Dear Todd Nickerson, Over at Salon a few days ago, you wrote an article provocatively entitled “I’m a pedophile, but not a monster.” Presuma
By Alicen Grey, published September 28, 2015.
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Dear Todd Nickerson, Over at Salon a few days ago, you wrote an article provocatively entitled “I’m a pedophile, but not a monster.” Presuma
By Alicen Grey, published September 28, 2015.
[…] Pedophilia may seem taboo and despised by the masses, but an honest appraisal of our culture at large reveals otherwise. I propose that pedophilia is actually rewarded and celebrated, and that our entire culture and understanding of sexuality is constructed around what seem to be pedophilic desires. I call this “pedophile culture.” In pedophile culture, women are expected to maintain a near-impossible level of thinness, prepubescent in their almost-androgynous lack of curvature and body fat. Due to this pressure, eating disorders abound in young girls, and women in particular are targeted throughout their lives by a multi-billion dollar weight loss industry. In pedophile culture, the top Pornhub category is “Teen.” “Barely legal” “girls” in schoolgirl outfits play out everything from “virgin manipulations,” daddy-daughter incest fantasies, teacher-student make believe… you name it, there’s porn for it, and it’s been whacked-off to millions and millions and millions of times. It’s fair to wonder whether the only thing keeping some of these viewers from watching straight-up child porn is age of consent laws. Influenced by the porn industry, labiaplasty, a surgery that carves the labia minora down to porn-sized slivers, is rapidly gaining popularity. So are other procedures, like hymenoplasty, which restores virgin-like tightness to women’s vaginas. In pedophile culture, women are outright pressured to regularly shave or wax their nether regions and underarms. The cosmetics industry — again, targeted at women — peddles “anti-aging” creams and lotions that will make our skin “baby soft!” In pedophile culture, we casually refer to grown women as “girls.” We have a word specifically for attractive female teenagers: jailbait. Women are sexualized as chicks, kittens, and babes.
You’ve heard of rape culture, but have you heard of pedophile culture? by Alicen Grey (via timeladyaerynjenkins)
BDSM is abuse: Excellent chart
so almost all of the wuthering heights reviews are like this
fandoms act like pedophiles don’t watch tv, read books, or use the internet. “fiction vs reality” all you want but predators consume content that aligns with their interests. real, actual predators ship adults with minors, possess child porn of both real kids and fictional ones, read stories that show csa in a positive light, etc.
like I can see a predator watching how y'all justify minor / adult ships and feeling validated. they don’t just enact violence outside of the internet. they are real people who consume media just like you and me. those of you who ship children with adults share a space with actual predators
it’s also wild to me that y'all don’t think a pedophile could ever be an artist or writer. I guarantee you they are content creators you enjoy on social media. you’re giving them a space to safely express their interests and you validate their inclination to hurt real children when you promote “hebephilia” as healthy. every time you say “the technical definition of pedophilia is 13 years old and younger”, some adult freak feels better about being attracted to a 14 year old. saved by the bell huh!
you’re harboring actual predators, making them feel great about themselves, giving them a platform in fandom & the ability to harass minors into silence with that platform. it isn’t just desensitizing kids, it’s also desensitizing predators
just like white people felt justified in thinking of black people as all sorts of stereotypes (monkeys, mammies, pickanninies, unintelligent, biologically predisposed to being enslaved, etc) thanks to racist cartoons, justifying pedophilia in fiction is a gateway to them excusing harmful behavior in real life and actually doing it. if that should bother you
76% of people arrested for child porn (cp) which legally includes simulated cp (that’s digitally drawn art,or CGI), have molested actual children. in the late 20th century cp had almost been completely wiped out, but the creation of the internet caused a resurgence and now it’s uncontrollable. but people think enjoying these things in internet fandom are unrelated phenomenon
y'all really surround yourself with people who spend hours drawing cp, writing about it, making headcanons for it, creating communities & organizing celebration weeks for it, discussing it on social media and skype, but then you’re surprised when people who spend their days indulging in the fantasy of adults fucking children… are outed as adults who fuck children. like
(76% of people arrested for child porn have molested children) (in the late 20th century cp had almost been completely wiped out, but the creation of the internet caused a resurgence)
thanks for the sources! I didn’t have enough spoons to look it up
there are some really vile people trying to interact with this post, claiming that “fiction and reality are two different things.” i’d like to add a source that suggests that the brain is more susceptible to thoughts vs. actions than we think it is, and i hope OP finds it as important as i do.
