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Solid life advice from Sue the T. Rex.
I would love to hear the mini essay about the Beatles success through the lens of music theory if you’re up to it sometime! Your rec post was delightful and I’d happily read more of your Beatles thoughts :)
YOU WILL REGRET THIIIIIS
OKAY SO
Cultural Background
I mentioned this briefly in that other post, but a lot of Western musical genres birthed around the early 20th century have this in common: cover songs. It would be decades before every household had a record player. Gramophones were expensive. Most people heard music in dance halls, or maybe on the wireless, but the wireless mostly played classical music. So, live bands in music halls had to be able to play anything the audience requested, because that was how people got to listen to their fave songs
(Quick side note - jazz as a genre can still do this to this day. Put two jazz musicians who've never met into a room and ask them to play a jazz song that doesn't belong to either, and 99% of the time they can. It's still a popular convention to create jazz covers of contemporary hits. A very cool element of the genre.)
As baby teenagers, the Beatles formed (as the Quarrymen, among other names) in the late 1950s, and they trained in music halls in Hamburg, Germany in 1960, at a point George Harrison was still too young to legally be there (he lied about his age to immigration). They learned their trade by playing 7 to 8 hour sets in which they therefore had to play EVERYTHING. R&B, jazz, ballads, rock and roll, music hall, vaudeville, pop, musical theatre... all of it. This meant two things:
They learned an absolute kaleidoscope of genres that they later drew from when composing their own music; none of them had any formal training, it all came from this time; and
This was where they first learned that they could alter cover versions to create their own sound (e.g. changing the chords, adding solos, etc), which let them work out how to be influenced by, rather than copying or taking.
And this sets the stage for the defining trait of the Beatles as musicians: they were experimental, and intuitive, and fascinated by other musical traditions and philosophies, and they loved to combine these threads into creating incredibly varied songs that were still theirs. You can see this in a lot of their later work: Your Mother Should Know is a pure music hall song, and Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite is vaudeville with Victorian funfair organs and circus ring drums; and yet, both sound like Beatles songs, still.
BUT ALSO let's take a quick look at the absolute bullshit classical music was pulling during this time
A Brief Musical Interlude
So lets talk keys and chords.
A defining trait of Western musical construction is the complexity and versatility of its harmonies - keys and chords. Chords are basically colour palettes of notes that go together well without clashing, which Western music likes to place beneath a melody to change the feel of the piece and to drive it along. A "discord" is literally a note that doesn't fit in the chord, like a clashing colour
But, chords like to self-group into patterns that we all instinctively recognise; when does the music sound happy? Sad? Triumphant, intense, relaxed? Western composers have been using these tricks for centuries, and that brings us nicely to the last piece that will fill in the frame of this jigsaw so we can focus on what you all REALLY came for, which is to hear me wax lyrical about Tomorrow Never Knows at the end of this post: and that piece is "classical music in the early 20th century."
Because, up until this point, most Westerners were familiar with two very broad genres: classical music, played by orchestras and on the wireless and still very much in dance halls and theatres and the like; and the relatively new "popular" music, still nascent, still ill-defined, influenced by other less recognisable (to a white audience) forms but still very simple.
And at this point, particularly in the 40s and 50s, classical composers suddenly decide that chords are BORING, guys, even BEETHOVEN AND THAT were using them AGES ago, we should REDEFINE MUSIC and start on a project to dismantle the chord system. Anything can be music, they say! Let's push the boundaries! Let's make something new!
(I can only assume this was the influence of the War.)
After a while, composers even started claiming that literally any sound could therefore be defined as music, and started scraping sandpaper together and throwing ping pong balls at piano strings and that. All very artsy, to be sure, but not exactly a pleasant listen. Anyway, audiences in their droves went "Well that's disgusting," and suddenly an ENORMOUS rift opened up between musicians and music lovers.
And what was waiting in the wings to gather these lost listeners unto its burgeoning and chord-loving bosom?
Pop music.
Ok, so I was watching this live performance of "Star Treatment" (killer performance too, definitely worth watching the whole thing) from 2023...
And at about 3:58, there's a bit of a lyric change. At the line "baby, that isn't how it looked tonight", instead of "baby", he sings what sounds like "mon chern" (with a heavy emphasis on the n's in both syllables).
Now, I don't speak French, but to me this seems suspiciously like the term of endearment "mon cher", literally translating to "my dear". However. This is explicitly the male version of the term, directed at a boy or man, and almost always used to denote a very close relationship, often (but not always) romantic in nature. And to me, the original context of "baby" in the song heavily implies romantic connotations. (I'll have to link the Milex "Star Treatment" theory posts I've seen in an edit, can't find them rn)
From my (very brief) research, it's not a term that French people throw around casually. Which, yes, I know Alex Turner is thoroughly English, but he's performed French songs before (e.g. Les Cactus) and his current girlfriend Louise Verneuil is French, so I'm not sure this could be entirely attributed to cultural ignorance.
Admittedly, the pronunciation is kind of throwing me off, especially the hard "-ern" sound at the end. (Most of the audio I've heard is more of an "eh" sound.) But there's no mistaking it for the feminine version, "ma cherie", and I can't think of any other words in French it might be mistaken for - maybe "mon coeur" (my heart), but that has a hard "c" at the beginning so it seems unlikely. It doesn't sound like anything I know in English, either (lol).
