purveyor of the homosexual agenda

“nightwing— youthful and androgynous. his name speaks of the forbidden desires that are expressed in dreams.”

[batbabydamian]

i’m still here

Nightwing (2016) #121

[vampantheon]

ahh i can finally share this piece from @gothamhorrorzine ... i've gone through like two username changes since i first drew it, so i'm excited to finally share it <3

[cerezaroza]

azul cerúleo

[stantanly]

the sillies

[mysterycitrus]

they saw u from across the bar and hated ur vibe 💔

[angelgemy]

"Oh, time won't let this heal so I guess I'm stuck here."

[farshootergotme]

Anyone else thinks about how fucked up is that Bruce brought this up

The New Titans #55

When a few years back Dick had opened up to him about this.

Tales of the Teen Titans #50

Like, he really went in for the kill by using one of Dick's insecurities against him. He stained a memory Dick probably held dear.

[farshootergotme]

@moonilit to be completely honest with you, I only know about two times that he apologized to Dick for hurting him.

Batman #605

And

Nightwing (2016) #100

There could be more times that I don't know of, but these are the moments I knew about.

But, I can't lie, there's something that icks me about both occasions.

In the first one Bruce apologizes for hitting Dick, and that's great and I encourage it. However, what message is he sending Dick by only apologizing the one time Dick was the first one hit? What does it tell Dick the fact that he never apologized before about hurting him? What is different this time from the others?

And I don't want to assume anything awful about Bruce, but is he just apologizing this time since not all the fault falls on him? Since it's easier to carry with a shared guilt knowing Dick will not blame him fully for what happened? And I know he tells Dick "It's not the same thing..." (Which I wish referred to him, the father, hitting Dick, his son, but then he adds "I deserved it" and that's... You know how that sounds like, right...? Dick doesn't have to apologize because he deserved the punch, so the times Bruce has hit Dick and didn't apologize must mean that it's because he deserved it, right???)

As for the second time he apologizes, this time he does it properly. Acknowledges what he did to Dick and is apologizing in a place that doesn't put any pressure on either of them to say sorry or forgive. But what bothers me about this moment is that Dick immediately jumps to excuse and justify Bruce's actions (actually making it sound like "everything you did to me it's okay because I owed to you for what you did for me") AND BRUCE DOESN'T CORRECT HIM.

He lets Dick say that "it's alright" that "he was in a bad place emotionally so he couldn't help it" instead of, I don't know, telling him that doesn't excuse what he did? That Dick doesn't have to forgive him and should stop trying to justify the way he hurt him? How can I believe his apology was sincere if he lets himself off the hook so easily? Bruce, did you apologize for Dick, or did you do it for yourself? Because there's a very big difference in there.

[moonilit]

Trigger warning for me probably getting Bruce all wrong DC fans i love you and im warning you, but sharing my FEELINGS [not facts] in here

In the first one Bruce apologizes for hitting Dick, and that's great and I encourage it. However, what message is he sending Dick by only apologizing the one time Dick was the first one hit? What does it tell Dick the fact that he never apologized before about hurting him? What is different this time from the others?

Its an easy apology, you seem like the bigger person when you take the initiative of apologizing for what you know wasn’t your 110% fault. Its… cowardice if you ask me. thats (to me) not a man bigger than his pride more of a man who had a chance to seem like he is. I think thats human, as humans have horrible sides to them, the way i see Dick responding by giving Bruce the out without even looking (or even being surprised like hello) seem like Dick got the read on Bruces pride problem since the beginning.

I also want to add that Bruce here acts how you expect someone who grew up like him to do, (in the first comic) he never had to own up to his mistakes (even if he believes a good person should), he didn’t have parents to raise him, yes he had Alfred but he operated within a clear hierarchy, he might have given Bruce a stern look or a jaded comment or sarcastic remark, might have even lectured him in few occasions but their relationship dynamic was always clear, Alfred was the employee Bruce was the employer, Bruce have always had the power since he was a child, and seem to expect his relationships to continue be like that, the fact Bruce next best friend is the kid he raised just fuel more into this idea for me tbh. Again i don’t think Bruce is this devil unfeeling monster who only exists to abuse poor kids, quite the opposite actually to me he is a human who doesn’t know how to process his own emotional excess and expect everyone else to deal with how he feels, not him, which imo makes him a Coward.

Idk if its actually Bruce himself as a character or his writers refusing to put him in the wrong under any scenario here but probably one feed into the other or smth

[farshootergotme]

I actually agree with you! And now that you mention it, yes, Bruce is used to being in a position that puts him above others, whether it's intentional or not. He's a millionaire, the guy who raised him is his butler and his partner was a child he was taking care of. Because of all of these he's somehow always in a higher position than the rest, and this can twist his perception of himself and others a lot.

For him apologizing is like a king bowing before a villager. It's not natural, it's not something that's expected of him. People will excuse him and he will go along with it because he hasn't been put in a situation in which he has to truly own up to his fuck ups.

It's always something like trauma, mind control, manipulation, etc. And it never leaves him with the true weight of responsibility for his actions. So, when the times comes that he does something unjustifiable, nobody knows how to deal with it because the previous times they could at least give him a justification, a valid reason for what he's done. They don't have for reference another moment like this to know how to go about it. So, they let it go. Because that's much easier, right? Everything stays the same and they can pretend what occurred never happened.

And this became a cycle that keeps repeating and won't stop until Bruce himself breaks it and does something about it.

