r/systemscringe with DID disinformation and the most despicable takes...
Now, before I share the screenshot of what u/Competitive_Watch121 is complaining about, I want you to take that little nugget about the the system they know "somehow throwing their parents under the bus" and tuck it away for now. That's going to be important later!
To be completely fair, I can see that there are absolutely valid criticisms of how this was written. It comes off as very amateurish. I support them raising awareness of plurality and DID, but yeah... maybe edit it a bit better.
And I think u/frost_squash733 makes a sort of good point about OSDD-1b not technically being an official disorder, but I want to add a bit more nuance to this...
What's said above is mostly true. I would argue the subtypes still kind of exist though. They just aren't labeled as such. Here's the DSM-5:
These are not labeled as 1a and 1b, but OSDD-1 still encompasses both types. And it's just easier to say that you have OSDD-1b than to say "I have the variant of OSDD-1 with distinct alters and no amnesia."
I think it's important to remind people when you can that these aren't clinical terms. But they are still useful terms for differentiating between different presentations.
No! Please don't u/acceptable-box4996! I can count the number of times something intelligent and valuable has come out of your mouth on a closed fist!
I promise you that you aren't going to say anything intelligent this time either, and would highly advise you stop trying!
Even the diagnosed ones are faking! 🙄
Do you know just how ARROGANT you have to be to claim that not only are these strangers you don't know faking, not only do you know their mental state better than they know themselves, but you also have a better understanding of their mental state than the psychologists who are educated in the matter and have actually worked directly with the people in question to diagnose them.
There is something to be said of the sheer ego in making such a claim.
Especially when spreading active disinformation. Because "system" originated from the medical community.
Seriously. Just look up "system of alters" on Google Scholar and click some links. It's not hard to find!
And yes, people DID do refer to themselves using "we" pronouns too.
Here's one from a case study back in 1964.
This was before TikTok. It was before the system community formed online in the 90s. It was before the explosion of cases in the 80s. This was during a period where there were only about a hundred cases recognized worldwide.
DID systems have always talked like this!
What are you talking about???
This is completely wrong. DID treatment recommends building relationships between the parts. MANY articles talk about this, but here's a favorite of mine that discusses applying DID treatment to other types of voice hearing.
Notice that listening to the other parts is a key aspect of this treatment!
Ignoring what parts are saying worsens dissociative barriers!
You are supposed to talk to them. To validate them. To build connection!
Saying that treatment just focuses on the trauma and not the parts is misinformation.
And it's dangerous misinformation that will get people killed!
While the article has some minor inaccuracies, it's overall far more accurate than what you're claiming in this comment. I would be much more concerned about people believing you and others on your hatesub, because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about while pretending to be experts and spitting lies that are completely contrary to reality and go against real treatment strategies used by experts!
And here (un)Acceptable-Box, whose own post was filled with dangerous lies, ends by recommending trying to get the DID awareness article taken down!
Yes, u/kosherginger, that about sums my thoughts up about (un)Acceptable-Box's post.
But somehow, it's still not as much as I want to smack the OP who I've been saving for last.
Haha... yeah... system oppression is just being grounded from VR Chat... /s
But seriously, I have a hard time believing that even this hate sub is THAT stupid!
Like surely, at a certain level, they HAVE to know that DID is a heavily stigmatized disorder. That there's a long history of fakeclaiming systems. Including accused child molesters like the False Memory Syndrome Foundation leading smear campaigns against their accusers to claim the accusers were making up their memories of abuse.
People with DID are treated as if they're crazy. They're dehumanized. Being 'out' with DID endangers your personal relationships. It endangers your career.
Beyond the typical ableism, alters of different genders tend to suffer the same type of oppression as trans people do, enduring the exact same stigma when they front and want to identify by their own name and gender identity. And sometimes having DID can make it more difficult to get gender-affirming care if you are a trans system.
When you tell me that people with DID aren't oppressed... I just have a hard time believing that even you could be that obtuse.
Now... remember that thing about the DID system "throwing their parents under the bus" that I told you all to tuck away at the beginning??? Well, now it's finally time to pull it out! Because we're about to get a huge piece of context!
The parents that u/Competitive_Watch121 defended in the first post because they "pay their kid's car insurance" were queerphobic pieces of shit, who kicked out their 14-year-old child for being queer!
And I mean, good for you, I guess, for taking in the kid. 🤷♀️
This whole thing gives heavy abuser vibes.
Like, legitimate abusers.
Normal, well-adjusted parents don't kick out their 14-year-old children for being queer. And it's well-known that DID often comes from childhood trauma. That alone makes me wonder what happened prior to them being kicked out.
I've only heard this one side of the story, but it paints a picture doesn't it?
A child is abused growing up and develops DID. Their parents, presumably religious conservatives, kick them out at 14 for being queer. The child is sent to live with other abusers who defend the queerphobic parents and fakeclaim the kid's DID.
I'm going to assume here that it wasn't JUST the DID being fakeclaimed either, but whatever abuse led to it. You can see that in how they accuse the child of "throwing their parents under the bus" while KNOWING their parents, at the very least, kicked them out for being queer. Of course if the child reported being abused, they would deny that too.
"Think of the poor innocent parents saddled with such an unruly and ungrateful queer child who tells nothing but lies about them." 🤮
And I'm sure they are helping pay for their kid's insurance. Because what better way for abusers to make sure that their secrets stay secret and their reputations stay intact that maintaining some financial control over their child into adulthood?
Abusers love to financially support their grown children because the money is a leash and a muzzle. It's something they can hold over them to maintain power and control.
It's not something done out of the kindness of their hearts. If they loved their child, they wouldn't have kicked them out for being queer.
Do you know what I think u/Competitive_Watch121? You were not "made a villain." You are the villain. You are a monster. At the very least, you defend despicable monsters who would kick out a 14-year-old child for being queer while portraying the parents as the victims.
That alone would be monstrous and indefensible!
But I would be willing to bet you've defended the parents from far worse than you've been willing to talk about in these posts.
And THEN you have the nerve to go and publicly mock this system online!
You, u/Competitive_Watch121, are a horrible piece of garbage! Shame on you!
