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I think there’s a really unfortunate trend in people’s thinking that like, belonging to a marginalized or oppressed group makes you an ethically better person (either generally or individually) and like that sort of moralism is really unhelpful to any discussion and also doesn’t track into reality. It also results in like, someone’s status as an oppressed person being revoked by their individual moral failings, which obviously makes no actual sense
The social conditions which lead to an increase in prostitution, astoundingly, are not actually female enpowerment; they’re widespread poverty and exploitation. The increase in prostitution in Greece since the financial crisis is not actually because the women have been empowered by IMF/World Bank. The high rates of prostitution in refugee camps are not, astoundingly, because refugee camps are utopian bastions of gender equality. Invading armies typically do not arrive as liberators, so rather than explainig the growth of the sex trade in the wake of invasions of armies like those of the US or Japan as an act of genuine liberation, it makes more sense to seek other explanations.
One clue might be the fact that higher levels of prostitution are typically accompanied by higher levels of alcoholism, addiction, authoritarian political tendencies, crime, early death, unemployment, poverty, debt, and imprisonment. If this is caused by gender equality and womens’ liberation, then this form of womens’ liberation is the greatest enemy of people everywhere.
Nikolas Cruz "talked about killing our parents, our friends, boyfriends and girlfriends," said Ariana Lopez.
Lopez, who hid in one of the school’s closets to escape the shooting Wednesday, said Cruz would act violently toward his ex-girlfriend, as well as Lopez and her friends.
“He talked about killing our parents, our friends, boyfriends and girlfriends,” Lopez said. “He would hit [his ex-girlfriend], he would threaten her, he would threaten her family and her friends, for talking to other guys.”
De Wallen, the infamous red light district in Amsterdam, Holland, is under threat. Many of its window brothels, in which women are displayed like carcasses for the entertainment of sex tourists, are closing down. Most legal street prostitution zones across the country have closed, and soon they will all cease operation.
A number of politicians and law enforcers are now accepting that legalised prostitution has been an unmitigated disaster. There is currently a proposed law being considered by the Dutch Senate which, if passed, would result in punters being criminalised if they pay for sex with a trafficked, pimped or otherwise coerced woman.
These changes are the result of a vibrant sex trade abolitionist movement emerging in Holland.
The Dutch legalised their brothel industry in the year 2000. The government promised that this would result in safety for the women, and an end to trafficking. It claimed that everything would be above board, safe and clean. The opposite happened. Sex tourism is now a major industry, with British men being one group of Europeans visiting the city to pay for sex. A number of punters I have interviewed told me that they wouldn’t have dreamt of using prostituted women back home, but that being in Holland gave them permission to do it.
The illegal and unlicensed sex trade has boomed under legalisation, trafficking of women has risen dramatically, demand is on the rise and the women are certainly no safer than they were when pimping was illegal.
I have been visiting Holland over the course of 15 years, researching the consequences of legalisation.I have interviewed sex buyers (including one who told me he first paid for sex when he was 12 years old), women in brothels, pimps and pro-legalisation lobbyists that make a profit off the backs of prostituted women.
Xaviera Hollander is a big part of the propaganda machine that promotes the notion that prostituted women under legalisation are having a great time. Hollander is known for her memoir, The Happy Hooker: My Own Story, which sold by the millions. I visited her at her home in Amsterdam, to ask if she thinks the women are happy under legalisation. She admits to me that trafficking is on the rise, and that legalisation is far from effective in removing criminality from the sex trade. Coming from a former pimp, this is quite something.
There are large numbers of tour guides offering tours around Amsterdam’s red light areas. I took one of these tours last year, and was told that legalisation is a perfect model, that the women are safe and happy and the public accept the window brothels as part of the architecture. I asked the guide where he got his information from, and he told me that the Prostitution Information Centre (PIC) provide, for a fee, information for all of the tour companies. The PIC is run as a business by women who claim to be “sex workers”. In fact they appear to be nothing of the kind, being a company charging for this advice and therefore profiting from prostitution.
What once looked like a revolutionary approach to prostitution is now clearly seen as a disaster, by all except those who seek to make a profit from prostitution.