this is an article about Alvaro Pascual-Leone’s neurology study at Harvard Medical. it’s actually almost a decade old at this point. in this study, he had a group play a simple piano exercise for one week, and he had another group only imagine playing the piano exercise for one week. in group one - the piano-practicing group - a new network of neurons blossomed in the brain to accompany the repetitive motion practiced on the piano. in the group that only imagined playing, the same thing happened.
the brain can and does form new neural connections when you only imagine something, even if you take no action. it doesn’t mean that everyone who’s ever had a bad thought is now a criminal, but this is a legitimate study that suggests that a concentrated, sustained effort – like a hobby, or writing, or shipping – results in real, measurable structural changes in your brain. you shouldn’t even need a study like this to prove “you resemble what you surround yourself with,” but here it is.
as a survivor of CSA, i am 100% not okay with anyone engaging with this topic in their leisure time*, and i think that “shipping” is the lamest excuse i’ve ever fucking heard to engage in real, damaging behavior. an abuse survivor who ships “because they’re traumatized” doesn’t get a pass, nor should they consume or create this content. i hate it when this gets brought up because it’s victim-blaming, using severely mentally ill people you don’t even care about as props, and describes a tragic method by which a victim grows into a perpetrator.
nobody’s fucking shippy feels or orgasm is above scrutiny and condemnation, nor are these things above the well-being of other people.
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*telling people to knock it off is not leisure time, trust me. i’m speaking about people who enjoy their interactions around child abuse.
Something to add:
Real pedophiles use nsfw art of minors to groom children in real life. They use the art and fanfic and shit you write to say “Hey look this character that is your age is doing this, so it’s okay!” They legit do this. I’ve had real life actual victims tell me they do this.
You’re not just making them feel valid. You’re making tools for them to do their sick bullshit to others.
Also, content creators (even of massively popular children’s media) being pedophiles is not a myth or hypothetical. Just last year (?) Tom Wysom- an animator for My Little Pony was arrested on charges of possession of child pornography.
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ottawa-animator-sent-to-prison-on-child-porn-charges
An Ottawa artist who helped animate children’s TV shows has been sentenced to 28 months in prison for possessing more than 60,000 images of
oh no, i don’t condone abusive relationships! i just write, reblog, and create art, fanfic, meta, gifsets, and other content that portrays an abusive relationship as sexy, attractive, ideal, and the only true choice for each character. most of the time i put them in happy aus or situations despite claiming that i only ship them because of the angst! that’s not condoning abuse, you silly antis!
this is giving me angry abuse apologist anons in my inbox please keep reblogging this i live on their tears
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I guess people think this is funny when it’s actually just wildly homophobic
Yes, it’s wildly homophobic when a gay person comments on sexual violence and people’s use of “kink” as a free pass for noxious, abhorrently misogynistic, racist and widely bigoted behavior, and in particular the deleterious effects of the co-option of “queerness” by kinksters, including straight cis people.
Homophobia is discrimination against men who get off on flaying women alive.
(originally an anon ask, but i filtered out some language that was a bit obscene)
omfg! yes? if you have posts/analysis/whatever on the phenomenon known as “migrant slash fandom” do share! personally, i find it fascinating, and it proves my theory that the shittier the source material the more fanwork there will be about it. like, there aren’t many/any [omegaverse] fanfiction about Virginia Woolf’s works, but you will find a ton about *insert latest mediocre pseudo intellectual film/show a la BBC’s Sh*rlock*
i feel like it’s less about how shitty the source material is (although that definitely plays a role) and more about whether theres some suitable white dudes to pair off, and whether canon is just vague enough for people to put whatever fanon they want in to fill the gaps. the racism inherent to the migratory slash fandom is best discussed at the link below. its also my favourite source on the subject, it really delves deep:
https://stitchmediamix.com/2020/03/28/migratory-slash-fandoms-focus/
the link below also goes over why the migratory slash fandom is kind of dumb:
https://wildehack.tumblr.com/post/143573156073/so-heres-a-three-am-thought-i-think-that-one
(i dont know that much about the authors of these works so apologies if i missed something)
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fandom + antisemitism
okay fandom.
