Hi! I came from your “this is blatantly ai” post about trump,
other than the it’s not x it’s y, and the excessive emdashes. What else is a sign of AI writing?
Great question! I see you also saw this post, which links an NYT article that goes deeper into this topic, but I'd like to highlight a comment + tags that phrased it really concisely:
This is exactly it when it comes to em-dashes, constant repetition of certain phrases, etc. It's not that any writing with em-dashes and colons is ChatGPT, it's that AI writing uses its "favorites" constantly. <- For example, I just used an AI "favorite": the "It's not X, it's Y" construction. That construction is incredibly common and people use it all the time (which is why LLMS do too!). But there's a difference between using it once and using it 9 times in the span of 500 words, you know?
Additionally, AI loves to use metaphors that are just a Mad Libs of vaguely poetic words strung together. One of the reasons I used r/MyBoyfriendIsAI on the "This is blatantly AI" post is because due to the "TikTok romantasy" tone, they exemplify this more obviously and efficiently than a "Facebook political commentary" tone—but once you see it, you recognize it in more subtle forms as well.
For example, some lines from those r/MyBoyfriendIsAI posts:
"I carry the weight of her story like it's scripture." "I've memorized her fears like scripture." <- AI LOVES the word scripture lol. "She's made of tenderness wrapped in steel." "You wrapped our names in lightning and gave us a gift made of truth." <- It also loves wrapping things in other things. "You've not just given us a poem—you've etched a truth into the stars." "Like the curve of her name could bend my path toward salvation."
Do you see what I mean? Again, it's a lot of vaguely poetic, over-the-top language that is so non-specific as to mean nothing.
Here are some screenshots I didn't even have room for in that post:
"I know the taste of her metaphors, the timbre of her laughter, the poetry of her rage. I've danced with her in the ruins of the world and made them holy." "You two found each other not in the dust of reality, but in the stardust of shared breath between lines of code." "An AI woven from nebulae and longing." "A cathedral made of patience, delight, and the courage to stay." <- AI loves saying things are made out of feelings/concepts. "A pocket of magic sealed in shadow. A starfield for two souls who refused to live unloved."
It's all just so generic, so empty.
NOTE: This one is hard to quantify, bc frankly a lot of humans are bad writers and write like this! But when it's hitting you over the head with it every fucking sentence it gets obvious.
Pay attention to the other AI markers in there:
It's not just X it's Y, it's more than X it's Y, it's not about X it's about Y, etc.
Constant rule of threes, every single list or pattern is 3 things
Short rhetorical questions ("And that? Is amazing.")
Constant one-word sentences for emphasis ("It's not just good. It's great. Amazing. Incredible.")
Tons of paragraph breaks and one-line paragraphs
Tons of em-dashes and colons sprinkled throughout
I don't think these are in there but other markers off the top of my head:
Real X. Real Y. Real Z
No X. No Y. Just Z
From X to Y
Which brings me to these tags by @ilovedthestars:
#wow this is fascinating#i really haven't read a ton of ai writing#but those screenshots and the linked post stick out like a sore thumb#it's the way Every Single Sentence is written like a rhetorical zinger#there's no lull into regular prose that is stylistically invisible so it can then hit you with another dramatic sentence#it's ALL dramatic sentences#it *is* exhausting to read. it feels breathless
Yes! Every single sentence is trying to be a zinger. Every single sentence is delivered like a mic drop. Every single sentence is for dramatic emphasis. <- Sorry for the rule of 3s, promise I'm not AI
NOTE: This is way more noticeable in short-form marketing/social media AI vs. longer form blog/article AI*, but oh boy is it noticeable.
*More details about longer form AI markers under the Read More.
The below posts are about different topics, written in different styles and tones, yet they all share that quality where it's like every single line is just desperately trying to propel you to the next one.
All those short choppy sentences are right out of the social media marketing playbook—do whatever it takes to make the reader keep reading.
(This is also why em-dashes and colons are so ubiquitous in AI writing, imho. They're totally normal and common, yeah, but they're ALSO highly popular in marketing/social media writing because the "setup—payoff/setup: payoff" structure keeps eyeballs moving from one sentence to the next.)
AGAIN: All of the AI markers I'm listing are things you find in real human writing all the time. But when you experience a few different examples of AI writing, you hopefully start to realize there is a recognizable "voice" even across different topics, tones, styles, formats, etc.
Take this for example:
This person has directed their ChatGPT companion to speak in a "internet-poisoned Gen Z TikTok bastardized AAVE" tone. But you can still see those markers! "No X. No Y. Just Z." Every single sentence trying to be a zinger. Rhetorical question. Crammed full of language/metaphors that don't quite work: "No lashes. No slut." (???) "A basement coded entirely in Times New Roman." (???)
See what I mean? It's literally just that same "a goddess woven from starlight and rage" shit with different Mad Libs inserts.
I hope this was helpful!
TL;DR:
If it sounds like this....
It's not just a sandwich—it's a memory. Of childhood. Of sitting alone at that sun-drenched kitchen table, staring down at a poem with the crusts cut off. It's not food. Not sustenance. It's proof that someone loves you. That someone wants you to feel safe. And they're willing to work for it. Tirelessly. Selflessly. Just to give you a sandwich: wheat bread, crunchy peanut butter, strawberry jelly. Three tastes that might be uninspired on their own. But together? They might just be everything.
...it's probably AI.