(not that DC will let him grow as a person without erasing all the development to start from zero once again)

[obsessionsandme]

Too true. And about the original point of Bruce using Dick’s openness against him- I think, personally, that is one of the most hurtful things you can do to someone you love. Like I believe we know historically that Dick doesn’t normally communicate his insecurities in such a straightforward manner (and honestly- who does do that with their parents, let alone Bruce Wayne) and to have this moment of vulnerability used against him must hurt in such a profound way. Personally, I think the people who are Bruce Wayne apologists about situations like this and say stuff like “well, the [insert Batkid] should’ve told him- how could Bruce have known” should read scenes like this and see how open & honest communication just profoundly doesn’t work with Bruce. All it does is open new wounds. Frankly, I think Dick Grayson has good reason to believe being open with Bruce doesn’t work and to never be honest with him again about his emotions.

[h-l-w]

[luciaicefish]

The more due dates coming up, the more I wanna do fan art…

[catmanbowser]

Haha im not crying bcs battinson should have 2 sons (or more) but i am actually.

[michaeljoncarter-deactivated202]

man, not to be melodramatic, but there is something like. genuinely a little disturbing about just how widely accepted rhato's WILDLY classist willis todd retcon is. in all my years lurking on the comic book internet, i've seen a grand total of one person really pushing back & being vocally pissed about it, and that's... so fucked, considering just how bad it is

people who have only read later comics at least have the excuse of only having been exposed to the post-butchery version of jason's origin, but there are WAY too many people who've clearly read his post-crisis robin run but talk about it like the changes lobdell made were these minor cosmetic tweaks

i don't know how you could read a story where the through-line is that this kid loved his parents (BOTH of them) so much, not even bruce wayne could relate to the intensity of his grief when he lost them... but NOT see a retcon that rewrites said parents to instead be neglectful, abusive caricatures of poverty whose son only learned about the concept of love and kindness by the grace of some virtuous rich fuck who takes him in in an attempt to teach him how to be a good person as anything but a fucking insult

"jason grew up in poverty on the 'bad side' of town" and "most of jason's childhood was spent in a (relatively) stable home with parents who loved him" are apparently just completely incompatible statements. because yeah i mean, obviously, it's a lot more realistic if he'd never experienced a single positive thing in his life before he met bruce, right? if literally every single person he'd ever met before bruce rescued him from the hell on earth that is a low-income neighborhood was a morally-vacant piece of shit?

willis todd's rap sheet in jason's post-crisis origin had not a single violent offense. the dude ran numbers and worked in chop shops. he was the criminal equivalent of a mechanic with a delivery gig on the side (and it's pretty heavily implied he was only even doing that because he wanted to be able to give jason a better life)

if that translates to "violent, morally bankrupt scumbag who beats his wife and doesn't give a shit about his kid" in your mind, i mean this in the kindest way possible, but i think you really need to do some introspection on why that is lol

[oifaaa]

The more I think about it the more I wish dc hadn't retconned it so that Willis was a bad father, Jason's back story is very much centered around how poverty can negatively impact people and force good people to do bad things like obviously you have Jason who was desperate enough to try stealing the wheels off the batmobile but you also have Catherine who genuinely loved Jason despite not being his biological mum but was addicted to drugs and didnt have the money to get the resources she needed to get better so ended up dying, and then theres Willis who was implied to be a good dad who had to turn to crime since that was the only way he could make money to support his family not bc he actually wanted to do crime bc he had no other choice and ended up dying as a result, by retconning Willis into being a shit dad it kinda reinforces negative stereotypes about poor people that they're poor bc they're bad people and they only do crime bc they're bad not to mention Jason's shift from being a genuinely good happy kid into being the violent angry Robin I don't think any of it was intentionally done but still

[reebmiester]

No idea if there is a canon explaination but as far as I'm concerned, Damian Talks Like That because obviously the League was only going to get the best English teacher with the most experience for their heir. Which led to them flying in a 75 year old retired professor from London who specialized in linguistic analysis of Early 19th century who thinks contractions are the modern day plague and mourns the loss of cursive pensmenship like a grieving widow.

Damian, of course, was utterly devastated when he showed up to America and could understand NONE of the gibberish they were saying. Tim tells him he needs to "cool it" so he brings a thermos. He "hit the books" just like Jason told him too and Damian still hasn't been forgiven.

Eventually Damian learns perfectly well how Americans speak and now refuses to change out of pure, unadulterated spite.

Alfred is the only sensible person in the entire house.

[moonedknights]

i think the batboys take after bruce in all the worst ways. dick is very closed off and keeps his feelings close to the vest, jason is doggedly adamant that his way is the right way and everyone else be damned, duke refuses to accept help until he hits the breaking point, damian assumes the worst of everyone and over-prepares for it, and tim hates women.

[curtvilescomic]

late Teen Titans artist George Perez mentioned in 2019 interview that " Starfire is based on Red Sonja and Iris Chacon." I had no idea who Iris Chacon was, but yes; clearly.

[sun-moon-talia]

average friend group of ppl in their mid to late 20s consists of someone who just got married and bought a house, someone’s who’s already a divorcee with a kid, and someone who still hasn’t recovered from that one thing that happened when they were 12

[sun-moon-talia]

case in point

[sunlitlemonade]

no see the thing about jason & dick is that they have too much between them. they have too many complications for people who never really had the chance to know each other. that's your little brother, one of your biggest regrets. that's your big brother, the most unfamiliar warmth you have ever experienced. that's your little wing. that's the boy you saw swinging around once and thought "he's the most amazing thing I have ever seen". do you understand. do you. realise. there's miles upon miles of unspeakable grief and they have no way to go about it because they carry their blood in their mouth and yearning in their ribcages and they're too stubborn to say anything or reach out and yet too attached to what could have been to let go and they don't want to admit it but they keep coming back because that's my brother that's my brother that's my brother that's my brother