I don't know what I'm doing.

[dephoraowo]

Hello everyone 😊👋. My name is dephoraowo, but you can call me Dephora or Deph for short.

This blog will mainly contain mdzs stuff. But if I'm interested in other stuff, I will be posting about them.

-My MDZS Posts-

Wei Wuxian and a List of his Fanon Tropes

Lan Wangji and a List of his Fanon Tropes

Jiang Cheng and a List of his Fanon Tropes

Just a disclaimer for everyone, whenever I post something about mdzs, I will always be talking about the novel, not any other adaption (unless I'm discussing it specifically). Also, I don't do fanon, I very much prefer to talk about canon novel, as you can see in my posts 😅 (most of the fanon stuff makes me iffy from how cringe it is).

I'm not really active in tumblr, but I will still make posts and stuff here and there sporadically.

You may send me asks, but I might take a while to respond, just letting you guys know ahead of time. But I guess that's it! You may reblog, and I am fine with interactions and whatnot. Welcome to my silly blog, and I hope you enjoy it 😊🙏.

[loudlyrottingmaplelog-moved]

you guys know that you are allowed to like characters who suck in canon right? you guys know that you don’t have to ignore the worse parts of a characters to like them right? YOU GUYS KNOW THAT LIKING A SHITTY CHARACTER AS THEY ARE DOESN’T MEAN THAT YOU CONDONE THEIR BEHAVIOUR RIGHT????? RIGHT???? YOU GUYS KNOW THAG YOU CAN JUST ENJOY FICTION RIGHT?????

[mxtxfanatic]

God, characters who have ample and power to destroy the world with their bare hands but actively choose to be good hit me like a dopamine rush, and fandom is so fucking ungrateful!!!!!

Wei Wuxian controls the resentful death. Wei Wuxian controls the resentful death in a novel where characters are slaughtering whole clans, hundreds of people strong for shits and giggles. Wei Wuxian himself was murdered along with 50 of his charges for shits and giggles. He lived on the trash dump mountain of resentful corpse TWICE!!! He was catching the swords of active cultivators when he had NO golden core. Someone shot him in the chest, and he pulled the arrow out, threw it back hard enough to KILL the shooter, and went on to live for another 3 months. He only died because his own technique backfired while he was destroying his own weapon. His death was directly caused by the corruption of every single named character in a power, and fandom acts like it’s just a “given” that these useless ass characters get to live longer than Wei Wuxian rather than a goddamn mercy. Cause if he was really the villain like mainstream fandom acted, none of your favs would be alive. None of them.

Xie Lian stepped into the crossfire of two blows meant to kill, one from a god and the other from a supreme-level ghost king. His only injury after absorbing the power from both blows was one (1) injured hand. He goes toe-to-toe with 33 ascended gods with nothing but a branch and beats their asses. He had one (1) curse collar for this fight. He goes toe-to-toe with a god and treated it as a training lesson. He went toe-to-toe with the EMPEROR OF THE GODS and holds his own for a while. He’s wearing two curse collars. He’s wearing TWO (2) curse collars for both of those!!! This man could rip through several kingdoms with his bare hands. He could probably storm the heavens themselves with his bare hands! And an army of gods—the same people who watched his kingdom be embroiled in civil war on the direction of their emperor and then cannibalized his followers to bolster their own power—would be powerless to stop him. If he was really the villain like mainstream fandom acted, none of your favs would be alive. None of them.

They are just soooooo kind to the people who fucked them over that fandom actively argues that their favs must not have done anything “that bad” for them to not have been retaliated against. That the side characters, themselves, forget that their tryna agitate a polar bear in human form. But like, that’s just being a hero: you fucked me over and I didn’t kill you because I have a moral code and the maturity not to, even though I have all the power and every right to. Like yeah, give me THAT kind of protag, not these weak ass “insecure,” “I can’t do anything by myself 🥺” “I need the approval of people who only ever ruin my life” fanon variations fandom is in love with 🙄

[halenhusky309]

Sometimes, I'm very sick of the Western version of "nuance heroes" when most heroic characters reduced to "insecure weaklings who need validations from others, especially the ones that actively fuck them over" or "no better than the villains... something something morally grey bullshit"

[mxtxfanatic]

People don’t want to admit that a lot of western stories (fandom headcanons included) are engaged in the project of “nuancing white supremacy,” in which “heroes” are people who feel empathy for genociders and serve as their protectors under some "well, they're 'my people' too!" and “villains” are people who are indifferent to the feelings, beliefs, or lives of said genociders. It’s why you have a bunch of mainstream villains that are “let’s destroy capitalism because I hate when poor people have money for food” and “let’s arm Black people globally to cause a white genocide" and "let's save the ecosystem by drowning a bunch of highly populated human cities" while all the heroes are "don't you realize this neo-nazi just needed a hug to understand that eugenics is bad?" and "Miss Israel saves a bunch of ethnically ambiguous brown children from a bomb."

At the end of the day, western media both real and fictional want people to associate ostracization with immorality and being "part of the crowd" with being a Good Citizen, which is why everyone spends a ton of money on social media bot farms, now, to manufacture the image of "everyone's on my side, so why aren't you? Is there something wrong with you? Are you mayhaps a bad person that must be Dealt With?" So mxtx protags who do not follow western conventions get fanonized to align with western idea so that western fans don't have to address the cognitive dissonance. Oh, Wei Wuxian doesn't care about the feelings of the people he hurt because they committed a genocide? That makes him morally gray! Oh, Xie Lian actively sided against his friends and other gods for putting their status above helping flesh and blood people? That means he's childishly rebelling against "The Good Guys" because deep down he wants their attention and approval!