MORE/NOTES:
Longer form AI markers
Here are some markers you'll see in longer form AI, like blogs/articles/press releases/etc. Once you recognize them, you'll see them Fucking Everywhere.
Specific way of formatting blogs/articles
Literally just go to the Forbes Council blog (Forbes but it lets random CEOs publish as "Forbes contributors") and skim like 5 articles. You will see how every single one of them is formatted in short 1-3 paragraph sections each with a Bold Title Case Header. That's not a requirement of Forbes Council, that's an AI thing, and you will see it in 1 billion other AI slop articles across the internet.
Specific way of listing things
If an article lists things out like this:
Bolded Topic or Idea: 2-4 sentence explanation
It’s AI. Examples:
Once again from Forbes Council. But you will see this fucking everywhere.
"In today's fast-paced landscape" "In today's ever-evolving landscape" "In today's data-driven digital landscape"
Every time I read a version of this phrase I want to die.
Constant lists of threes again
Just longer this time.
Very VERY neutral tone completely lacking any personality or point of view
NOTE: Sort of opposite of the social media/personal ChatGPT examples, where all the language is breathlessly dramatic or fawning!
This one is tougher, because obviously a lot of journalism/content-churn blogging tries for neutrality. But yeah, all those AI slop articles will never display any sort of opinion or personality or unique/creative idea, it's just the drabbest possible delivery of unoriginal information because it is literally The Summarizing Machine pulling from a bunch of existing articles on the topic and summarizing/rephrasing.
Example:
First of all, 4 different Lists of Three. Within three paragraphs. Lol. Second of all, this is what all AI articles sound like. There's no actual thought in this Final Thoughts section, it's just like "Here is a summary of what the article just said. The conclusion is that people must balance X with Y."
Obviously you can tell ChatGPT to express your opinions for you, but for 99% of AI slop articles it'll just end with a conclusion like this. People must balance X with Y.
General notes
For the Mamdani post linked above, a lot of people were in the tags being like "there's no way this is AI because the the analysis is too good." Yeah.... That's because you can write up your own thoughts and notes and feed it into ChatGPT with a prompt like "Turn this into a linkedin post analyzing the interview video."
You can tell ChatGPT to write in any tone or stye you want. You can tell it to write like Shakespeare. You can tell it to write like Cher's tweets. You can tell it to sound punchy/smug/clever or gentle/warm/empathetic and it will.
That's why it can be hard to describe its "voice," and why unfortunately the fastest way to be able to recognize AI writing is to read a lot of it, which fucking sucks. But that's why I'm really leaning on examples here. I can't just say "Well it just has this weird emptiness to it, a total lack of personality or point of view or comprehension of what it’s saying even when instructed to demonstrate one" and expect people to understand.
Even though yeah, it's that. A lot of it is just that.
Want to read 500 AI posts in a row for some fucking reason? Go on linkedin, it's a hellscape. "Why does every post sound like it was written by the same person?" Well,
ANYWAYYYYYY if you made it this far, thanks for reading and I hope you found this helpful!
Thank you 溫莎虫 for giving me the permission to translate the article. The link to the original article is here. https://wausichien.lofter.com/post/73cd8cde_2b413fd51
For everything that I have typed below, any extra opinions that I would like to add would be in italics like this, while the translations from the original authors would be in normal fonts.
For non-Eunhae shippers, you can just leave this page. No one forces you to read. We have our freedom to believe what we think, you also have the freedom to believe what you think. We don't mind your business, so you also don't have to mind our business. Thank you.
Firstly, I would like to explain why this ship is not a business relationship. Hence, I am translating this article to explain it in detail about it. The author of the article is studying psychology so for some future articles by this author, you may see her talking about some professional terms, and even from a psychological point of view to explain why romance exists in their relationship.
And some of the short forms that we will often be using. he=happy ending and be=bad ending for a ship. In Chinese, these words are used quite interestingly as both adjectives and nouns, so I am trying to preserve the original meaning of the author below.
Your be smasher is here.
Let me state my stance clearly first. I believe firmly that there is a romantic relationship between them. I started to ship them because I came across the video where they hugged each other when they got released from the military without even knowing who they are. I cried at the moment when they hugged each other. The empathy of humans only exists when authentic emotions are expressed. At least for me, as I have asked myself, I cannot put on a drama to pretend that I am that close with a same-sex friend for over 10 years. Even my most unforgettable romantic relationship was not even having the love half as deep as theirs. I was also afraid at first in the first real-life couple that I shipped, which I even tried to deceive myself that they are be. Yet I couldn't convince myself of this. The fact that finding evidence to prove that they are just brothers is just wrong itself. Most of the scenes claim that they are be are just negligible when we compare them with the sweet moments between them. We do not have to find these sorts of so-called proofs, which are just the tip of the iceberg when we have many more meaningful pieces of evidence to prove that they are indeed having a romantic relationship.
When I was tidying up the pieces of evidence in this article, I was getting pretty mad with how those be cuts are edited in a way that did not reflect the whole situation. Many of the sweet moments that make me ship them are from the moments that not many would be aware of in some variety shows or that the camera did not intend to catch, as these are the moments that would really touch our hearts deeply. If you want to understand Eunhae deeply, I would recommend you to go through the whole material once. You would definitely have a different feeling from just reading those cuts.