Jolanda Boer is a senior public prosecutor specialising in human trafficking. Over the past decade Boer has dealt with more than 100 such cases in Amsterdam. “There have been cases where the girl has been raped by their pimps and threatened into working behind the windows. The women are not in a position to freely tell people when something is going wrong. But of course they’re smiling because if you don’t you’re not going to get a client,” says Boer.
On Saturday I spoke to a packed room about my book on the global sex trade. The event was held in the red light district, in a building that had previously been a Chinese massage parlour offering “happy endings”. I had expected some kind of protest, or infiltration by the pro-prostitution lobby. But every person in the room was there because they recognised that prostitution is a human rights abuse, harmful to the women involved, and that legalisation has been disastrous.
The following day I was in Den Haag, home of the Dutch parliament, launching my book in front of dozens of concerned citizens, all of whom have had enough of Holland being held up as a perfect model in dealing with prostitution. After the launch, dozens of us marched along the local red light district, holding up banners and placards with slogans such as “Shut down the sex trade” and “Enough is enough”. It was the first ever public demonstration against legal brothels.
The Dutch empire is crumbling. Over one-third of all window brothels have closed, and more will soon lose their licences. A group of 10 Hungarian traffickers are currently on trial in Den Haag, and much of the reporting of the trial links trafficking of women to the legalised regime. There is still a long way to go, but now that feminists are daring to speak out against the disastrous Dutch model of legalisation, there is no going back.
why are people who are so rabidly obsessed with the idea of “femphobia” (as in the oppression of femininity) only able to give “women can wear pants but men can’t wear dresses” as examples of this oppression. Like I’m begging these people to please for the love of god read some feminist theory on gender enforcement and also open a single history book for once in their lives, or hell even just talk to a woman slightly older than them.
Women literally fought, lost their jobs, went to prison, and faced violence in order to wear practical clothing and shoes and be allowed to exist in public without following a very strict dress code (that we are STILL fighting to this very day, and are STILL required to adhere to in many places). Like, it literally wasn’t that long ago when women were not allowed to wear pants, we actually had to fight to do that.
It goes deeper than that.
Femphobia is fathers beating their effeminate sons for nor being manly enough.
Femphobia is men being afraid of crying and instead taking their pain out on others in the form of anger.
Femphobia is minimizing a girl’s pain because it’s not as valid a man’s.
Femphobia is sexism and toxic masculinity.
Femphobia is parents throwing their gays sons out onto the street.
Femphobia is anytime a man does anything considered “not manly” because how dare he?
Femphobia leads to life long trauma, and at times, death.
People see feminity as inferior. Women were seen at one point is deformed men.
Femininity is part of sexism, homophobia, and transphobia. It’s a realty all feminine people face regardless of their gender. It’s not going away any time soon.
no offense but you’re an idiot and not a single one of these is “femphobia”. Literally every single thing you listed is misogyny and homophobia.
Men don’t hate their gay sons for being feminine, they hate them because they’re homophobes.
Men don’t beat their effeminate sons because of “femphobia” but because they are homophobes who believe that feminine behavior in boys leads to growing up to be gay, and want to stop their sons from being gay.
Men aren’t afraid to cry because of “femphobia”, and they sure as hell don’t become aggressive and harm women because they are afraid of being feminine. Men are conditioned to not show weakness and be aggressive towards women in order to control women and maintain male supremacy. Men who stray from hard line gender roles are seen as a threat to male domination and punished.
Women’s pain isn’t minimized and ignored because of a hatred of femininity, omfg. Men don’t care about women’s pain because they are misogynists. It isn’t “feminine people” who’s pain and symptoms are overlooked or told it’s all in their head, it’s women, all kinds of women.
The fact that women have been considered less than men, or deformed men, is sexism and has not a single thing to do with “femphobia”. However “feminine” activities were forced on to women because we were considered less than men, and therefor not capable to think or do what men could do.
Women are not oppressed because femininity is seen as inferior. Femininity literally exists to condition and control women for an inferior role and to maintain male supremacy. That is what gender is, a tool used to neutralize and enforce sexism.
Everything that is considered feminine is literally everything that is pushed on to women to oppress us and keep us complacent in our oppression and make sure we are easily able to be dominated and unable to fight back. This is literally feminism 101 and I can’t believe in this day and age, with all the access to information and books and decades of feminist theory available, this basic ass discussion still needs to be had and people continue to insist their misogynist ideas are feminism without knowing a damn thing about feminism.