[mxtxfanatic]

Here’s a good twitter thread and a tumblr version of it for those without twitter of all of pakhnokh’s whitewashing attempts since it become public knowledge that they were a genocide-supporting Israeli settler in occupied Palestine, information I would like to make clear was publicly available, before, and that they proudly touted until they realized that it was a bad look post-2024 and simply stopped talking about it (though it was in their public likes until the blow up happened late last week). They are also not a child holding these opinions, as their slick verbiage makes it seem like they were "mislead" by propaganda as a child into supporting an active genocide right now as a “peace-loving” married adult with children. This “peace-loving” person wanted to join the IOF. This “peace-loving” person raised on stories of the IOF shooting Palestinian children who throw stones wanted to join the IOF. This “peace-loving” person who watched the IOF shoot up mosques as tradition on Islamic holy days wanted to join the IOF. This “peace-loving” person failed to join the IOF not because their love of peace made them eventually reject the urge but because they never got called back.

They were audaciously glib in the beginning about just how monumentally reputation-ruining this reveal was as evidenced by how most of this information was just effortlessly volunteered up in their bid for sympathy because, ultimately, they do not believe that their active support for the state of Israel is wrong nor shameful. And now that they're bleeding followers and patreon supporters, their increasingly desperate attempts to publicly paint themselves as the ultimate victim while they can't even name the horrors happening to Palestine in the name of Israel as an Israeli (and that, again, they explicitly support when they claim Israel's "right to exist") come across as offensively insincere, as if we all have goldfish memories and simply can't remember every post they've made in the last week just because they delete them to try again at which combination of guilt-trippy jargon they can add to make themselves look better than, say, people who aren't actively supporting a genocide.

Anyways, Palestinians deserve more than to have their very existence tied to the "safety" of the people pretending that "peaceful coexistence" was when they could murder journalists then corral and beat the funeral attendees for daring to be a mixed-religion crowd, snipe people for approaching the apartheid fences Israel built, block worshipers from reaching their places of worship, and disappear random civilians into torture camps where they withhold the bodies of their victims from their families to "serve out their sentences" (that they were never given because Israel detains any Palestinian of any age without trial or sentencing) even after death, amongst other things more horrific than the last, without ever having to feel bad about living in homes quite literally stolen from living, breathing people on land being ethnically cleansed of a native population so old they can trace their lineage back to Jesus' birth and beyond.

Once again, if you are someone who wants to love-and-support your way into the good graces of a genocider just because they make a comic mapping their personal ethno-fascist beliefs onto someone else’s irrefutably anti-genocide fiction novel, just remember to block me back.

[coughingflowers]

After Paknokh was exposed as a Zionist Israeli, she posted two threads on X, deleting each one after when they didn’t get the response she was hoping for. Given some of her followers don’t have X and the amount of backtracking she’s done, I think it’s important to share said threads. Here is the first, I will reblog with the second thread as well.

[coughingflowers]

Here is the also now deleted but much shorter second thread

[cappucosmic]

So about this - Again, I want to be clear. As much as she talks and talks and talks, she IS a Zionist, and she subtly reveals it EVERY time she speaks.

This. This is Zionism. She makes it sound cushy, but this IS Zionism.

She does not believe in Palestinian independence. She believes Israel has a 'right' to exist (it does not), and that Palestine should be a state run by the Israeli government. What she is describing is functionally what we currently have- Palestine already has its own "government" ala the PNA. It does not solve apartheid. It IS apartheid.

What business could Palestine even possibly run, when Israel controls all of Gaza and the West Bank's borders? Israel will always be in control as long as they exist. Palestinians will continue to be ethnically cleansed until Israel is no longer a state(and no, that doesn't mean displacement; Israelis simply fear receiving what they give).

Let me paraphrase what she is describing, so you all understand:

"Separate but equal."

[jiaoji]

Well, thats a very shitty behavior

[saccharinish]

for my handful of mdzs followers: please unfollow, block and stop supporting this artist, they just got exposed for being a zionist on twitter and they’re also here on tumblr !!!

[iactuallytryingtolovemyself]

how the fuck u end up with the idea that mdzs is in anyway pro authoritarian???

how tf can u claim that lwj out of all people would be pro israli??? huh??? did we read the same book???

pakhnokh literally created 200 pages of comic for mdzs, one would think that they understood the themes of the book that they're making a comic of

how can u be so blinded by propaganda that u believe that a book about anti authority, not falling for propaganda and that the group of people u think is the big bad evil is in fact just innocent civilian???

having a crash out on twitter about it is even crazier. and then they had to play the victim as if their government isn't forcibly starving 2 million people to death???

they are mad on twitter about being called out for valid reasons while Palestinians are being shot for wanting to not starve. They are being shot for a simple bag of lentils.

do we not see the disparity here??

when mdzs said we shouldn't kill innocent people. That believing an entire people as inherently bad will only lead to catastrophe and civilians getting unjustly killed??? how can someone miss that part??? or more likely how can someone misconstrue it so badly??

Palestinians are being bombed and shot at all times. as well as being forcibly starved by the blockade the israli state made stopping any aid from reaching them.

From the river to the sea Palestine will be free

May the killings end. May Palestinians live in peace.

[celestesinsight]

Did Wei WuXian really fail at achieving the impossible and, hence, was persecuted by the world?

Fandom:

Wei WuXian’s demonic cultivation and his methods are failed experiments.