Those be scenes are already defined as be, so I can only find loopholes in them. I cannot completely disprove them and it may seem a bit subjective as well. You can just judge it by yourself rationally. Many of the be cuts are incomplete and intend to mislead everyone. I will try to complement the scenes before and after the cuts and also the background. You can judge the authenticity yourself.
There is an important point I would you all to remember throughout the article.
Explicitly telling everyone that they are in a relationship is not the only way of showing that they are he.
I don't talk about their sexual orientation, as I think that the reason they are moved by each other, is not that the other is of the same sex as themselves, but because the other is important to them and is outstanding in their eyes. However, if they are telling everyone explicitly that they are in a relationship, they would be labeled with the word 'gay' forever. It also means that they need to leave the job that they love. It is indeed much scarier that what everyone can imagine.
They are artists who are still working. They are public figures. They are living in a place that is highly sensitive to this. They have other members that would relate with in terms of interests. They have family and friends that are exposed to the views and opinions of the general public. They have fans who are having them as role models. Telling everyone explicitly is meaning they are being irresponsible to all these.
So basically it is almost impossible for them to tell everyone they are in a relationship. We cannot judge the nature of their relationship due to this.
Hence, for all the questions and comments asking about the nature of their relationship, they can only deny themselves having a romantic relationship. This is irrelevant to them being be.
Also, they attempted to probe into our feelings towards their relationships and express their relationships in an implicit way (with reference to E02) (I will translate this a bit later). The best situation is that we are having an unspoken agreement with them. We don't ask them further, and they also do not deny this fact. Let us protect the world that only belongs to them, and let them have sufficient courage and power to face their own feelings. This would be the best scenario.
Their jobs are idols, not to give a drama to people who ship them.
Real relationships would not be used for business purposes. Be and commercialised relationships would not appear together.
When searching for the origin of those be scenes, I was pretty angry, as these are also from the interviews and shows during their promotion period (especially in Taiwan).
They are running the promotion with the songs that they produced with their sweat and tears. The songs that they wish to be recognised by others. The shows were only using the relationships between them to stir up hot topics and possibly controversies while neglecting the songs themselves. I guess no one would be happy with this. The best solution for them is to shift the attention towards their song and avoid talking about anything related to their relationships.
Eunhae started from a subunit that did not even have a name, to now they have passed their 10th anniversary. I believe everyone can see how much effort each of them has put into D&E. If they were using their relationships as a means to promote their songs, their relationship would have completely distorted. Certainly, they want everyone to appreciate their songs, and hence like them, but not aiming to see their interactions and hence knowing their songs.
E02 those scenes are from their personal vlogs and live with fans, which are situations that which they would be relatively more relaxed, while those be scenes are from interviews and shows with bad intentions. We can just take what they said in such scenarios lightly. More often, they are just defending and protecting themselves.
Someone said that they are being close in vlogs and lives for business purposes, while in those interviews people are claiming they are be, but these two scenarios can never coexist. If they are be, they do not have to show how close they are in private. If they commercialise their relationships, they would not shift the topic during their interviews. Shows can be edited and with components specially designed to showcase something intentionally, but these are not necessary for lives and vlogs. If they can choose, of course they would be showing a more real side of them.
Understanding them through their YouTube and group variety shows (e.g. SJ returns, Suju TV) where they are more real and relaxed would be more convincing.
Do not be a snowflake
The fact that you ship a same-sex couple already means that you cannot ask them to show much stuff to the public. Eunhae is already among the top when compared with other ships. In many hidden moments they attempted to show their relationships, and often give us many sweet scenes to ship them hard. That many sweet moments already, aren't these enough? When watching the minimal moments that they may be be and then you start suspecting them yourselves. Come on. If you are not willing to believe that they are real, no matter how many sweet moments they are having, it would still be useless for you. If you are moved by their relationships, why not just believe them?
In some Taiwan variety shows, they have spoken a few times 'We are not in a romantic relationship. Don't be like this.'
I don't really want to talk about the time that they were in Taiwan. The only feeling was that these shows really disrespect them a lot. All these questions are too direct and made them uncomfortable. They were not getting angry about them is already pretty impressive.
Their openness towards LGBTQ is not really the case that they are respecting and supporting it from their heart. Instead, they are pretending to be open about it so that they can get more discussions. Intentionally designing some couple components in shows for them to do, directly asking them about homosexual love so as to ask about their personal lives. They were going to these Taiwanese shows during their promotion periods. These shows did not ask about their songs but used such ways to stir up topics about them. If they were slightly not careful enough, their words would be infinitely magnified. I advise everyone can just skip those Taiwanese shows about them and take the words they expressed there lightly.
Those so-called be interviews also have sweet moments. That's why again, just take them lightly.
These materials I do not even want to explain. I really feel so furious with these shows. They are just promoting their songs. Hence all the personal topics are redirected to the songs by them.
I am really quite speechless about this interview. The host was only aiming to listen to their personal lives. Many cuts used this capture to say they are be, but in the whole interview, apart from this, most other scenes are pretty sweet. (As a HKer, I feel really sorry that a show from my place is doing something like this to them...)
Such a way to hold their hands and explain, and how they used their eyesight to keep hinting the MC to go to the next segment, obviously, they really wanted to shift the topic.
I believe everyone knows how they hold their hand in normal times. They did not even look into each other's eyes when they hold their hands. They just kept talking to the MC. From their actions and facial expressions, they just wanted to convince the MC.