The fact that you started you’re argument attacking me proves to me that you’re incapable of being mature and having decent conversion. Goodbye!
nah buddy, it’s just that you’re leaving extremely stupid comments on my post, that you yourself probably are fully aware are completely false and make no sense, that essentially boils down to blaming women & gay men for our own oppression, while also positioning gnc women as not real women but as misogynist oppressors, and men as victims of misogyny.
Again ad hominem. Where was I blaming gay people for their own oppression?!
Homophobia has a relationship with misogyny. Why do people hate gay men? What is one of the arguments against gay men? Trans women? They’re going against gender roles and expectations. Gay men are seen as feminine. Trans women are seen as feminine men. I never said they experience misogyny. You’re putting words in my mouth.
Femininity isn’t exclusive to women. Society shows again and again that it see feminine things as inferior. That fear and hatred has been labeled femphobia.
That was my argument.
You attacked me as a person in the beginning. I never attacked you in my reply. I showed you decency. However it seems you are incapable of showing any yourself.
the relationship of homophobia with misogynist is not at all even close to what you think it is. Going against gender roles =/= femphobia. The oppression gnc men deal with is not, and has never been, “femphobia”. The push back they receive is in order to protect male dominance by strrct enforcement of gender (or gender roles as you may call them), the reason being is that gender in an of itself is a tool of male supremacy, and if men stray from it, their violent control of women may start to slip. It’s an ideology that has to be violently enforced in order to maintain.
Feminine things are infirior, hence why they are labeled feminine. Femininity isn’t natural, the entire concept of femininity is literally man made. Femininity is the role that is forced on to women, everything that is considered inferior is feminine. Weakness, frailty, being small, quite, pretty, pleasing, are all feminine for a reason. Being strong, big, loud, opinionated, independent, are all masculine for a reason. None of it is natural, it is all a man made ideology meant to make it easier to oppress and control women. This is again, the absolute most basic feminism 101, if you don’t understand this then you don’t understand feminism at all.
To say that simply being feminine in and of itself is the source of oppression, is saying that if women and gay men want to stop being oppressed then we should just not be feminine anymore, as well as that masculine or butch women are not oppressed, but are the oppressors. It makes no damn sense if you think about for even a split second.
Maybe stop trying to pass misogyny off as some sort of feminism, especially if you have not even the most basic understanding of what feminism is, and stop trying to neutralize the oppression of women, then maybe feminists will stop being angry at your dumb comments
why are people who are so rabidly obsessed with the idea of “femphobia” (as in the oppression of femininity) only able to give “women can wear pants but men can’t wear dresses” as examples of this oppression. Like I’m begging these people to please for the love of god read some feminist theory on gender enforcement and also open a single history book for once in their lives, or hell even just talk to a woman slightly older than them.
Women literally fought, lost their jobs, went to prison, and faced violence in order to wear practical clothing and shoes and be allowed to exist in public without following a very strict dress code (that we are STILL fighting to this very day, and are STILL required to adhere to in many places). Like, it literally wasn’t that long ago when women were not allowed to wear pants, we actually had to fight to do that.
It goes deeper than that.
Femphobia is fathers beating their effeminate sons for nor being manly enough.
Femphobia is men being afraid of crying and instead taking their pain out on others in the form of anger.
Femphobia is minimizing a girl’s pain because it’s not as valid a man’s.
Femphobia is sexism and toxic masculinity.
Femphobia is parents throwing their gays sons out onto the street.
Femphobia is anytime a man does anything considered “not manly” because how dare he?
Femphobia leads to life long trauma, and at times, death.
People see feminity as inferior. Women were seen at one point is deformed men.
Femininity is part of sexism, homophobia, and transphobia. It’s a realty all feminine people face regardless of their gender. It’s not going away any time soon.
no offense but you’re an idiot and not a single one of these is “femphobia”. Literally every single thing you listed is misogyny and homophobia.
Men don’t hate their gay sons for being feminine, they hate them because they’re homophobes.
Men don’t beat their effeminate sons because of “femphobia” but because they are homophobes who believe that feminine behavior in boys leads to growing up to be gay, and want to stop their sons from being gay.
Men aren’t afraid to cry because of “femphobia”, and they sure as hell don’t become aggressive and harm women because they are afraid of being feminine. Men are conditioned to not show weakness and be aggressive towards women in order to control women and maintain male supremacy. Men who stray from hard line gender roles are seen as a threat to male domination and punished.