Novel:

“It seemed like that, although the cultivation world hated him on the surface, they still used the inventions that he came up with.”

- GDC, Chapter 3: Aggression—Part One, Exiled Rebels Scanlations.

“The cultivation world had a strict definition for the category of “ferocious ghosts”…The criterion was set by Wei WuXian himself, and it was probably still being used.”

- GDC, Chapter 5: Aggression—Part Three, Exiled Rebels Scanlations.

“He didn’t expect that, after so many years had passed, he was still alive in the cultivators’ conversations.”

- GDC, Chapter 6: Arrogance—Part One, Exiled Rebels Scanlations.

These are just a few instances from the early chapters of the novel. The entire story is a testament to how Wei WuXian and his inventions revolutionised the cultivation world. His influence is so profound that even 13 years after his passing, his name and his creations continue to be a part of cultivators' conversations.

Prototypes, Not Failed Experiments

Yes, his inventions are not flawless. And let’s assume he failed in accomplishing what he set out to do (though I don’t think he failed). They cannot be called failed experiments, but more like prototypes that would have been improved over time if he had survived.

What’s the difference?

Failed prototypes signify design or application flaws. They mean the underlying theory is correct, but things got weird when they put it into practice. But failed experiments mean the evidence does not support the original hypothesis. For instance, the Compass of Evil. It was not a failed invention, considering it works well except in complex situations. It’s canon that it was the first version, a prototype, and Wei WuXian was in the middle of improvising it when the sects attacked.

We must not forget that Wei WuXian was only 22 at the time of his death. Yet, he managed to achieve such remarkable feats despite the relentless persecution from society. To label his innovations as failed experiments is not just inaccurate, but it also undermines his genius and efforts.

Wei WuXian Did Not Invent Demonic Cultivation

He invented Ghost Cultivation. The name of the novel is a sarcastic take on how society viewed his cultivation, even getting the name wrong. It shows the hypocrisy and ignorance of the cultivation world, when they called it evil without knowing or understanding it. I got involved with the fandom discourse only last year, and still, I have seen fans explain the difference between the two so many times. I don't know how many times this was said over the years. The thing that people still needed to be reminded of says a lot more about them than about Wei WuXian.

Wei WuXian’s Cultivation Isn't a Failed Experiment

Let’s recall his initial question:

“Spiritual energy is energy; resentful energy is energy as well…If so, why can’t resentful energy also be used by humans?”

- GDC, Chapter 14: Refinement—Part Four, Exiled Rebels Scanlations.

Is Wei WuXian’s hypothesis wrong? Is resentful energy unusable by humans under any circumstances?

No. Because if it was wrong, Wei WuXian wouldn’t have survived burial mounds, forget about becoming a major player in the Sunshot Campaign. No, I don’t live in delusions that Wei WuXian was the only one responsible for the success of the campaign. The takeaway from the whole Sunshot campaign arc was never that Wei WuXian secured the victory. It was always that when people finally came together, forgoing their differences for a common cause, they could achieve the impossible, like shooting the sun. It had always been stated how stupid it was to fight the behemoth that was the QiShanWen. That’s the reason its atrocities remain unchallenged for so long. But it was finally defeated when all the sects united. Hence, all the major characters made contributions to the war efforts. But at the same time, we couldn’t deny that Wei WuXian was one of the major contributors in the campaign. It had been stated by many characters—including his most significant detractor, Jin GuangShan—more than once how Wei WuXian was the reason for YunmengJiang’s contributions in the war.

“Have you heard what they say outside? Things like how during the Sunshot Campaign the victories of the YunmengJiang Sect were all because of Wei wuXian alone—what nonsense!”

- GDC, Chapter 73: Recklessness—Part Two, Exiled Rebels Scanlations.

Yes, he added "what nonsense” to show his disagreement with the opinions. But it was more to show himself as Jiang Cheng’s well-wisher than his actual views. Because if the opinions were completely nonsense, they wouldn’t have such an impact on Jiang Cheng. It is only because there was some truth to it that it struck Jiang Cheng’s insecurity and inferiority complex, and it could drive a wedge between Wei WuXian and him.

Hence, Wei WuXian proved that resentful energy can be put to use by humans.

That’s why Lan QiRen never denied when Wei WuXian had stated that question in the class. Because nobody had ever worked with resentful energy before, and nobody could state accurately that it could not be used. Lan QiRen—the scholar from a sect who viewed knowledge above everything else—though angered, did not dismiss the concept as impossible. Because only ignorant people discard innovative ideas, calling it ‘letting imaginations fly away’. People who value knowledge know every innovation is rooted in imagination. Every scientific experiment starts with an almost impossible-seeming idea. Only when people take the impossible and make it possible do inventions happen. There is nothing pragmatic or rational about dismissing things as impossible. Calling this a pragmatic approach is like terming science and the pursuit of knowledge as impractical. (Besides, Yunmeng Jiang’s motto wasn’t about achieving impossible ideals; it was more about actual principles of karma, not the Western nonsense. I will explain it in another post specific to it.)

Hence, the next question Lan QiRen asked was the progression of that idea—its practical application.

“He spoke harshly, ‘Then, let me ask you again! How do you make sure that the resentful energy only listens to you and does not harm others?’

Wei WuXian ducked while speaking, ‘I haven’t thought of it yet.’”

- GDC, Chapter 14: Refinement—Part Four, Exiled Rebels Scanlations.