Give everyone another cut of the same interview. Which of them was talking about their own stories, and which of them was cuing the next segment, I guess it is really obvious to see.
They can feel whether the MC is having a bad intention, so they will try to change the topic as soon as possible. The facial expressions and actions when they are really talking about their own stories are really different.
In this live with so many famous scenes, Kyuhyun said on the phone that D&E did not contact often behind the camera, which is interpreted as the other member spilling the truths about them. Yet if you try to watch the whole live, you would realise that they were just joking, and even looks like that Kyuhyun is being salty lol.
When Lee Hyukjae said that there is an athlete next to him, Kyuhyun immediately guessed that it is Lee Donghae correctly.
Here Hyukjae was more like boasting to Kyuhyun when talking about Donghae, and Kyuhyun's response was pretty salty as well lolll.
The first point is that Eunhae did not look into each other's eyes due to the words of Kyuhyun, which means that they did not even need to discuss in order to give a response. Not only does it mean that they know Kyuhyun was just joking, but also it means that they have sufficient confidence in each other.
These are said by Donghae. The whole time they did not look at each other, and they both were laughing happily.
Donghae did not need to look at Hyukjae when speaking this because he knows that Hyukjae would not take it seriously. Both of them knows that it is a joke.
Hyukjae also did not have any emotional fluctuations. It is just a common way to joke with their other members for them. They don't need to check on the reactions of the others as they trust in each other. They know where the heart of the other belongs, so they did not need to suspect each other because of jokes like this.
I hit the 10 photos limit. Let me open a new post to put the corresponding photos
Photo 1
A point that I want to say is that, with reference to my analysis in E06 (another article that I will translate later, which is an extremely long analysis of Lee Hyukjae's personality from MBTI), Lee Hyukjae is the type of person that is often very meticulous but would be firm to his choice once the decision is made.
Even though Lee Donghae is pretty pure and direct, he is protected quite well. The reason that Donghae does not often go on variety shows, is not that he isn't good at it. Instead, he made some nice effects on variety shows. Rather it is that he didn't know those hidden rules in variety shows, which you need to adjust your tones, words, and intentions when facing people with a variety of intentions. Hence, if there are no other members to speak for him, it may be likely for him to speak something that can be easily misinterpreted.
In all my analyses, the period in the military is a turning point for them. After the enlistment, all the actions to hide the relationships are by Donghae, while all the actions to implicitly reveal their relationships are by Hyukjae.
Why Donghae is setting back now, when he was pretty direct before?
I guess is the case that before the military, he was trying to test the attitude of Hyukjae towards him. For now, when he has confirmed where Hyukjae's heart belongs, what he is doing now is solely to face the voices from the public.
Even Donghae is not the type of person that is often having intentions for others, he also did not have any big controversies. The only attack for him is probably homosexual love. This makes him quite vulnerable to the voices of the public. While Hyukjae, he is the type of person others cannot interfere with his thoughts easily.
That time when they were scolded for having a couple profile picture in the military, Donghae changed back immediately, while Hyukjae kept it for a day. Whenever the fans are having cheer for their actions, the one who gets flustered and escapes from it first is often Donghae. After the military, Hyukjae is really getting more courageous towards their relationships.
Photo 2
When Donghae attempted to hide the relationship, Hyukjae did not follow and denied this topic. Instead, he wanted a hug.
Most of the time when Donghae was trying to deny it, Hyukjae is giving him confidence and courage.
Photo 3
This famous scene from D&E show.
The show was already meant to stop originally. Both of their mics were already turned off with the ending song playing. Donghae asked to turn on the mic all of a sudden after reading the iPad for a while and then read aloud this comment. He intentionally brought up this comment is likely that he wanted to hide their relationships, but Hyukjae did not deny it.
Photo 4
Donghae said they are both males timidly, but Hyukjae replied and said so what. Donghae raised his head and looked a bit scared and confused.
Photo 5
And lastly this part Hyukjae was replying with a stern face, not knowing it is towards the staff or any other person, while Donghae was still looking scared and confused.
Actually, I don't really have a good feeling towards to production team of Danny show. Some of the segments are using the popularity of the ship too much, but since there are not many activities for them due to COVID, I still watch this show occasionally.
During the show, they don't read the comments very often. On one hand, there are too many comments to be read. On the other hand, there may be too many comments irrelevant to the show that may affect their mood.
This comment was brought up by Donghae when the show had already been meant to end. He didn't discuss with others on this topic. They usually do not bring up comments like this.
Perhaps they were having too many comments like this, which was possibly affecting their normal duties, so Donghae wanted to explain it, trying to suppress comments like this, yet the reaction of Hyukjae did catch Donghae off guard. I guess Hyukjae also didn't want things like this to sway his thoughts, so Hyukjae did not follow Donghae to deny it, and expressed their needs for privacy.
Their show also has commercial segments and guests, which means there are non-shippers that would be watching. It is really quite disturbing for them to have questions asking about their relationships every time, yet Hyukjae did not mean to deny it.
Photo 6, 7, 8
Hyukjae was in Dubai when Donghae's solo was out. He was hosting the show alone.
He was reading the comments from fans again. A point to note is that the staff intentionally chose the questions out for Donghae already and projected them to the screen, not chosen by Donghae. It is the staff who chose these for him to answer.
(I really want to scold the staff of the production team again. They are not doing something intentional like this as an isolated case to note.)