Women’s pain isn’t minimized and ignored because of a hatred of femininity, omfg. Men don’t care about women’s pain because they are misogynists. It isn’t “feminine people” who’s pain and symptoms are overlooked or told it’s all in their head, it’s women, all kinds of women.
The fact that women have been considered less than men, or deformed men, is sexism and has not a single thing to do with “femphobia”. However “feminine” activities were forced on to women because we were considered less than men, and therefor not capable to think or do what men could do.
Women are not oppressed because femininity is seen as inferior. Femininity literally exists to condition and control women for an inferior role and to maintain male supremacy. That is what gender is, a tool used to neutralize and enforce sexism.
Everything that is considered feminine is literally everything that is pushed on to women to oppress us and keep us complacent in our oppression and make sure we are easily able to be dominated and unable to fight back. This is literally feminism 101 and I can’t believe in this day and age, with all the access to information and books and decades of feminist theory available, this basic ass discussion still needs to be had and people continue to insist their misogynist ideas are feminism without knowing a damn thing about feminism.
The fact that you started you’re argument attacking me proves to me that you’re incapable of being mature and having decent conversion. Goodbye!
nah buddy, it’s just that you’re leaving extremely stupid comments on my post, that you yourself probably are fully aware are completely false and make no sense, that essentially boils down to blaming women & gay men for our own oppression, while also positioning gnc women as not real women but as misogynist oppressors, and men as victims of misogyny.
why are people who are so rabidly obsessed with the idea of “femphobia” (as in the oppression of femininity) only able to give “women can wear pants but men can’t wear dresses” as examples of this oppression. Like I’m begging these people to please for the love of god read some feminist theory on gender enforcement and also open a single history book for once in their lives, or hell even just talk to a woman slightly older than them.
Women literally fought, lost their jobs, went to prison, and faced violence in order to wear practical clothing and shoes and be allowed to exist in public without following a very strict dress code (that we are STILL fighting to this very day, and are STILL required to adhere to in many places). Like, it literally wasn’t that long ago when women were not allowed to wear pants, we actually had to fight to do that.
It goes deeper than that.
Femphobia is fathers beating their effeminate sons for nor being manly enough.
Femphobia is men being afraid of crying and instead taking their pain out on others in the form of anger.
Femphobia is minimizing a girl’s pain because it’s not as valid a man’s.
Femphobia is sexism and toxic masculinity.
Femphobia is parents throwing their gays sons out onto the street.
Femphobia is anytime a man does anything considered “not manly” because how dare he?
Femphobia leads to life long trauma, and at times, death.
People see feminity as inferior. Women were seen at one point is deformed men.
Femininity is part of sexism, homophobia, and transphobia. It’s a realty all feminine people face regardless of their gender. It’s not going away any time soon.
no offense but you’re an idiot and not a single one of these is “femphobia”. Literally every single thing you listed is misogyny and homophobia.
Men don’t hate their gay sons for being feminine, they hate them because they’re homophobes.
Men don’t beat their effeminate sons because of “femphobia” but because they are homophobes who believe that feminine behavior in boys leads to growing up to be gay, and want to stop their sons from being gay.
Men aren’t afraid to cry because of “femphobia”, and they sure as hell don’t become aggressive and harm women because they are afraid of being feminine. Men are conditioned to not show weakness and be aggressive towards women in order to control women and maintain male supremacy. Men who stray from hard line gender roles are seen as a threat to male domination and punished.
Women’s pain isn’t minimized and ignored because of a hatred of femininity, omfg. Men don’t care about women’s pain because they are misogynists. It isn’t “feminine people” who’s pain and symptoms are overlooked or told it’s all in their head, it’s women, all kinds of women.
The fact that women have been considered less than men, or deformed men, is sexism and has not a single thing to do with “femphobia”. However “feminine” activities were forced on to women because we were considered less than men, and therefor not capable to think or do what men could do.
Women are not oppressed because femininity is seen as inferior. Femininity literally exists to condition and control women for an inferior role and to maintain male supremacy. That is what gender is, a tool used to neutralize and enforce sexism.
