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The angel has inside control but isn't using it, Jacob should swing the arms outside, breaking the grip, and shoot for a single, from there, depends on if the divine powers take over, but guessing based on how the angel uses it's arms you could probably take an arm bar real easy.
Now, does the physical manifestation of the divine have an elbow joint that you can hyperextend? Unfortunately I am not a biblical scholar, so this is where my expertise ends.
So first of all the fact that Jacob even survives the encounter with the divine being is astounding. Genesis 32:31 reads "So Jacob named the place Peniel, meaning, 'I have seen a divine being face to face, yet my life has been preserved.'" Jacob clearly believes that any face-to-face encounter with a divine being, much less a grappling match, would be a threat to his life.
As for the question of whether the being he encountered has an elbow joint that can be hyperextended, the term used in the Hebrew in Genesis 32:25 is ×Ö“×ש×Ö (or ish) which literally translates to "Man." However, we know this is not a normal "man" since Jacob also refers to him as ×ÖµÖ× (el), meaning "divine being." This is a being with human and supernatural qualities. In the 13th century rabbi Hezekiah ben Manoah wrote that the being that Jacob wrestled was Esau's guardian angel in human form; given that this angel can be wrestled (and, indeed, defeated) in this form I would infer that Jacob could hyperextend the angel's elbow joint.
Moshe ben Maimon, better known as Maimonides or Rambam, was a Jewish rabbi who lived in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. His work Mishneh Torah, written between 1170 and 1180, includes a hierarchy of angels that places an order of angels known as ×Ö“×ש֓××× (Ishim, literally "Men") at the bottom. Maimonides writes that these angels are so called because they have a level of divine knowledge similar to that of a human and that these are the angels perceived by prophets. Given that that the angel with which Jacob wrestles is called ×Ö“××©Ö“× (ish) and that Maimonides describes the Ishim as being within the realm of human perception, we can infer that 1) Jacob wrestled with an angel of the order Ishim and 2) Angels of this order can be perceived and, indeed, grappled by humans. If an Ish can be grasped by both human minds and human bodies, there's no reason to believe why the angel that Jacob wrestled wouldn't have an elbow joint to hyperextend
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