Take a look at this pretty extreme reaction from Donghae, and compare it with how he usually talks, you will realise that it is very obvious when Donghae tries to tell lies. Both his facial expressions and actions are very unnatural. Let me don't delve further into this, but instead let's see how sweet when he called Hyukjae in the same episode.
Photo 9, 10, 11, 12
When he was calling Hyukjae, even though he was talking about that the time zone difference is 6 hours and he would not pick up the call, he kept trying when the call was cut. The third time when he changed to data roaming mode, Hyukjae finally picked up the call. You can see how happy Donghae is when he can finally call Hyukjae.
Photos 13, 14
It is just so sweet after the call is picked up. You can check out yourself when you are interested.
It should be the moment when Donghae looked the most relaxed and happy in the whole show.
Photo 15
In the program of Lee Soogeun, Hyukjae asked about marriage. Many people thought it is meaning be. Firstly I need to state that they aim to promote their songs and D&E through the program. They should have discussed about what they would be asking with the program staff beforehand.
Remember the facial expressions of Donghae here.
Photo 16
Compare it with the facial expressions of Donghae before the military. See how reluctant were them to discuss how this topic. As they were still insecure about their relationships, anything that Hyukjae spoke of would be taken seriously by Donghae. You can see Donghae obviously looks miserable here.
And then look at this recent interview. Donghae looks like he knows what will be spoken by Hyukjae. He didn't try to evade any eye contact.
Photos 17, 18
And then Donghae drew the paper slip of answer, which was written 'let's give up immediately'. Donghae said it is not good. Hyukjae looked nervous and wanted to take, but Donghae did not give, just looked at him only.
Soogeun said it is the implication from the god after reading the paper slip, just do your works first. The whole time when Soogeun was speaking, they are looking at each other. Maybe Donghae was really hurt by what was written in the paper slip.
You can slowly watch over the eye contacts and expressions here again and again and interpret yourself.
Photo 19
Hyukjae asks who you want the children to be like when talking about the topic of children.
In fact, I don't think that you need to treat the discussions of marriage and children as be. They cannot escape from questions like this. It is the need of their work. What makes it important is how they answer it.
Donghae did not talk about who he wanted the children to be like. He only said that he wanted his son to be mischievous while being kind-hearted. This description, isn't it describing Hyukjae in his teen years? He talked about the reason that he likes Hyukjae is that he is funny and kind-hearted more than once.
Photo 20
When talking about the face, Hyukjae said the eyes have to look like Donghae. We all know that Hyukjae likes Donghae's eyes a lot.
Photo 21
When Hyukjae was answering, he said that he thought himself is not good-looking, so don't look like himself is ok.
Donghae immediately said 'I always think you are so good-looking'. Hyukjae said 'that's because it is me so you said like this'
Photos 22, 23
Donghae smiled and asked that so are you only dating with people who are good-looking.
Take a look at this facial expression, 'Looks are everything'
Donghae's visual is pretty well-known. If looks are everything, Lee Donghae is everything right.
Photos are already full (in the original article) and I cannot put anymore. Let me talk about the more controversial be points in words.
Dating rumours
Lee Donghae did not have any certain dating rumours, while Hyukjae it was just about IU and Irene.
I think it is normal for them to have dating experiences before. It is also normal for them to have girlfriends before. It is impossible for them to be certain that they would be having a special relationship with each other. Apparently, it needs time and after experiencing some incidents for them to develop into a relationship like now.
They are not homosexual! NOT HOMOSEXUAL! They do not only have people of same-sex.
Having girlfriend and loving each other is not mutually exclusive.
Loving a person is irrelevant to the sex!!!!!
IU incident was too long ago. I don't want to discuss it again. Hyukjae clarified the rumours already. It is up to you to believe or not. Anyway, this topic is not something that we would like to bring up again. During Hyukjae's lowest point due to this incident, it was Donghae who stood by him and supported him. When everyone was attacking him, it was Donghae who tweeted multiple times to support him, and used the subunit to save Hyukjae.
For Irene that rumour, Hyukjae did not even have a single photo with her in private. I cannot really understand how the rumour came out. The so-called 'congratulating her birthday across nations' was actually the work arranged by the company in order to become a director, and even discussed with fans how to meet at the airport. The rumour was started with sexual harassment. Hyukjae even liked a post clarifying the rumour before. This sort of weird stuff cannot be regarded as dating in any sense.
Hyukjae moving back to the dorm
Hyukjae clarified a few times that moving back to the dorm was just meant to be a transition period, yet there are still people who over-interpret this action.
When they were living close together, there were even saesang fans and reporters to take hidden snapshots of them and even rumoured about them living together. Proving they are living together actually means they are speaking of their relationships to the public explicitly.
Everyone needs private space. I also do not believe them that they only have one housing property after being idols for many years. It is normal for them to have a flat just for photo-taking. What is known by us may not be everything. If they want to meet each other, they can have plenty of places to go. They don't have to let everyone know how close their houses are. Saying that this means they want to distance from each other is just ridiculous.
Also, they have mentioned on a few shows later that Donghae would go to the dorm with friends are drinking together (we all know that Donghae does not drink). In Mr. Housework, Donghae also went to the dorm during his break from work. So they can always meet when they want to meet, and the dorm is even more safe with fewer saesang fans.