But he did think of a method in the burial mounds during the direst moment of his life. When he was stuck in a literal hell and needed to accomplish the impossible to survive. He invented a new form of cultivation, using music to control the resentful energy. He made an instrument, ChenQing, to accomplish the task. And he was successful in controlling the energy. If you are coming from only watching “The Untamed”, then it is excusable if you think he was not in control and was a danger to himself and others. Anybody who has read the novel knows he was entirely in control.

Did Wei WuXian Lose Control of His Cultivation in the QiongQi Path?

No. Jin ZiXuan’s death was not a result of Wei WuXian losing control of his cultivation, but more of losing control of the situation. The entire time, Wen Ning was following his exact command.

“…Wen Ning recognized Jin ZiXuan as an ‘enemy’ when he attacked, carrying out the order of ‘exterminate’ without a second thought.”

- GDC, Chapter 76: Nightfall—Part One, Exiled Rebels Scanlations.

Wei WuXian called it a loss of control, not because he’s an unreliable narrator, but because he's the rare protagonist who actually takes responsibility for his actions. We can take that situation as Wei WuXian holding a loaded gun and Jin ZiXuan trying to disarm him, but the gun going off during the scuffle. In such situation, it was not failure of markmanship of the shooter, but failure of controlling the situation. Similarly, there was a loss of control when Wen Ning killed Jin ZiXuan. But the loss occurred more from the messed-up situation than Wei WuXian’s failure to control Wen Ning. It doesn't change the fact that Wen Ning was completely under Wei WuXian’s control. It is established in canon that no one can control Wen Ning except Wei WuXian, and that’s not from lack of trying, actually, years of trying.

When He Actually Lost Control

The only time he lost control was when the fierce corpse attacked Jiang YanLi, irrespective of Wei WuXian’s repeated command to stop. And of course, after Jiang YanLi’s death, he lost control. But then he was so out of his mind in grief of losing the only person who loved him unconditionally after his parents’ death, and it is very ridiculous to expect him to be in control. After all, with all his genius, he was only a boy barely outgrown his teenage years. It was more of losing control of his power due to grief and trauma than the failure of his technique to control resentful energy.

Wei WuXian had already said the same to Lan WangJi.

“As long as nothing happens to me, nothing will happen to him either.”

- GDC, Chapter 75: Distance—Part Two, Exiled Rebels Scanlations.

And before you claim his stubborn proclamation to Lan WangJi that nothing would happen to him as arrogance or delusion or ignorance. Let me tell you, it was nothing but a desperate attempt to bring some semblance of positivity or control to a hopeless situation.

Wei WuXian Wasn’t Persecuted by the Cultivation World Because He Failed

The situation, in fact, was reversed. He was persecuted because he succeeded. Lan QiRen preluded this during their argument.

“Lan QiRen raged, ‘If you thought of it, the cultivation world would not allow your existence! Get out!”

- GDC, Chapter 14: Refinement—Part Four, Exiled Rebels Scanlations.

Jin GuangShan wasn’t after Yin Tiger Tally because it was a failed experiment; he was after it because it was a successful one, because of the immense power it gave to the person controlling it. The whole “it is too dangerous to be possessed by Wei WuXian” was nothing but propaganda to get it from him. Wei WuXian wasn’t afraid to call him out in front of all, and that’s why he became public enemy no.1, not because he failed in controlling resentful energy and posed an actual danger to society. Wen Remnants’ rescue and protection, Jin ZiXuan’s death, are all excuses to attack him because he dared to challenge the status quo. Because he wouldn’t tolerate corruption and greed like others, but would speak out against it. Because the leaders of the cultivation world couldn’t control him.

“… At best, you’re the untamed hero; at worst, you offend people wherever you go. Unless all those whom you’ve offended lived their lives safely, as soon as something happened to them or someone did something to them, the first person they suspect would be you and the first person they seek revenge on would also you. And this is something you have no control over…

… You, on the other hand, had just rebuilt Lotus Pier and behind you was the YiLing Patriarch, Wei WuXian, the danger of whom was immeasurable. Do you think the other sects would like to see a young sect leader who was so advantaged?…”

- GDC, Chapter 104: Hatred—Part Seven, Exiled Rebels Scanlations.

Wei WuXian was persecuted not because he tried to achieve the impossible and failed. Because he succeeded, and that made him, Jiang Cheng, and the YunmengJiang Sect too powerful to be tolerated. Because it was not acceptable for a ‘son of a servant’ to hold so much power. Because Wei WuXian’s personality was like his cooking, he wouldn’t lower the spice level to make himself palatable for the gentry. The only way he would have been tolerated was by making himself a doormat on whom anyone can walk, as Jin Guangyao did, with a smiling face. Even then, Jin GuangYao had to resort to mass murder to get any actual respect and position. But Wei WuXian’s morals and self-esteem were too high to succumb to that.

Wei WuXian’s Cause of Death Wasn’t His Weapon Turning Against Him or His Method Failing

Wei WuXian died due to the backlash from destroying the Yin Tiger Tally. It was not a failure of method or a loss of control. It was a deliberate move. It was his refusal to let the nuke equivalent of the MDZS universe fall into Jin GuangShan’s hands, even to the last moment of his life. Even though Xue Yang recreated the Tally for the Jin, it didn’t have the powers of the original. Imagine the devastation they could have caused if they had the original Tally, considering the horror they caused with the counterfeit one. How many Yi cities would have turned into graveyards; how many older women would have lived an undead life unaware of their death? This didn’t happen because Wei WuXian stood against Jin's power grab till the last breath. Even his horrific death was a choice he took to stay true to its morals. Yin Tiger Tally was the only invention he regretted, and he made sure to rectify his mistake.

