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I'm out of the Supernatural day to day. Even the month to month stuff. But i just saw bits from an interview and honestly has Jensen Ackles ever just poked fun at himself?
"Jokes" are things you tell against yourself. Bitchiness is unbecoming TBH.
Jared can make a joke poking fun at himself. Jensen makes jokes poking fun at ...Jared.
Man is so incredibly insecure. Sheesh.
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first incidence of good writing advice i've seen in 10+ years on this platform and it's in the notes of a mustelid wreaking absolute havoc in a german grocery store
Camden Casey | Fire Country 3.07 | smile
Something about Sam, especially in the later seasons, is that he is the first one to forgive, the first one to sympathise and the first one to understand.
After everything he's been through, being a pawn jerked around the chess board his entire childhood by heaven and hell, being tainted with demon blood, The Cage - it only makes him further believe in the persevering goodness that exists in people. Even when proved wrong, even when it comes back to bite him in the ass, still he sympathises.
After Castiel went haywire in s6/7 and broke his wall merely as a way to hold Dean back, still Sam prays to him and says that he forgives him, that he still thinks of him as family.
After Mary reveals she is working with the BMOL behind the brother's backs, the same people who kidnapped and tortured Sam for days, Sam is the first one who responds to her and meets with her to try and understand her perspective, even when he is still angry and hurt.
Once Jack is born, without Castiel and Kelly, Sam is the first one to believe in his goodness. To fight for him, even against his own brother, even though this is the son of his tormentor.
Even when they catch Ketch again in s13 and Ketch spews some crazy shit about being his twin brother, even though it's stupid and it comes back to bite him in the ass, Sam gives him the benefit of the doubt. He lets him out of the dungeon and gives him a sandwich.
He is the first to forgive Castiel again and again and the first to make an effort to understand his perspective.
I just... I love sam so much... he just believes so much in other people and their capacity for goodness and change. He knows from experience how messed up the world is and how being put in certain situations can make you do bad things, so he always gives people the benefit of the doubt.
This is why Sam is the best! 💗💗💗💗
the way this show handled sam's relationship with sex is also very far from the typical treatment of the male protagonist's sex life in media. usually, a male character having heterosexual sex is never seen as shameful on or off screen. it's rather considered a bonus point for men just like irl, but ruby taking advantage of sam in his most vulnerable state was portrayed as his corruption and depravity. yeah that usually doesn't happen to male characters. (sera gamble called it sam's self-mutilation and she was so right, but the way this show as a whole carried that arc didn't put enough focus on that. unfortunately, their priority was making sam look like an evil force out of control.)
and the show made good use of it, clouding the judgment of both dean and the audiences in the siren episode. they basically said "look at sam! he's having sex aka being drawn into evil and tainted! he can't be trusted!!" and it fucking worked, yet people still get mad when someone says sam is woman coded lol. it's a funny episode cause they put on suspenseful music when sam was having consensual sex with another adult, and then there was dean, who was enjoying a substitute little brother figure who likes whatever he likes, never objects to him about anything, and obediently trusts him. and dean was the one who judged sam. he's fucking crazy man lmao. anyway, cathryn humphris primarily played with people's internalized misogyny towards cara('a sexually confident woman with a dead ex-husband who only came to town two months ago must be evil, therefore she is the monster'), but the tone sera gamble set for sam worked very well in the episode. do you know how it would be if sam was a traditional male protagonist? spn self-produced the answer with that hideous episode the slice girls. the difference is that dean's judgment wasn't held accountable for it because a man should fuck an attractive woman. and they made her an actual monster. placing the man in the innocent position is the classic let's-hunt-down-the-witch narrative.
I feel like people are so distracted by superficial things like how wild and hot sam looked having sex that they miss out on important things. dean keeps hitting on every woman they encounter and encouraging sam to do the same is one of many examples of how the show thinks of masculinity. dean performs that well because he embodies those values, but sam doesn't. and as soon as sam has a relationship with someone who wasn't approved by dean, not only dean but also the narrative itself finds a way to shame him. just sam doing something without dean in general has been painted as a treacherous deed on countless occasions. even sam making a phone call before his brother wakes up is shown as super shady behavior because that is dean's pov. do you really think that's an average treatment of every other male character in the show like this? lol be serious.