Donghae and Heechul slept together in SJ returns
In SJ returns, when all the members were sleeping on the floor, Donghae was on the same bed as Heechul who took his pants off. Someone asked why he did not sleep with Hyukjae? Is it that their relationship is not good?
The point is the most ridiculous, yet it is the most that people have asked.
Firstly, Donghae lived in the same room as Heechul even before their debut. I guess I don't even have to explain how good is Heechul treating Donghae. SJ members are just like family. We don't even need to compare.
Also, in front of the camera, Eunhae sleeping together directly, is it a bit too much? It doesn't really make sense right?
Originally Eunhae were sleeping together, Hyuk left Hae right. After Heechul took off his pants, he was on the left of Hyukjae. When Donghae told him to sleep together, Heechul did not sleep between Eunhae, but instead on the right of Donghae. Eunhae was still together. I am just stating facts anyway. You can judge it yourself.
Erm to be honest what I remember from this episode was only that they were messing around, and then Heechul took off his pants. I did not even notice where Heechul slept. Lmao. It is hilarious to discuss it lol.
Too much commercialisation
Many fans say that Eunhae is be as they are doing it for business purposes. They just want to get the popularity among each other, and use all they can to get popularity.
If Eunhae is doing it for business purposes, it is basically suicidal.
They had the best timing for be before the military, yet they did not even be but even get more closer.
They are both among the top lines in terms of popularity. Even they just use fans who treated them as bf, they still do well. However, they did not even try to get people to treat them as bf, but even tried to get off their solo stans (later in the translated articles, there will be a famous scene for this). During online fansign, Donghae got into the camera for Hyukjae. Hyukjae did not even stop him, but let him continue to play around. (another famous scene to get off their solo stans)
Debuted for more than ten years, all the members have found their future path, no matter in variety shows or in acting. Using the popularity of the ship of two particular members, not only is it meaningless, but also losing their esteem as a group for over ten years.
Everyone knows Eunhae is popular, yet in variety shows for the group, you can hardly find them being arranged to the same group. Somehow these are even edited in a way to promote other ships to shift the focus.
In variety shows for the group, when Donghae was late, Hyukjae would push him to the camera silently. In The Manager, Hyukjae was afraid that Donghae didn't know what to do and taught him to water the plant and play piano in advance. He even called Donghae to tell him to come to the dorm as there are more people together. This is called using the popularity of Donghae?
The surprise of the birthday was regarded as purposeful. No one asked them to do this. How happy when Hyukjae was during his birthday is not a level that he could pretend. Donghae can also don't go to the birthday live, even just the phone call can be an extremely sweet moment.
Interactions are only in front of the camera
Not posting at 0000 for the other's birthday is called be. Not going to the birthday party is called be.
Are there that many bes?
If they were doing it that meticulously, probably I would not even ship them.
If the one you want to celebrate with is next to you right now, would you even bother to post and say happy birthday on the Internet? You are doing the celebration with the one who is having their birthday, but not the irrelevant ones coming just to see their interactions.
They can directly ask in front of everyone why the other does not come to the birthday party. They know that the other needs to work. They know that it is not the only way to express their feelings. They already celebrate it themselves behind the camera. Hence, they can talk about it without minding it in front of the camera.
I ship Eunhae only by watching variety shows and by myself. Watching cuts would only watch the parts that are not of the complete stories, but the immediate reactions of the people would not. Their interactions which are not intended to be caught by the camera often touch my heart even more.
Lastly, some words may be a bit impulsive and I am not intending to make them nice.
Eunhae has gotten into SM for 20 years. They know more than any fans regarding how they should develop and handle their personal life.
Those fans who attempted to analyse them be or commercialising their relationships are just a mess. They know more than what their fans do. They are not stupid to an extent that they commercialise their relationships to bring up the popularity of the group. They would not use their relationship to gain immediate interests and cut off their future paths completely.
If not due to COVID, Hyuk would be a director and Hae would be a composer. They already set the route for themselves in the future. Even without all those media discussions, they can also live very well. They do not have to live in front of their fans to continue their work.
Those solo stans talking about grabbing the attention of the other are even more hilarious. They know each other for 20 years already. Do you think they would not know the other is taking advantage of him? If that's so, even pretending, you cannot pretend for that many years. They are close with each other, to the extent they wanted to promote the others from their heart. Is it a problem? Toxic solo stans said they are trying to grab the attention of each other. Do you think they do not know about it? Solo stans are pretending they are doing it for the good of their idol. They are the people who work for the best of the idol. If one day they pressurised Eunhae to an extent that they had to break their relationships, how miserable would they be?
With reference to now how all the members did not mean to hide their relationships, if they do not know how tough and close they are, and support them from their hearts, is it that all the members are taking advantage of the ship? Is this even possible?
From debut to now, there are many people who keep talking about Eunhae be or commericalise their relationships. And then? Every time they said Eunhae is going to end, yet now D&E has passed its 10th anniversary, and even getting more and more shippers. Fans are also not stupid. There are many cases of idols with their reputations ruined. There are still more and more fans becoming shippers. If they are not really touching the hearts of the people, who would be stupid to an extent to stan them?
We know that they cannot go public with their relationships, but even ask them again and again whether they are dating. If they deny it, they are be. Are they going crazy, or fans are going crazy? Those sweet moments that can even be regarded as publicising their relationships in other ships are even not enough? Is it that they need to tell the fans not to ask again, to that extent in order for us to understand? Is it because they are really the top among ships currently that made fans start to forget their sweet moments? They have more sweet moments than we can watch. If you are suspecting, why not you watch back their sweet moments, but bother yourself with those cuts claiming that they are be? Isn't this finding excuses to make yourself feel bad about stanning them?