So, no, Wei WuXian did not face persecution because he failed to achieve the impossible. In fact, he did accomplish the impossible in some way. The success of the golden core transfer and the invention of an entirely new form of cultivation are examples. Saving Wen Remnants was never about attaining impossible goals. It was about doing the right thing, irrespective of failure or success in the endeavour. He was persecuted because he did not let the crowd dictate his morals, not because he was not pragmatic enough. Pragmatism, as far as I know, doesn't mean letting people die because it's almost impossible to save them. If it is, then I hope there are fewer pragmatic people in the world. Ignoring the socio-political situation and reducing it to not being pragmatic is an oversimplification of the plot. It is just a refusal to acknowledge the rampant corruption of the cultivation world in general, and the selfish actions of your favourite in particular. And it’s an absolutely normal fan behaviour to point it out.

[lyrisnightblood]

ATTENTION TO THE MDZS FANDOM

It has come to my notice that @pakhnokh is an Israeli and a Zionist, who had always been a pro- Zionist. This was something I didn't know at all, and I have been in the MDZS fandom since 2023. I didn't know until very recently when people on twitter had started to call out on the person.

Probably some of you guys here already know, maybe you don't. I tried to gather as much information as possible about it.

Apparently pakhnokh's anti-palestinian stance dates all the way back to 2014. The screenshot below is from DeviantArt, where she talks positively about Operation Protective Edge

I researched a bit on Operation Protective Edge, and what I found was not only ugly, but horrifying.

This was immediately what popped up when i hit search

"2014 Gaza war, also known as Operation Protective Edge".

I then dived into a few reports by Amnesty International, ICRC, and IMEU (Institute of Middle East Understanding). I will link the reports below, and will also summarise what I found.

Operation Protective Edge killed more than 2000 Palestinians, 500 of whom were children. It was also a seven-week operation (Source: Amnesty International). Seven. Weeks. Meaning this operation, launched on June 8, 2014, lasted for almost 2 months. That's 2 months of killing and displacing Palestinians in Gaza. About 28% of the population were displaced during the Operation.

The report by IMEU also states that Israel had initiated the "Hannibal Directive" twice. For those who aren't aware of what this means, it is an extremely dangerous procedure by which the Israeli Forces "must stop (kidnapping) by all means, even at the price of striking and harming our own forces". Even Israeli people have condemned the military for this directive. All I can say is that the level of bloodlust the IOF possesses that even the idea that their own people may die in the crossfire doesn't stop them...

Amnesty had also described Operation Protective Edge as a military offensive. And this is what a military offensive means:

And people still call them "Israeli Defensive Force".

All of this is to say that this was what pakhnokh spoke of so proudly in the first screenshot.

More screenshots of Pakhnokh being a Zionist:

Like? "If you tell a Palestinian - go back to Jordan or Egypt, he says - go back to Poland"??? The kind of sick joke is this?! I'm so disgusted.

And once again, praising the operation that killed 20000 Palestinians...

All of this summing up to - how have we, the fandom, allowed this monster of a person in, god forbid financially support her even, when all along she had wanted the death and destruction of an entire group of people, just like her country and her government and her rotten military???

How had we accepted a Zionist with open arms, made her popular, when we had also collectively come together to raise funds for Gaza in the year 2024 through various gachas, so that we could try to undo at least one small part of the damage this person had contributed to??

And how are we, despite everything, going to let her off the hook?!

I for one certainly won't!

I will call out pakhnokh, gods forbid it be toxic or whatever, because I am never going to let a Zionist exist in a fandom where the main character calls out against genocide.

And to the rest of the fandom...

Block. Report. Cancel your paetron subscriptions if you have one, and do not support pakhnokh on any platforms. Ignore her completely. Let all her engagements on all social media accounts drop to zero.

Compared to her sentiments on Zionism and ethnic cleansing, this is a very small punishment. But let pakhnokh never be welcomed into the MDZS fandom ever again.

(P.S. i will attach all links related to Operation Protective Edge and the threads from twitter which brought to light about who pakhnokh really is:

https://x.com/Ceru_Draws/status/1950007738789941448

https://x.com/GusuTortleFloof/status/1950212980672434311

https://x.com/hualianarchive/status/1949943539594314007

https://x.com/inspainwithoutp/status/1950150075331604521

https://x.com/inspainwithoutp/status/1950322404921917742

https://x.com/luckymarrowb/status/1950240263151944129

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/gaza-operation-protective-edge

https://tinyurl.com/5n99w4bx

https://imeu.org/article/50-days-of-death-destruction-israels-operation-protective-edge )

[fashionably-zothisficated]

Please, if anybody had ever donated to them, donate that money to Palestinian families instead or other things to help Palestine, maybe even support Congo or Sudan, or even just other causes

[cappucosmic]

By the way, pakhnokh, the famous MDZS fanartist who has presence on Twitter as well as Tumblr, has been outed as an Israeli Zionist and has been crashing out on Twitter over people calling her out.

Around 10 years ago she was overtly Zionist on dA, which... It was 10 years ago. So she's been trying this angle where she declares she's 'changed':

But the important thing is that, before she privated her likes, she was liking IOF propaganda following Oct 7th:

She wrote a huge wall of tweets before her apology that I showed above, and deleted them. I curse myself for not saving any of those tweets, but it does turn out that if a tweet is deleted, it doesn't delete the discord preview of the tweet, so I screenshotted from when I and a friend were discussing some of the tweets(one my friend did screenshot):

The reason she deleted them is because she TRIED to do the "I changed" angle, but then pivoted to complaining that she didn't understand what was wrong with the liked tweets as she believed them to be facts, believed 'Westerners' have a fantasy idea of the "conflict"(never used the word genocide), & complained at length about her personal run-ins with Palestinian freedom fighting.