when I talk about coding it's mainly for fun and not that serious, but like it or not, you gotta see how different sam is from the classic male protagonist portrayal for the show this conservative. as I said before, it's not about what he prefers or how he acts cause that would only get you into the deeper misogynistic pit of this heteronormative show. it's always about how the narrative and other characters treat him. so yeah, I'm not saying the writers actually wrote sam as a woman but the show certainly needed a role traditionally given to a female character, so that they could vomit their toxic masculinity on someone. the actual female characters would be fridged, so they needed an alternative. and well, who else could it be when the show has two brothers? dean is already the firstborn son, he had to be the next patriarch of the house and the guardian of their family values. so it always had to be sam. isn't it almost poetic lol. truly doomed by the narrative in every aspect. and it's eventually how the patriarchal system works. not even men are safe in it because the scapegoats who hold up the floor will be needed forever. this show is a patriarchal nuclear family horror.
Now I'm just wondering why 12 ardent supporters gives you lead roles while the great and famous Misha Collins can't even get auditions.
Apparently we've moved from 40 to 20 to 12 fans-of-Jared and still Jared's success is head and shoulders above everyone else's because he works for it. And he's made things successful for everyone he brings along with him. And because we fans consider him and his work entertaining so we support him.
But that's beside the important point that, as one of the 40 down to 12 remaining fans-of-Jared, I am personally getting considerably more powerful! My fan concentration...ness* is higher!!
I can feel it! 😇
(*I know, I'm workshopping it still...)
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ughhhh this week's discussion post is really hard. should we hire an internal or external candidate?
internal has been with the company for 5 years, but has no direct experience with this team that has the opening.
external has 3 years direct experience with a competitor.
there are so many pros to hiring internally, but the external ones i find kind of weigh more. i'm not sure who to hire now. :(
can we hire both?? no one's feelings get hurt???
Speaking as someone who had 2 days of my life and one day of my precious holidays wasted when I was young and poor (it's funny this came up because I just remembered this yesterday and how pissed I was - this was the only time it happened when i was told afterwards, its probably happened on other occasions too though) Please DO NOT waste people's time being called in for interview if you have no intention of hiring externally.
If you are legitimately trying to decide between candidates pick the best fit, whoever that turns out to be.
On the occasion i mention (where 24 hours later i was told they were "hiring internally") I was "interviewed" by 2 young women who told me that the HR and manager i was supposed to be meeting suddenly couldn't be available and who during the interview made it clear this was a time-wasting exercise for everyone involved. It was insulting how poorly run that interview was.
This was for a pharmaceutical company with a well known name. I would never now work for them or encourage anyone else to.
Employ the best person for the role.
“You want to spend the rest of your life knowing Dean Winchester’s on your ass, ‘cause I don’t.”
Okay, I have to ask: how did Dean ever earn this reputation? Because it sure as hell wasn't from canon:
(citations and spoilers under the cut)
7.02 final thoughts? (Idk if this one has been requested yet)
7.02 Final Thoughts
*rubs hands* Ah, yes, the episode that got me into SPN. I could talk forever about season 7.
Fun drinking game: take a shot every time someone makes a different colorful idiom about Sam being insane. Hint: you’ll die, because I counted 25.
(I WONDER WHY Sam didn’t want to tell Bobby or Dean about his active symptoms of psychosis. Truly, a mystery for the ages.)
Even setting Hallucifer aside, this episode highlights so many of the things I high-key LOVE about season 7: the erosion of Sam and Dean’s support network (as tenuous as that already was)—take away Bobby’s house, take away angelic healing, take away the Impala, make them vulnerable and alone and crumbling under the weight of the trauma they’ve accumulated. The broken leg, Sam’s head injury and seizure in the ambulance? Strapped down, badly injured, the fates of their friends uncertain, headed into the belly of the beast? ICONIC. Over the top. Amazing.
It’s a similar kinda thing to Jody’s predicament—sure, she’s capable enough ordinarily, but if you give her surgery and drug her and leave her alone in a hospital with a liver-eating monster on the prowl, the stakes look a lot different, don’t they? I’ve seen this episode approximately one gazillion times but every time I get tense for her.
Quick thoughts on the Leviathans, which have a reputation as an underwhelming SPN villain. Perhaps because of how unsubtle and half-baked they are as metaphor for corporate greed/capitalistic consumption, perhaps because of how their promise of truly terrifying Old Ones, Cthulu-esque devourers, never quite came true (except for a bit in 7.01 and 7.02, yikes!). But honestly I’ve always liked them—I like how their organization and assimilation of knowledge drives the Winchesters deeper underground than even the Apocalypse did; I like how they made the Winchesters’ entire world into something mundanely unsafe and miserable; I like how they showcase the horror of a enemy composed of lockstep drones, the way that Heaven (and Hell, sometimes) tries to be, but never truly manages; I like Dick Roman’s gleeful ravenousness; I like their spooky mouths; hell, I even like the Dick jokes.