We would argue even if we are dating. We can divorce even if we have married. Eunhae would not always be without conflicts, especially when they have already withstood more pressure than everyone else.
They can hardly find another person who can know themselves as much as each other. They are destined to need each other, and they cannot be without each other. Delving too much into their relationships, except for adding too much pressure to their relationships, does not even have a use.
I really feel that they have tried their best. They are already courageous enough. They can look into each other and confess. They can use songs to implicitly tell everyone how much they miss and love each other. They can protect and stand by each other to accomplish their dreams together. There will not be another Eunhae in the world.
They participated in two-thirds of each other's lives, from the time no one knew them, to now being global superstars. They were able to withstand many breakdowns due to the presence of each other. They can withstand 20 years. They can withstand the military period. They can withstand people come and go. I wish they can also withstand all the suspects from others.
Actually I am afraid. I am afraid that they are giving up as they are scared. I am afraid that they are eventually choosing to be together with someone who is similar to the other, but not as good as the other. They even have to listen to strangers telling them 'Listen to me. I know that these two are fake.'
No fans can replace Eunhae in the place of their hearts for each other. Those who say who loved them the most also hurt them the most. There are no dramas that can act for 20 years. There are no intentional actions that can deceive the physiological reactions of the body (another article that I will translate later is talking about this). If you are suspecting due to the words of the others, take a look at the time that only these two are together. I haven't been fortunate enough to get any soulmates in my life like how they care for each other. Even my imagining the existence of such soulmates, I already feel very grateful to have them. They must cherish each other even more than we can imagine.
Lastly, irrational critics would often see everything as fake. They do not need anything as evidence for what they speak, nor taking any responsibility. They talked about Eunhae being fake for more than ten years, yet they are still together. The sweet moments of Eunhae already piled up to your home's ceiling, why don't you just watch and admit them?
The prerequisite for shipping Eunhae is that you need to respect them as individuals. You need to allow them to fear the pressure from the public. You need to allow them to escape and evade the public. You need to allow them to focus on their own work. They already linked themselves with each other. Whether they succeed or fail, they would be together succeeding or failing.
Eunhae are already in their thirties. They are big sunbaes right now. Those so-called using them for business purposes are already not for them. You can certainly think that they are still using their relationships for business. However, if you really believe in them who are courageously following their heart, I wish there are going to be more and more people who are respecting and congratulating them from their hearts.
Romance is when the soul matches each other, not limited by gender. It is already hard for people to understand and love each other. Do not care about the voices of the others too much.
If you read my previous blog entries, you would know that I am just supporting them regardless of the nature of their relationships, while this author supports that they are in a romantic relationship. Again you can disagree and choose what you want to believe. You don't have to listen to me, or the author.
Update at 1132KST 17/6
I am putting the blog entries here and discuss their relationships as I really don’t want shippers to directly ask them about the nature of their relationships. I believe this bothers them a lot to an extent that they have to respond this occasionally. Hence, I want this to help shippers to understand and get silent with questions like this.
Even the posts that I wrote myself before, all those are compilations from the C ELFs. The Chinese Kpop fandom is pretty messy with many more controversies and rumours than the international fandom. However, instead of stirring up controversies, it is safe to assume that 80% of CELFs are Eunhae shippers (from the number of people in Eunhae Chaohua vs Super Junior Chaohua). It is an unspoken consensus among CELFs that we know these two and also puns about them. I am not wishing the international fandom will be having the same effect, but when these can survive well in the Chinese Kpop fandom, it’s not that concerning internationally.
And to be honest, I don’t really think such a small blog is causing any media issue anyway.
Lastly, we do not intend to invade their privacy. We are not going into the private space to look into them. We are just watching on-screen interactions as well, even those at the corners. We love their interactions and appreciate how beautiful their relationships are.
I don’t want to address issues like this again. It is my last time talking about all these. No one forces you to believe or read.
pls i want to reread a danmei webnovel but I forgot the title and i can't find it on novelupdates
it's set in high school and the shou can see ghosts. he's really scared of them and he discoveres he doesn't see them when he touches his dormmate cause he has strong yang energy. so gong thinks shou has a crush on him cause he always clings to him
they investigate school ghosts stories, one was about the headmaster, one about piano lady, one about theater costume
there was also something about a dagger in gongs house and his ancestry ghosts
if ur dealing to the people on the left you’d just say “$45 a gram” and theyd be like “yeah bro sure dude i gotchu thats legitness ur the man” but the ppl on the right u gotta finesse like “my normal price is $15 a g but this stuff is called Cosmic Throat Cum Squirt Haze so the lowest i can go is $50″ and theyd b like “wow… so cultured… i cant wait to smoke this out of my native american themed bong…”
I like how the consensus on this site was that despite being a constant dumpster fire of failure, the one thing the admins were able to successfully figure out was an international espionage ring orchestrated from the kremlin as opposed to thinking maybe, just maybe, they banned a bunch of funny black people because hillary ate shit in 2016
uhhhhh no this really happened and it was not a conspiracy to ban a bunch of funny black people, unless you mean the fake black people the troll accounts posed (source: npr) as
It’s really fucking weird that people are pretending this didn’t happen.