This included her saying she 'almost died' because she was at an event, left, and 5 minutes or so later there was a suicide bombing there.

Never in those tweets does it cross her mind why some Palestinians may use violence as a last resort and what the reasoning for that violence is. She goes on to complain about people cancelling others over "minor issues," says that this is Westerners "feeling like they're doing something," and then says that "no one has talked more about the Israeli-Palestine conflict online than I did" despite her having been silent due to being a closeted Zionist.

This is a person with a large platform, but I haven't seen much talk on Tumblr about her (though I try to keep the MXTX fandom at arm's length because of usual, far less heinous fandom crazies, so maybe it's just me) so I want to make who she is ABUNDANTLY clear.

Block this person. Cancel your Patreon subscription. Her art is not worth it. Whatever AU she has where WWX gives up fighting against genocide and the Wens get corralled and kept under watch of the Lans is directly in line with her Zionist beliefs. Do not believe her bullshit about how she's 'changed.' She has not. She made it clear with that wall of tweets she deleted. She doesn't give a fuck about Palestinians and wanted a fucking pat on the back for bragging about how she made art of a Hamas soldier and an IOF soldier flirting and kissing. She is nothing but a fucking Zionist.

And despite horrible fucking people like herself, from river to sea, Palestine WILL be free. And just like apartheid South Africa, Palestinian children of any ethnicity and religion will one day play and laugh on the land that was once a horrible ethnostate theocracy that kept starving children in ghettos, refused to recognize interreligious marriage, stole and bulldozed homes to give to illegal settlers, and declared water is not a human right.

Part of the reason the needle has shifted and why Palestine is talked about more and more and why politicians even in the US are growing in their support of Palestine is BECAUSE us talking and speaking up and refusing to allow Zionists in polite society is slowly but surely moving the needle.

DO NOT turn a blind eye to Zionism any more than you would turn a blind eye to Nazism. It's what they want. Do not give them what they want.

[chai-chahiye-yr]

Dated: 7/30/25

Because apparently OP wrote a post about how their ‘10 year old account’ was found and they’ve ‘totally changed’ and people are just unjustly accusing them and being so mean.

Their meltdown on twitter was too obvious so here they are, back on tumblr with their third ‘explanation’ because the ones on twitter failed and they learned what to say and where to weep.

Stop supporting them and their Patreon and donate it to a Palestinian family in need instead.

[mxtxfanatic]

That piece of shit pakhnokh didn’t succeed in whitewashing their reputation on twitter, so now they’ve come to tumblr with a new story about how people “invaded their privacy” and “dug into their past” and how they “shouldn’t be harassed for who they are.” Bitch. Their “past” was LESS THAN TWO YEARS AGO!!!!! They were liking genocidal posts ON ALL OF THEIR PUBLIC ART ACCOUNTS LESS THAN TWO YEARS AGO!!!!!!!! And then they went on twitter A FEW DAYS AGO to make TWO rant posts about how they think “both sides” are wrong, that they believe Israelis “have a right to the land” because “removing millions of people is just impossible,” has the fucking audacity to say this without mentioning the Israelis are already genociding a population of millions of people, then ends the first thread with “anyways, I have kids to take care of” and the second one promising to post their YAOI ART OF A FICTIONAL IOF SOLDIER AND A HAMAS FREEDOM FIGHTER!!!!!

…And now they’ve circled back to tumblr on some “i was just a widdle baby 🥺” bullshit. Even in their own statements, they can’t imagine Palestinians as people worthy of self-defense, just “why can’t we be friends? 🥺” about a people THEIR people have been genociding since 1947. “I was raised on propaganda” is not an excuse when you’re obviously exposed to the evidence NOW and choose to still support genocidal narratives NOW. Every single person under that post needs to be blocked, and I hope pakhnokh experiences every single thing they claim they are under threat of happening to them as their justification for denying an actual factual genocide in service of a white supremacist colonial project they directly benefit from.

[maple9]

For several days, Jiang Cheng questioned Wei Wuxian about Baoshan Sanren in detail, suspecting that Wei Wuxian was deceiving him, doubting Wei Wuxian's mishearing and misremembering, and even if it were true, he doubted whether the mountain could be found, and even after seeing the mountain, he still had doubts. He repeated such conversations countless times. JC did not believe WWX at all.(Chapt. 60: Poisons)

Even so, JC was so desperate for the golden core that he clung to such a lie, and he did not hesitate to impersonate Wei Wuxian for that purpose (despite the fact that his mother had hated WZL, who had changed his surname for the sake of loyalty, so much). As a result of that fraud, WWX lost the opportunity to prove his identity to BSSR forever, but JC didn't care at all and didn't even reward WWX with status or compensation. What kind of “brothers” are these?

[walkingworlds-blog]

Jiang Cheng frowned, “You’re at it again. You don’t really like her, do you? The girl does look fine, but it’s obvious that she doesn’t have much background. Maybe she isn’t even a disciple. She seems like the daughter of a servant.” Wei WuXian, “What’s wrong with servants? I’m also the son of a servant, aren’t I?” Jiang Cheng, “How can you compare to her? Whose servant is like you, having your master peel lotus seeds for you and boil you soup. I didn’t even get to have some!” Wei WuXian, “If you want some just ask Shijie to cook you more. [...]