Everything that is considered feminine is literally everything that is pushed on to women to oppress us and keep us complacent in our oppression and make sure we are easily able to be dominated and unable to fight back. This is literally feminism 101 and I can’t believe in this day and age, with all the access to information and books and decades of feminist theory available, this basic ass discussion still needs to be had and people continue to insist their misogynist ideas are feminism without knowing a damn thing about feminism.
Men often react to women’s words—speaking and writing—as if they were acts of violence; sometimes men react to women’s words with violence. So we lower our voices. Women whisper. Women apologize. Women shut up. Women trivialize what we know. Women shrink. Women pull back. Most women have experienced enough dominance from men—control, violence, insult, contempt—that no threat seems empty.
Andrea Dworkin, Intercourse
nothing has changed in 30 years
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the florida school shooter was a member of a white nationalist group and was abusive to his ex-girlfriend (and it seems that him wanting to harm his ex gf was most likely the reason for the shooting), but as usual all liberals want to talk about is gun control, and all right wingers want to talk about is mental illness.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s fine and all to talk about gun control, violent men should never have access to guns, or any weapons, but ultimately the issue with all of these cases, the one factor that links all recent mass murders, and nearly all mass murders, is male violence, specifically male violence against women. Pretty much most mass murderers have a history of violence against women (which for *some reason* is never mentioned as much as violence against animals is, even though many, probably most, mass murderers actually don’t have a history of animal abuse), and could have been stopped beforehand if violence against women was taken seriously, if women were believed and men were punished. This isn’t solely an issue of guns, if it was, women would be committing mass murders too, and they would be committing them as much as men.
Even if you completely stop people from being able to buy guns (which I don’t think would make a huge difference unfortunately, considering there are more guns than people in america already, and it seems pretty impossible to seize all those guns) or you somehow completely got rid of all guns, the underlying problem would still remain. It may become a ‘smaller’ problem, as in less mass deaths, but these men would still be violent and still be terrorizing and killing women (or black people, or gay people, or whoever their target may be).
So what I’m saying is, yes we absolutely should talk about gun violence, but that shouldn’t be the be-all-end-all, or even the centre or focus of the conversation.
people are so god damn stupid, my god. I want to yell at every single person that commented on that post for how stupid they are. If you don’t like sports, watch sports, know a single damn thing about sports, and are not a woman who plays sports, then just stop trying to advocate for something that sounds good to only other people who also don’t know a thing, without considering, or even knowing, the actual consequences.
call me ignorant but i genuinely don’t understand why sports have to be split up by gender.
@ everyone in the notes talking about physical performance: if that were the case, then sports would be divided by physical performance. that’s a thing you can measure. that’s a thing that varies by individual. a weak man and a strong man would be an unfair fight in boxing/wrestling/MMA, which is why they divide those sports up into weight groups based on physical performance. but they also further segregate them based on gender. chess is segregated by gender for no reason but sexism. if it’s actually about skill and physical ability, then measure those and separate people by those metrics. don’t do some bullshit gender segregation and pretend like men and women are inherently on different levels no matter their individual abilities.
This isn’t a new idea; it’s a second- and early third-wave feminist one.
I mean, yeah, it’s true there are unnecessarily gender-segregated sports and competitions of all varieties.
The problem is sports where physical strength and speed are unconditional determinants of success. Humans do in fact develop dimorphic secondary sexual characteristics, including stark differences in muscle mass, among various more aspects applicable to sporting prowess (for example, lung capacity).
In elite training, even minuscule differences in physiology produce a sizable impact. Men and women are different enough, physiologically speaking, that individual ability hardly matters when paired in competition. While the difference isn’t quite what I’d call “inherent,” it’s undeniable. The hormones behind such effects and compounds that promote said hormones’ production are banned as performance enhancers for a reason.
For boxing etc. where weight classes already exist, it’s vital to note women and men of similar size aren’t comparable in terms of muscle mass or strength. Training doesn’t do much to bridge that gap. (Unless you’re looking at an elite female boxer versus some untrained dude, I guess.)
Top competitors in most realms of sport, as per what the above posters are suggesting, would end up exclusively or almost exclusively men. Women wouldn’t be able to qualify as Olympians.
For a quick and easy example, these tables below (via Wikipedia) show men’s and women’s mile records:
You’ll see women’s record holder Svetlana Masterkova is significantly slower than Asbel Kiprop, man #25. In fact, Masterkova’s world record is bested on a regular basis by high school boys who’ve had fairly limited training.