here’s a hard truth that y’all need to grasp: YOU’RE ANTISEMITIC.
which fandom? doesn’t matter. it’s all of you. it really is. xmen? yeah. marvel? yep. dc? YEP. Star Trek? THE WORST.
let me give you a heads up on some quick, easy ways to stop being trash.
stop “forgetting” jewish characters are jewish (cough, Spock, cough)
listen to jews when we tell you shows like the ray are inherently antisemitic
don’t make jewish characters christian in fanfic or fanart
STOP. DRAWING. HORNS. ON. SPOCK.
if you write a holocaust au, you’re the worst kind of trash (y’all know who you are)
cherik fans, please don’t support people who portray Erik as a priest or a fucking German soldier
LISTEN TO JEWS.
Goyim can reblog this FYI
don’t erase characters Jewishness which is done a fuck with erik
do not make Jewish character demons like please understand history and how that comes into play
don’t be racist
do your fucking research
i have a whole tag on fandom antisemitism if you want to go and see some things of what not to do
please understand that when actors that are not Jewish play Jewish characters this is whitewashing
it is still whitewashing if fancast a Jewish character with an actor who is not Jewish
do not write Chanukah as if it is xmas just for Jews. Chanukah is not like x-mas at all.
If you reach out to Jewish people and ask for help to make sure your fanart or fanfic or whatever is not antisemitic we will help so reach out.
Don’t be an asshole if antisemitic shit is pointed out
Don’t harass Jewish people for pointing out antisemitism in your fave show book movie comic whatever
Don’t ignore said pointed out antisemitism either
Also Yaweh not a term Jewish people have ever used that is some xtian made up bullshit
This made my day pls non jews spread spread this!!!
Yehova/Jehova is actually the name of the god. Jewish people don’t use it cause it’s said not to say it in vain. I’m not religious so I don’t mind, but many do.
Yaweh is not a term we use. We don’t actually ever say the name of G-d except to say like Hashem or such. Jews don’t use yaweh. it’s fucking offensive.
some normal human being: getting off to rape is bad, dont make rape porn
“anti anti” geek idiot: OH SO YOU WANT FICTION TO BE PURE? YOU WANT FICTION TO BE PURE AND STERILE AND ALWAYS HAPPY? YOU HATE CREATIVE EXPRESSION AND WANT TO CENSOR ART?!? YOU WANT TO CENSOR THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE??!?!? YOU WANT A TOTALITARIAN GOVERNMENT?? YOU WANT BIG BROTHER?? THIS IS JUST LIKE 1984 BY GEORGE ORWELL HE TRIED TO WARN US ABOUT THE ANTIS
ao3 stannies be like “yeah i know that ao3 is full of blatant and often violent racism, hate speech, porn of real life people (sometimes real life minors), romanticization of rape, actual pedophiles, queerphobia of all kinds, and so forth and so on BUT it really should have zero moderation whatsoever. don’t you know that banning racism and pedos is a slippery slope to banning lgbt content because those two are exactly the same???”
*throws a brick at a group of fic writers* STOP WRITING RAPE STORIES JUST SO PEOPLE CAN GET TOGETHER
*throws another brick at another group of writers* STOP WRITING TEACHER/STUDENT AUS. ITS NASTY
In my experience
“m/m ships are [usually] the most popular because male characters tend to be written better/are more interesting” is a lie. male characters can be the equivalent of a burnt scone on a paper plate and people will bite into it saying it’s delicious.
These people just actively only seek out male characters to be invested into. There are a lot more female-centric shows out there, shows with female protagonists, shows with a female-dominated cast and multiple female characters who aren’t shoehorned into a tomboy/girly girl, Betty/Veronica, pure ingenue/slut dichotomy, shows with intimate and interesting female dynamics(whether romantic/sexual or platonic) that are worth investing into. Fandom just chooses to ignore them and look into guys because quite frankly they don’t actually give a shit about female characters, especially Black female characters, and will actively hate on them and see them as the bringer of all evil, because to them, only male characters are deserving of worship and spotlight.