EXR, Chapter 56

So, I wanted to talk about this specific section.

Let's not delve too much into how the entire topic of conversation is inherently classist (because WWX is right: why does it matter if she's a servant? What's even wrong with being one?), and let's focus instead of what's, to me, one of the most damning pieces of dialogue proving that Jiang Cheng doesn't see Wei Wuxian as a brother.

At this moment, Wei Wuxian is defending his position as a servant, not a family member. He's very much aware of his own social status, and sees no issue with it. That's just how things are.

If Jiang Cheng did, genuinely, see Wei Wuxian as a brother (despite the very classist views he's proving to have here), this would be the moment to say so. To argue "you can't be just a servant when you're my brother in all but name."

But he doesn't do that. Instead, he uses Jiang Yanli's actual sibling-like relationship with Wei Wuxian as his argument… All while being dismissive about it and treating their dynamic with low-key disgust. He doesn't even argue "oh but my sister and you are so close", he argues "what kind of servant has the daughter of a sect leader take care of him like that?" Pretty much repeating Madam Yu's talking points. Jiang Cheng isn't framing it positively, he's mimicking WWX's foremost abuser!!

That's not a defense of WWX's "honor", but a recrimination of how WWX "benefits" from the ambiguity of his dynamic with the Jiangs at this point. The same thing Madam Yu does.

But, back to the whole point behind this post, there's no way Jiang Cheng would jump to use Yanli as an argument if he could use himself. If he felt that kind of connection himself. The fact that's where his mind goes (and the way he speaks about it) says everything.

The point isn't that JC did not care at all for WWX (he did, it was just toxic due to the entitlement and the jealousy he felt. Then that toxicity only grew and festered as the plot advanced, as he became the worst version of himself), but that saying he saw WWX as a brother when he didn't means ignoring the core issue behind WWX's treatment with the Jiangs: he wasn't allowed clear boundaries. He was too close to be "just a servant," but too distant to be "actual family."

The one person who cared to be WWX's actual family was the one with no power to make it a reality, yet this was used by their environment to blur the lines further. An element of the dynamic this exact piece of dialogue also highlights.

[mxtxfanatic]

I 100% agree with this, but I also want to stress on the “to close to be ‘just a servant’” part because I think that a lot of readers, in favor of the siblings reading, ignore that the whole “too close to be a servant” thing is actually a very common rhetorical tool used by the rich to escape accusations of abuse and exploitation by their employees. Requiring your employee to come in and cover for you when you’re too lazy to work because “they’re just so dependable, I can trust them like family,” or making your nanny to abandon her own family to give exclusive care to your children because “they just love her so much” is all exploitation that hinges on the belief that (fake) community ties outweigh the need for clear boundaries, compensation, and humane treatment.

We even see this in the fierce corpse extra, too! A servant was clearly being mistreated by his household’s young master—kicked out of school, accused of thievery and ungratefulness, physically assaulted which led to a disability which killed him—but the young master was able to escape condemnation from the community by pointing out that the servant was treated well by the previous madam of the house before her death, which afforded the servant privileges “above his station,” thus making it so that the master wasn’t at fault for rescinding these “privileges” later. The lack of clear boundaries and expectations is not a benefit to the servant but actually a cover for the master to get away with any abuse they want, all the while claiming that any decent treatment they give to the servant is proof of a “close bond” while any of the servant’s complaints become that of “ingratitude.”

Wei Wuxian is only “like family” to the Jiang (minus Jiang Yanli) when they want something from him, whether it be labor (Jiang Fengmian wanting Wei Wuxian to be his son’s companion and minder) or for him to be their scapegoat (Madam Yu and Jiang Cheng blaming Wei Wuxian for any wrong they feel they’ve suffered in life). And the moment he rebels against this exploitation, he becomes the “ungrateful son of a servant” who “abused the goodwill of the Jiang Clan before betraying them and leading to their downfall.” Wei Wuxian may not have been a literal servant by profession, but the fact that the Jiang treated him as one when convenient and refused to make clear his ties to the main branch of the family made clear how they viewed his role in the clan.

[pharahsgf]

"au where jiang cheng helped the wen remnants" "prompt: jiang cheng never hurt demonic cultivators but was saving them" "au where jiang cheng is good with women and has fifty enthusiastic suitors" "au where jiang cheng invents demonic cultivation" just stan a different character

[mxtxfanatic]

At this point, just stan wei wuxian lmao

[sienne-k]

but but but... where's the privilege in that? they want wwx but with the highest privilege possible. wwx, but the cis white man experience

[halenhusky309]

Basically, mdzs!AU where Wei Wuxian is a rich, privileged cis straight male but also talented. The CEO male lead from a 5 cents romance novel.

The "tổng tài" of the romance male leads that a lot of cis women fantasize.

[tranquilsightseer]

I so love this post. I’ve always found it hilarious how the fandom loves to hate on Wei WuXian but tends to assign his qualities to their favorites. I keep thinking, if you admire these traits, why don’t you just like Wei WuXian? But Wei WuXian isn’t some rich, privileged nepo kid. He’s just a broke guy with a donkey. If MXTX had gone the usual way and written a dramatic reveal of Wei WuXian’s parentage and heritage in the climax, I’m pretty sure these people would have stanned him.