Even figure skating’s jump-derived scoring would need to be overhauled, or again women wouldn’t survive as top competitors.
Let’s say a handful of professional soccer teams reach out to include one or two women. Where strategy and teamwork are concerned, each individual player isn’t required to be as fast as possible, kick at maximum force, et cetera. However, most women who play at present on top women’s teams are going to be SOL. The odds that those who remain on “non-gendered” teams are derided, harassed and end up relegated to an almost mascot-type role are 1/1.
Eliminating women’s athletics means eliminating women from athletics.
For most sports, your Divisions 1–3 will end up primarily if not entirely men’s domain. Divs 4–10, assuming such exist, will begin to include a greater proportion of women. Divs 18–20, finally, may be all women. Who’s funding Division 20? Who’s funding Division 4, even? Who’s its audience? Where is women’s prestige? Is that supposed to be irrelevant?
The overall effect is a raised, if not insurmountable, barrier to entry. Fewer women will be involved in competitive sports to start. You’re looking, from there, at a knock-on effect on young girls, their interests, their world-views.
It needs to be clarified, too, that competitive chess isn’t gender-segregated in the sense implied above. The WCC is open to women and men; women can participate in it and in WWCC games. Various levels of women-only tournaments exist to serve as outreach programs to get more girls and women interested in what is considered by society to be a male pursuit, and as voluntary reprieves from sexism in competitive chess. Calling women’s tournaments themselves sexist is grossly disingenuous.
The World Chess Championship’s open model would be acceptable, I think, even wise, to apply more broadly to sports. Women who want to compete against men should get that opportunity. Trans competitors whose hormonal states and/or genders don’t conform to traditional dimorphic standards should be able to participate in sports and not be misgendered or required to abstain from events early on in HRT. And in situations where no girls or women’s teams exist, for example in (American) football, those who want to play shouldn’t be barred.
Eliminating women’s sports, though, is backwards and phony egalitarianism.
you can tell that op and 9/10 commenters on this post have never played sports beyond elementary school gym class and have never spoken to a female athlete in their lives, also not surprising that all those in favor are males who have no actual care invested in any of this, but are just looking for SJ brownie points, hence calling women’s leagues sexist, rather than like, hard fought rights that female athletes have poured blood sweat and tears for and still to this day are fighting to keep alive.
Desegregating sports is the very last thing any female athlete would ever want because it would completely destroy women’s rights to play sports. Instead of destroying women’s leagues for some laughable and extremely misguided attempt at “inclusion” and “equality”, just support women’s sports the same as mens and let women play the way we want to play, and let us play in men’s leagues if we want. It’s not that hard.
Police say the 19-year-old Washington state man later used the dead teen's thumb to unlock her phone and post on her Snapchat to make it appear as if she had run away.
This guy needs to be put in all sorts of torture. I have never read a more disgusting account. This article is seriously hard to read and triggering so be warned. What a fucking piece of shit
After Noceda snorted a “large line of Percs” (painkillers), Varela gave the 18-year-old a “dab” of liquid THC and she immediately collapsed and fell unconscious, Varela and other witnesses told police.
But instead of calling for help, Varela raped the teen, the police report states. Friends of Varela said he told them he “did not know if she was alive or dead when he ejaculated into her.”
The 19-year-old took several photos of Noceda naked, unconscious, and blue-lipped on his bed and texted them to his friends in a group chat, Varela’s friend Jayson Pepito said.
“LOL I think she od’d, still breathing,” the text read. “I’m smashing her to pass the time.”
Pepito said Varela boasted about the act, saying, “She died having sex with me.”
Afterward, Varela thought Noceda might still be breathing and considered taking her to a hospital, but told friends he was “too tired to do so” and went to bed. When he woke up the following morning, she was dead, the report said. Varela then showed his roommate and another person Noceda’s body, which his roommate recalled as being stiff with foam around her lips. After hearing about what happened, they told Varela to call the police.
Instead, the teen closed and locked his bedroom door and went to work a double shift at Dairy Queen. Varela later told authorities that he didn’t call 911 after Noceda fell unconscious out of fear of law enforcement.
During his work shift, Varela bragged about the party and having sex with Noceda, and was acting strangely and saying he needed to bury a body, his coworkers told police.