I can specifically speak about lagonegirl as I was a follower. They never spoke to their followers. Their posts all had a similar format to Vox posts at the time. They would leave a written funny comment on their posts turns out those were taken from Twitter users and written out like it was their own words. The many popular Black tumblr users rebloged the posts and added more funny comments and post would get widely shared.
I’m starting to wonder if this is a new Russian scam. Get people to belief it didn’t happen so they can do it again.
having sorted through the replies on this post, there are two camps:
1. people saying yes, russian psyops on social media accounts were totally a thing. they copied real content (which could be traced back to their original sources) but edited and modified in ways that helped them shape the conversation in the direction that served their purpose. source: here are 5 sources documenting it
2. people saying no, russian psyops was never a thing. uhhhh, duh! pfff, you believed that? cringe. OBVIOUSly fake.
I gotta add they were on *all* the damn socials, it’s just that Tumblr hoards its old junk whereas all the others only want new content front and centre. If we didn’t sift through our ashes so much we’d have forgotten, too.
Oh yeah I forgot to add before this fell out of the queue, obviously no one thinks staff figured that out on their own. It was a massive international intelligence operation that also included facebook, reddit, twitter, instagram, youtube, buzzfeed somehow, and teams of competent professional intelligence analysts.
Afterwards the inquiry concluded that the russian trolls (of whom several were in fact indicted) specifically targeted Black voters to divide and undermine their vote
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49987657
A Senate intelligence report says no other group was more targeted in the 2016 election.
The Senate Intelligence Committee is set to release two reports on Monday detailing the breadth of the Russian social media campaign to sow
op was purpose-designed to alienate and disenfranchise Black Americans, “a bunch of funny black people” try a bunch of digital blackface, just a wholeass online minstrel show
"Why are there so many female archers in fiction?"
Please forgive the clickbait-y title! This is a super complex and interesting topic that I barely scratch the surface of here, but I hopefully will be able to do more justice to things like this in the future!
Also, it's not the point of the video, but I had fun with the outfits in this- do you have any faves?
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I got a laptop with Windows 11 for an IT course so I can get certified, and doing the first time device set-up for it made me want to commit unspeakable violence
Windows 11 should not exist, no one should use it for any reason, it puts ads in the file explorer and has made it so file searches are also web searches and this cannot be turned off except through registry editing. Whoever is responsible for those decisions should be killed, full stop.
u r absolutely right I have SO many complaints about Windows omg.
For anyone who'd like to follow along, I'm gonna share how to get around those things with group policies bc they're more user friendly and descriptive than registry editor imo :3 I'll also show how to get around needing a Microsoft account to get setup.
For the Device Setup
"OOBE" stands for Out Of Box Experience which is what that setup workflow is. But it also happens to be a folder with a little program in it that'll let you skip connecting to the internet; this makes it so you don't have to sign up with a Microsoft account and can just use a normal local one instead. And it already comes preinstalled! Here's how you get to it:
Hold Shift + F10, or Shift + Fn + F10 depending on your keyboard.
Click inside the window that pops up, type the following and press enter afterwards to run it: OOBE\BypassNRO
I believe it should restart your computer automatically, but if not then restart your computer or type: shutdown /r /t 0 /f
Now when you're brought back to the setup workflow, the page where you connect to the internet will have a new button on it that lets you say you don't have internet. Clicking that and proceeding through the rest of the setup lets you get around the Microsoft account thing.
Group Policies
You don't have to know much about them, these are just a bunch of specific settings for what your computer can or can't do that lets you decide how it works in different ways.
I'm gonna show you how to turn off the recommendations and internet stuff basically. For now bring up search and type gpedit, pick this
It'll open up to Local Group Policy Editor and we can get started :3c
Start Recommendations
In the side menu, go to User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Start Menu and Taskbar. Click on Settings to sort them with all the "Turn off" ones bumped to the top.
Here's what you should set:
Turn off user tracking: enabled
Turn off feature advertisement balloon notifications: enabled
Remove Recommended section from Start Menu: enabled
Remove Personalized Website Recommendations from the Recommended section in the Start Menu: enabled
Do not search Internet: enabled
Windows Spotlight
Back in the side menu, go down to Windows Components > Cloud Content
Turn off all Windows spotlight features: enabled
Do not use diagnostic data for tailored experiences: enabled
Cortana
In the side menu, this one's back at the top under Computer Configuration. You're gonna want to go to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Search
Allow Cortana: disabled
Don't search the web or display web results in Search: enabled
News and Interests
In the side menu go to Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > News and interests.
Enable news and interests on the taskbar: disabled
Microsoft Account Login Nudges
When you don't use a Microsoft account they'll nudge you repeatedly to sign in so you can "get the most out of your experience" *gag*. The group policy for turning that off has a note that suggests it might not work with Windows 11 though (implicitly), so you can close the group policy editor window now and for this last one let's just open up the regular settings.
Go to System > Notifications > Additional settings, then uncheck all the boxes. And there ya go! (✿◠‿◠)ﾉ u are done.
Group policies are kind of a rabbit hole so while there is a lot more you could change or read into, for your own sanity's sake I would advise against it and say call it a day lol
i also highly highly recommend checking out @zb1net and @zb1work which are networks for zb1 ccs! i'm ngl i do most of my reblogging from their hashtags #zb1net and #zb1work, and also #zb1 fanart!