[ferrouswheel11]

thinking about how all of the flashbacks in mdzs set up the idea that wwx can 'do the impossible' and jc can't, how jc, a pragmatist, doesn't believe he can 'do the impossible' and the expectation to do so is an immense burden on his shoulders so he works hard to overcome his misfortune and shortcomings, and in doing so succeeds in revitalizing his sect.

while wwx heroically does his best to 'do the impossible' but ultimately the wen remnants all die and he is killed by the backlash of his own creation.

at the very beginning of the novel, wwx admits to lqr that he hasn't figured out how one could utilize resentful energy without losing control and hurting people. and he never does. he tried to invent a new method of cultivation but he failed, and it killed him.

[chai-chahiye-yr]

It’s kinda incredible how bad this post. The sheer amount of misinformation and twisting of facts? Wow.

The whole post hinges on somehow making WWX the idiot and fool who dies while oh so smart JC the pragmatist lives! Congratulations! Wei Wuxian is dead! Someone read in the prologue and then proceeded to read nothing else but make bad meta.

Well to be fair, anyone who thinks that WWX practiced demonic cultivation should immediately be disregarded in terms of meta. WWX practices the ghost path, gui dao. Xue Yang is the one who does demonic cultivation.

‘He tried to invent a new form of cultivation and failed.’ No he did invent a new form of cultivation called gui dao. People like Xue Yang and the Jin sect kept trying to recreate it by using Mo dao which is why they always failed. Basic novel facts.

Anyway, the first paragraph basically is talking how JC actually did the impossible and revitalised his sect. And completely ignores the very crucial fact that this would’ve been ‘impossible’ without Wei Wuxian. JC continues to be a cultivator because of WWX’s core and he gets revenge on the Wen soldiers because WWX kills them through his talismans and he gets his lands back because WWX is a one man army due to his gui dao

So yeah the whole ‘JC did the impossible because he recreated his sect from the ashes!’ Is nonsense because WWX was a key crucial factor to it all. Did JC do stuff? Of course, but the post has zero mentions of WWX and instead lauds JC and only JC.

The second paragraph though, is a thing of beauty. I was going to ignore this post because posts hyping up JC are a dime a dozen but this paragraph is truly special.

while wwx heroically does his best to 'do the impossible' but ultimately the wen remnants all die and he is killed by the backlash of his own creation.

1- WWX saves the Wen remnants but apparently the months of joy and life don’t matter because they died anyway. The lives of the Wen remnants have never mattered to JC stans because it spoils their fanon too much, and this shows so obviously sometimes. Let’s ignore how they lived for a bit more, ignore how Wen Yuan got his family for a bit more and was able to make memories, ignore how despite the world was baying for their blood, they were able to hold a short party and live and get drunk and laugh the night away. No you see, they died so it doesn’t matter that they lived and someone was willing to save and protect them with his own life and reputation. It’s just so much easier to mock and forget. (Not like people always wish they had even just one more day with loved ones right? Nah they died bro, who cared if they lived for 1 more year)

2- yeah uhhhh how did they die? Anyone gonna mention that? Anyone gonna mention how PrAgMatiSt JC took a direct part in the murder of refugees-the old and women and the weak?

No? We’re just gonna pass over that? They all just died in their sleep? What a cowardly and pathetic statement honestly. ‘They died.’ They sure did. What a great ‘impossible’ JC achieved. Granny Wen was truly a fierce soldier terrifying the sects and had to be taken down by hero pragmatist JC who lead an army through the path WWX had shown him before to kill them all.

3- ‘backlash of his own creation’

Combined with the last paragraph, this sure is an interesting statement. One would think that WWX was up to no good with his nasty demonic cultivation and doing some experiment and killed himself like an idiot because he couldn’t control his cultivation. And the proof is what he said when he was fifteen and hadnt even invented his cultivation yet beyond a theory he threw out so an prejudiced old man would stop sneering at him.

Backlash?

He was destroying the last piece of the Stygian Tiger Seal.

He had already destroyed a piece and was trying to destroy the rest. Now see, a logical thought process would be that if he had already safely destroyed a piece, then something must have happened for him to suddenly fail and the backlash to kill him. Could it be that the massive army brought by Jiang Cheng, and the people he was trying to protect being slaughtered could have caused a loss of control? JC stans say no, everything is always WWX’s fault 👍 do like JC 👍 blame WWX for all your problems 👍 JC won because he lived 👍 ignore that WWX’s death was caused by JC’s actions 👍 everybody knows that protecting your own selfish interests is true pragmatism 👍 if people’s lives aren’t directly beneficial to you let them die👍 do the ‘impossible’ and save yourself 👍

Not to mention the idea that WWX ‘never learned’ and how his cultivation is bad for the mind blah blah doesnt hold up at all in the present timeline and WWX is his full cheeky, mischievous clever self because he’s not being hunted and not under horrible pressure anymore.

[jiangwanyinscatmom]

This is an easy answer and can be summarized as why it's ridiculous in Jiang Cheng's own tantrum words:

Why are you using Wei Wuxian's initial theory (that was proven right) as a flaw while praising Jiang Cheng for literally... doing nothing.

[halenhusky309]

What do you expect from OP who still thinks the Jiang clans' motto is just about aura farming by attempting the impossible and not moral guideline to remind the Jiangs members and disciples to do the right thing regardless how impossible it is.

But sure, let talk about how Jiang Cheng limited himself unlike Wei Ying who dared to do the impossible, as if it was actually not bad to go along with the atrocities committed by the Cultivation World because well, it was so pragmatic of Jiang Cheng (While ignored the fact that this hateful bitch also hated the Wens so much that he didn't even flinch when telling Wei Ying to put a toddler and a granny back in the death camp)