Varela detailed how he had broken Noceda’s legs to stuff her body into a black crate, which he planned to fill with onions and bury, a coworker said.
this is horrifying, but what really strikes me about this is that this man felt so comfortable raping and murdering a woman, that he publicly bragged about it to his friends and co-workers, and that he sent out photos to a group text, showed her dead body to his roommate and another person, and detailed to his co-workers how he was planning on getting rid of the body, and it seems only one person, his co-worker, contacted the police.
A man raped and murdered a woman, and several, perhaps dozens, of men knew it, saw it, saw her dead body, and did nothing (other than a few suggestions he call the police and tell them she overdosed). Men feel so comfortable knowing they can do anything to women and other men will support them and protect them. All these men who knew and didn’t stop him, didn’t contact the police, should all be rotting in jail too.
This kind of bullshit pisses me off. A specific group of men do something so horrific and terrible and all of a sudden the issue is turned into all men. This is no different than racism. Just because a group of people who have a single trait in common, (sex, race, color, culture, religion, nationality) does not mean that they are all the same. This is no different than saying all women want to be raped because some women have rape fantasies. You could take anything from this story and turn it against a specific group. You could turn it against Hispanic culture because apparently this guy and several of his friends are Hispanic (race/culture/color). You could turn it against all people who live in the area this happened (nationality). If they were all of a certain religion you could turn it against that religion (which is possible since this was a close group of friends). Oh, and unless Dairy Queen started only hiring men recently then, the co-workers that he mentioned this to were possibly women who also didn’t drop everything and immediately call police. Most likely because they were unsure if it was fact or a sick joke.
My point is, it is unfair to keep attacking an entire group of people (men) for something one man or a group of men did that is completely wrong and absolutely horrific. Not all men are disgusting bastards who treat women like shit and sex objects. Many men were raised right by their mothers but, you don’t hear about them because there is no reason to praise someone for doing what is expected of them.
The same as how, in America at least, you very rarely hear of people in the Middle East who are good people, making a positive impact on society, and embracing the true nature of the Muslim religion and showing love to one another. All we hear about that is “news worthy” are negative stories because, we as a society love drama. We find it interesting and a reason for us to express our opinions and act like we are important for speaking out against said drama.
That being said, I am in no way speaking out against women’s rights. I am all for women’s rights. It is amazing that groups of women get together for support and speak out against the injustices that still exist towards them. That is what is important but, male bashing has got to stop. All that does is perpetuate the lie that all men are bad. There are women who rape others. There are women who drug others for sex. (I have a female friend who, under the age of 16, was a victim of being drugged and raped by another female). There are women sex offenders. There are women who are criminals. This doesn’t mean that all women are bad and gives no one the right to hate all women because of it.
Ok, sorry for my rant. I’m done.
It’s real interesting that you can read this story and get “pissed off” about not all men bullshit instead of the horrific things this man did to this girl and the people who were complicit in it when nowhere in the god damn article or in the response above does ANYONE say ALL MEN You would think that in the god damn year of 2018 people would be smart enough to know that when we say men we mean men as a class so maybe instead of focusing on the fact that we say men you focus on the fact that SO MANY men do these things and SO MANY men are complicit in their witnessing of it and maybe turn your anger towards them so you don’t get swept up in terminology because you know you are doing something about rape culture and violence against women but no i guess it’s much easier for you to get pissed at the women who talk about it on the internet then to actually do something to change the situation. now fuck off .
“men as a class”, all men, and men (plural) implies all men whether you want to admit it or not. I AM angry about the situation but, I’m not going to be ate up and bitter about it and let it ruin my mood because there is nothing that can be done in this situation. It’s already done, the man confessed and is in custody. I agree that everyone who had knowledge of this should also be put on trial for, at the least, negligence.