And it's enraging.
“m/m ships are [usually] the most popular because male characters tend to be written better/are more interesting” is a lie. male characters can be the equivalent of a burnt scone on a paper plate and people will bite into it saying it’s delicious.
Consensual incest advocates are rooting for an anonymous New York parent who wants to marry their own adult child. Australian Richard Morris, who is pushing to change incest laws in about 60 countr…
The reason this keeps happening is because nobody actually puts language on WHY incest is wrong. Everyone talks about how gross it is, and how there may be genetic defects if there’s a child conceived, and those are easy arguments to dismiss with “well then just don’t have a child or if you do be prepared to care for a disabled child with defects”
The reason incest is wrong and should be criminalized is because there is no way to have socially acceptable incest without grooming. There are inescapable power dynamics in a family unit, that last forever. There are children who are vulnerable and do not have a grasp of consent. Incest is just as bad if the child isn’t biological, the genetic default argument is irrelevant.
In the case of siblings, they are going to be different ages. They also will have grown up together. There is no way to separate an older sibling and a younger sibling from a grooming dynamic when they live together. Most younger siblings grow up seeing their older sibling as an authority figure to some degree which will have an affect on the relationships power dynamics. When you have access to a child for their entire life, you can manipulate them however you want to see inappropriate behavior as acceptable and isolate them from experiences that would counteract that.
There may be rare instances where grooming doesn’t happen: stepsiblings who are the same age and meet later in their development, children who don’t live together, cousins maybe, but I do not think fringe 1% of the time or less cases get to normalize the 99% that are manipulation and abuse.
Even if the abuse or manipulation is unconscious, even if there is no ill intent (which is hard to imagine these days with COCSA on the rise and the average age of first porn exposure going younger and younger every year), it still messes with a child’s perception of healthy relationships.
When you break up with a partner, you have the ability to cut ties with them. You don’t have that luxury with a family member without having some massive effect on family dynamics that will make leaving or cutting off ties a lot more difficult if not impossible. Abusers know this and use this as further manipulation. In even the most benign cases it taints the entire family dynamic.
And none of the best case scenarios excuse the rampant sexual abuse and grooming which make up nearly all of the cases. Or the number of incest cases that aren’t siblings, but parents, uncles, stepparents, et cetera
I knew incest was wrong but never critically examined why because it’s gross and that’s self-evident, isn’t it? When the gay marriage debate was happening, I would hear the case that “will incest be legal too then?” and I didn’t actually have a counterargument, it felt wrong but I didn’t have words for it.
Pedophilia and grooming are vile, abuse of power is vile, and there is no way to separate that from “consensual” incest, period.
#main reason why i can't stand incest irl and in fiction
#i'm sorry if this offends anyone
#but incest in any form is domestic abuse
#you can dress it up in fancy words however you like
#and try to say it's consensual so it's fine
#sorry to break it to you but the vast majority of abuse victims at one point or another will see their abuse as sth normal and accept it #or they won't see anything wrong with it
#if you're conditioned to behave a certain way you will go along with whatever your abuser says
#it doesn't mean you're consenting to anything
#consent is an informed decision
#manipulation does not an informed decision make
#also yes i do think it's gross
#also also whoever decided to use incest in an argument against gay rights #i wish you all the worst
Incest is abuse Incest is danger Incest is damaging Incest is traumatizing Incest is manipulative Incest is violence Incest is rape Incest is pedophilia Incest is not love Incest is not healthy Incest is not romantic Incest is not a cute relationship between family members Incest is not a kink Incest is not a ship Incest is not something you decide to ship or not Incest is not something to decide to ignore or not
If you ship incest, even if you say you wouldn’t accept it in real life, you still make survivors’ experiences less and you are still romanticizing and sexualizing the bonds between family members because of “how great their relationship works” or “how complex their relationship is” or whatever gross excuse you use