT ME A PICTURE OF THE 3DS XL HE BOUGHT FOR ME WHILE I WAS AT SCHOOL
IM STILL FREAKING OUT ABOUT THIS
holy fuck, I didn’t expect this to work, I was like psh, whatever it’s just a quick reblog, but I wished my Dad would actually respond back to me AND HE FUCKING DID A FEW DAYS LATER, I GOT A FUCKING TEXT FROM MY DAD TODAY WHO HASN’T SPOKEN OR RESPONDED TO ME IN MONTHS HOLY FUCK WHAT IS THIS MAGIC IT WORKS.
I WANTED TO SEE MY BOYFRIEND AND I DIDN’T THINK I’D GET DAYS OFF BUT THIS WEEKEND I’M HEADING UP THERE??? THIS IS CRAZY SHIT
SO LIKE I JOKINGLY WISHED FOR MY OWN LEN KAGAMINE AND THEN LIKE A WEEK LATER I GOT A LEN NENDOROID??? H ELP
WTF OKAY SO THIS SHOT ACTUALLY WORKS BECAUSE WHEN I WISHED, I HAD WISHED MY CRUSH WOULD LIKE ME BACK AND GUESS WHAT? I HAVE A BOYFRIEND NOW. WHAT THE HELLLLL?????
ok I’ve said this before but IM DOING IT AGAIN THE FIRST TIME I SAW THIS, MY WISH DID COME TRUE SO I REBLOGED AGAIN AND SAID IT IN THE TAGS BUT THEN I WISHED FOR SMTH ELSE AND IT LITERALLY LITERALLY HAPPENED LIKE A COUPLE DAYS LATER WHAT THE HELL SO NOW IM WRITING THIS HERE FOR YOU BC I DONT BELIEVE IN THIS CRAP BUT STILL IT’S AN AWFULLY BIG COINCIDENCE
THE BOY I FELL I LOVE WITH LEFT TO TRAVEL THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD AND HAS BEEN GONE NOW FOR 3 MONTHS. WE HAVENT SPOKEN SINCE BECAUSE I DIDNT WANT TO MAKE HIM FEEL TRAPPED TO ME AND NOT ENJOY HIS TIME SO I WAITED FOR HIM TO CONTACT ME FIRST. I SAW THIS ON A PARTICULARLY LOW DAY WHEN I WAS MISSING HIM SO MUCH I CRIED FROM THE PAIN, GUYS I REALLY LOVE HIM, SO I THOUGHT MEH WHAT THE FUCK, AND WISHED HE WOULD JUST LET ME KNOW HE WAS OKAY.
GUYS.
HE FUCKING CALLED ME 20 MINUTES LATER
20 FUCKNG. MINUTES. LATER.
GOOD THINGS DO HAPPEN. AND ITS IN THIS POST.
I wish for someone to leave something in my ask.
OKAY SO I ASKED FOR A HEDGEHOG AND NOW GUESS WHO HAS A PET HEDGEHOG
i want you to stay for one day and one nigh with me and give me sp much love i dont have to cry of lonliness tonight, every night
no bUT THE LAST TIME I DID THIS SHIT I WISHED MEETING MY IDOL AND IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE I FCKING GOT THE FCKING EMAIL SAYING I WAS GOING TO MEET TAYLOR OH MY GOD
liKE THIS SHIT ACTUALLY WORKS PPL
Let this work
Haha, can this work please? (=^・ω・^=)
heerree I goooooo,,,,,, hope this works!!
I’m trusting y'all…
My hopeless romantic says yes but my independent woman says no
Reasons Why Sims Society is Better than Ours
1. Sex is ALWAYS consensual. You can not WooHoo with anyone if they are not 100% into it too.
2.You can love WHOEVER you want, same sex, opposite sex, aliens, robots, werewolves, ghosts, politicians with no judgement from your neighbors.
3. Men and Women get paid the SAME amount for the same damn job. Equal fucking rights.
4. Free health care.
5. It takes less than a minute for police and firefighters to reach any house once dispatched.
6. If child is being neglected or abused, a social worker automatically finds out and takes the child away from an unhealthy environment.
7. Adopting a child is free, easy, and known abusers of children can’t adopt. 98% of Sim orphans find a loving home before they reach their teen years.
8. Racism is just not a thing.
9. Universities have free tuition; the only cost is how much it is to live on campus.
10. The motherlode cheat.
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i. Aphrodite has given up on love. She listens to boys yelling obscene things at innocent girls. She can be found serving drinks at the local bar to broken women and spitting poisonous words at the filthy gentlemen next to them. ii. Apollo dreads the moment the sun rises. Because when the sun goes up, his local late night show ends and his hour of fame comes to a close. He can be found spending his days, sitting on a park bench asking for loose change and wishing his poetry was good enough. iii. Ares doesn’t understand war anymore. All he sees is needless bloodshed and brutal homicide based upon abhorrent racial cleansing and childish disagreements. He can be found weeping over the destruction of schools and the murder of innocent children. iv. Artemis doesn’t hunt game anymore. She carries a switchblade and mace, prepared to fight off any boy harassing a girl with intoxicated footsteps. She can be found holding back girl’s hair as they vomit up their insecurities while sobs wrack their body into the next morning. v. Athena has stopped believing in reason. When there’s international conflict concerning who marries who and a nationwide crisis about the newest fashion, reason just doesn’t seem applicable anymore. She can be found protesting with college students about real problems. vi. Dionysus can’t help the madness. When the frequency of mental illness - in children nonetheless, has become so high? What’s the point? He can be found at the same pub and same seat as always; drinking the same dry whisky wishing everything would be the same as it used to be. vii. Hades can’t stand jewels anymore. Emeralds reflect the envy and greed of humanity while rubies reflect their sexual and blood lust. He can be found rolling his eyes at people begging for their lives in the allies while human demons hunt them down for materialistic ends. viii. Hephaestus has developed a hatred of fire. It does nothing but steal. It steal oxygen from the air and steal people from their families. Fire does not give it takes. He can be found saving everything he can from fire’s wrath, but will later choke on the smoke of his cigarette. ix. Hermes can’t stand traveling. His legs are weak and his eyes are strained. He’s carried too many messages to people about the death of loved ones and the love letters are scarce. He can be found stealing, not money, but of their hope and strength because he’s hasn’t any left. The gods are among us and they can’t survive. Why should I?
“Modern Mythology” by Maggie McCloskey (via clearlyprocrastinating)
i literally dont talk to anyone unless they talk to me first
They literally never came back I hate them