Speaking out against “rape culture” doesn’t solve anything either. This is a problem that is learned behavior. Whether it be from the parents, lack of parenting, or from the media, you can’t do anything to stop it unless you want to start policing people in their own homes. The media needs to be policed better. That is something that we, as a society, can change. People are already punished for rape and harassment. Some areas and cultures in society let more of this behavior or behavior that leads up to this slide. The issues in those areas need to be addressed and usually are once the issue is known. We need to try to help people more. Help people to find a safe place to speak out about these things happening to them. Teach people that it is ok to speak up when you witness something like this. We need to get rid of the “good ole boy” or “bro code” or whatever you want to call it, type of attitude where friends think it is their duty to protect one of their own no matter what. Everyone knows that these things are wrong, they just need to understand the importance of speaking up and be offered some type of assurance either through law or a safe place to protect them from repercussions of speaking up or whistle blowing.
im not going to address all your bullshit which could not be more wrong (and btw asshole, the only people to raise alarms in this case WERE women, he told his co-worker from dairy queen, a man, who he believed due to being a man he would be ok with it, and that coworker told his girlfriend, was the one who looked in to it and told him to contact the police, as in NO men raised any alarms, and if it wasn’t for women all these men would allow this guy to get away with rape and murder. These men didn’t think this was a joke, given that several men had actually seen this girls dead body, both in pictures and in person). So yeah dude there is a problem with men when a man could rape and murder a woman and dozens of men, some that barley even knew him, would protect him. This isn’t even a rare case at all, there are always cases of groups of men, some who don’t even know each other, committing crimes against women together, such as the case when one college man convinced a group of 20 men he didn’t even know to rape women with him, without objection. There is a serious fucking problem, and it’s not an individual problem, when you can just find dozens of men eager to rape women wherever you go, without difficulty.
But I just want you to know you are 100% exactly the type of man I was referring to and you, as not just a member of the male class, but also specifically as an individual, are exactly what is wrong with men. Also given that you care more about men you don’t even know, and the image and collective ego of men more than you care about women who are raped and murdered, you aren’t much different from the men that protected this rapist, and I highly doubt you would do anything differently so fuck off you gross misogynist prick.
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Hot take: on a scale of nerd vs jock, LARPing is a more jockish activity then fantasy football.
LARPing: people going outside and being physically active, requires working as a team with people
Fantasy Football: poindexters on the computer, playing with stats
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Police say the 19-year-old Washington state man later used the dead teen's thumb to unlock her phone and post on her Snapchat to make it appear as if she had run away.
This guy needs to be put in all sorts of torture. I have never read a more disgusting account. This article is seriously hard to read and triggering so be warned. What a fucking piece of shit
After Noceda snorted a “large line of Percs” (painkillers), Varela gave the 18-year-old a “dab” of liquid THC and she immediately collapsed and fell unconscious, Varela and other witnesses told police.
But instead of calling for help, Varela raped the teen, the police report states. Friends of Varela said he told them he “did not know if she was alive or dead when he ejaculated into her.”
The 19-year-old took several photos of Noceda naked, unconscious, and blue-lipped on his bed and texted them to his friends in a group chat, Varela’s friend Jayson Pepito said.
“LOL I think she od’d, still breathing,” the text read. “I’m smashing her to pass the time.”
Pepito said Varela boasted about the act, saying, “She died having sex with me.”
Afterward, Varela thought Noceda might still be breathing and considered taking her to a hospital, but told friends he was “too tired to do so” and went to bed. When he woke up the following morning, she was dead, the report said. Varela then showed his roommate and another person Noceda’s body, which his roommate recalled as being stiff with foam around her lips. After hearing about what happened, they told Varela to call the police.
Instead, the teen closed and locked his bedroom door and went to work a double shift at Dairy Queen. Varela later told authorities that he didn’t call 911 after Noceda fell unconscious out of fear of law enforcement.
During his work shift, Varela bragged about the party and having sex with Noceda, and was acting strangely and saying he needed to bury a body, his coworkers told police.
Varela detailed how he had broken Noceda’s legs to stuff her body into a black crate, which he planned to fill with onions and bury, a coworker said.
this is horrifying, but what really strikes me about this is that this man felt so comfortable raping and murdering a woman, that he publicly bragged about it to his friends and co-workers, and that he sent out photos to a group text, showed her dead body to his roommate and another person, and detailed to his co-workers how he was planning on getting rid of the body, and it seems only one person, his co-worker, contacted the police.
A man raped and murdered a woman, and several, perhaps dozens, of men knew it, saw it, saw her dead body, and did nothing (other than a few suggestions he call the police and tell them she overdosed). Men feel so comfortable knowing they can do anything to women and other men will support them and protect them. All these men who knew and didn’t stop him, didn’t contact the police, should all be rotting in jail too.