Anyways, if there are any French people willing to chime in, either on the audio or any language/cultural implications, please let me know! Very interested to hear others' opinions on this.
Edit: sources below (i forgor)
This is an interesting question. I would say that in France, those sorts of "pet names" are mainly quite strong, and therefore, they aren't
Just a small OOC post for everyone and anyone who may someday rp as France or use him in a fanfiction. An error I often see is a misuse of “
Even if you don't speak any French at all you are likely to know the words cher and chérie - but beware, because their use in modern France
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/mon-cher-ami-mon-cher-mon-ch%C3%A9ri.2494289/
I think he’s saying Můnchen, as in Munich. Nice thought though!
Ah, that would make more sense, especially with the English accent on the second syllable. Oh well 😔
Ok, so I was watching this live performance of "Star Treatment" (killer performance too, definitely worth watching the whole thing) from 2023...
And at about 3:58, there's a bit of a lyric change. At the line "baby, that isn't how it looked tonight", instead of "baby", he sings what sounds like "mon chern" (with a heavy emphasis on the n's in both syllables).
Now, I don't speak French, but to me this seems suspiciously like the term of endearment "mon cher", literally translating to "my dear". However. This is explicitly the male version of the term, directed at a boy or man, and almost always used to denote a very close relationship, often (but not always) romantic in nature. And to me, the original context of "baby" in the song heavily implies romantic connotations. (I'll have to link the Milex "Star Treatment" theory posts I've seen in an edit, can't find them rn)
From my (very brief) research, it's not a term that French people throw around casually. Which, yes, I know Alex Turner is thoroughly English, but he's performed French songs before (e.g. Les Cactus) and his current girlfriend Louise Verneuil is French, so I'm not sure this could be entirely attributed to cultural ignorance.
Admittedly, the pronunciation is kind of throwing me off, especially the hard "-ern" sound at the end. (Most of the audio I've heard is more of an "eh" sound.) But there's no mistaking it for the feminine version, "ma cherie", and I can't think of any other words in French it might be mistaken for - maybe "mon coeur" (my heart), but that has a hard "c" at the beginning so it seems unlikely. It doesn't sound like anything I know in English, either (lol).
Anyways, if there are any French people willing to chime in, either on the audio or any language/cultural implications, please let me know! Very interested to hear others' opinions on this.
Edit: sources below (i forgor)
This is an interesting question. I would say that in France, those sorts of "pet names" are mainly quite strong, and therefore, they aren't
Just a small OOC post for everyone and anyone who may someday rp as France or use him in a fanfiction. An error I often see is a misuse of “
Even if you don't speak any French at all you are likely to know the words cher and chérie - but beware, because their use in modern France
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/mon-cher-ami-mon-cher-mon-ch%C3%A9ri.2494289/
so many misguided metaphors around violence and desire. if the open maw of a panting beast fills you with the want to be devoured, that does not make you prey. while the rabbit trembles in fear, its deepest desire is to run. evolution demands it. in fact, the desire to be eaten does not make you any small animal at all.
it makes you a fruit.
"my life isn't a crime, I'm not one of those people -"
"you sure? new parameters for Those People just dropped. check again."
And if you truly cannot imagine this, if you're convinced that it will never happen to you, consider this one thing.
Would you want scammers to know the state of your loved one's dementia?
Oh. Shit.
opens my jaw real wide and does this to u
ok so
everyone knows about this meme, right?
but does anyone else know the woman who made the food? no? time to educate!
This is “Mother Mary”, the owner of Blackberry’s mother.
She made all the cakes for the restaurant while it was open. Chef Gordon Ramsay tried her red velvet cake, and spoke this meme-able line:
He then called Mary over, complimented her food, and gave her a peck on the cheek.
Look how happy she was to hear that!!!
anyways, I hope she has been able to continue her love for baking since the restaurant closed down.
For these who don’t know: The restaurant she worked at closed down but she left before that and opened her own bakery, that’s apparently very successful!
when creative partnerships are more intimate than a marriage and the break up is worse than a divorce
did you know that you can increase the quality of your quesadilla by adding seasoning
did you know that you can decrease the quality of your quesadilla by making a tumblr post while it's cooking and burning it
They should just bite the bullet and make a female James Bond. Hot, athletic, suave. She wears tuxedos with a somewhat feminine cut, drinks vodka martinis, drives sports cars, and goes by "James", because why not.
Also, because this is incredibly important to Bond for some reason, she needs to be an incredibly predatory, womanizing lesbian. Some perfectly happy married straight woman needs to become gay by the end of the movie.
We live in the future, and we can admit that all of the cool things that a Male James Bond can do are things a Female James Bond can do. But at all costs, we need to avoid making this thing feel "woke" of self-aware. If Female Bond is not exactly as toxic and awesome as any of the male ones, we will have failed, and might as well be making another franchise.
have you guys ever seen a crocodile with its fingies out
aw i found the sequel!! ;U;
A actual fucking hero dude
I’m tempted to say, “Not all heroes wear capes,” but I get the impression this Fine Fellow probably owns more than one.
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if you like a character long enough you begin to lose the plot a little. just made my nonbinary wizard lactose intolerant and allergic to some sunscreens. okay
this is not losing the plot, this is how well one should know one’s character. i dont care if they live on the ninth moon of the seventh planet in the Falalalala system. i want to feel that they’re a trader joes shopper at heart