Bobby’s solicitousness towards Dean, and how awkwardly he talks to Sam a little later in the episode, is very emblematic of how bone-deep uncomfortable he is around an honest-to-God mental illness, and, well, around Sam’s issues in general. Which doesn’t make him a bad person, or unsupportive, necessarily. But it’s very evident that he’s got no clue what to say to Sam or how to handle him, that he’s leagues more comfortable dealing with Dean’s problems (as has often been the case regardless of Sam’s mental health).
A related, but separate point: the lengths the show goes to to emphasize “look, Dean’s not okay,” while Sam’s in the middle of a psychotic break… It baffles me a little every time I see this episode, when Bobby walks away from Sam all “yyyyeah I gotta go do some work” and then is immediately all “ok but Dean, how are YOU feeling?” It’d be one thing if Dean weren’t emotionally demonstrative, and if Sam were—if Sam, at this point in the episode, was so obviously struggling to such a painful degree that Bobby wants to make sure Dean’s not overlooking his own reactions. But that’s not really the case. Apart from some flinching, Sam’s been very matter-of-fact about the whole thing so far.
This is our first deep-dive into Sam post-Cage, a full season about he returned. And I love it to pieces, you guys. I love how these inescapable, soul-deep consequences are the inevitable answer to the moral of Sam’s story, where he interred himself with his worst nightmare, forever.
Dean after Hell is clawing for moral high ground. Dean focuses on this bleak kind of virtue, this idea of martyrdom and righteous struggle that eventually unspools and reveals itself to be fundamentally unmoored. He needs some kind of redemption for himself after what he was forced to do in Hell; he needs to own his destiny, and he needs that destiny to be meaningful and good, and he channels his violence outward in that cause.
Sam does not take any kind of high ground. He hurts... himself. He gnaws inward. No illusions about how “messed up” he is—he sidelines himself before Dean or Bobby can say a single word; he figures he needs to be on top of it, needs to get out ahead of the danger he could represent and reassure his family that he knows he’s a hazard. Sam has learned to repress and downplay and hide his traumas and his freakishness both to avoid feeling stigmatized and to avoid being a burden on the people he loves, especially on his brother. So when Dean reacts with fear (understandable) and anger (less so), Sam takes it in stride.
Hallucifer is probably my favorite thing this show has ever done. I could probably write another thousand words on Hallucifer alone—on how Sam’s using this face for coping, for compartmentalizing; both to hurt himself and to keep himself company, to sort through his pain and arrive at a place where it’s at all tenable for him to exist.
Sam’s skepticism about professional mental health treatment—his idea that this is a problem he can handle himself, that a doctor would "just stuff [him] full of pills”—is clearly one born of the family mold. This is his dismissive response to Hallucifer!Dean’s accusation that Sam won’t be able to cut it on his own. This denial, this idea that Sam knows he needs to get a handle on this, and therefore that he MUST do it himself, make a science of it, is fascinating.
On the subject of denial: Hallucifer poses a simple question to Sam: are you sure you got out? And Sam’s NOT sure. Faith that he’s free is yet another maybe-lie that Sam must tell himself with maniacal intensity this season, for the sake of his own sanity, to avoid the voice in his head telling him to shoot himself.
That Scene in the warehouse. Dean’s advice to Sam is to trust in Dean as the cornerstone of his reality. Asks him to build his whole world on his trust in Dean. What choice does Sam have? Who else can Sam rely on? What else can he do? There is no one else, nothing else. There’s only Dean, or Lucifer. It’s a dichotomy. It’s so CHILLING.
Especially in the context of what we know comes next—7.03, where Dean lies to Sam’s face, murders Amy, and uses Sam’s ~insanity~ to defuse Sam’s (justified) anger. And then, season 8, and 9, and 10, and, y’know what, the entire show.
Sam drives his thumb into his bleeding hand, and it’s SPN in a nutshell—forever choosing the claustrophobia of the path of slightly less resistance, forever clinging to the misery of a life that’s only just this side of bearable, burying yourself in the toxic fallout because the alternative is unimaginably nightmarish—using the trappings of free will, of defiance, to choose to claw holes in yourself so that someone else won’t. There is no escape.
Dean’s threat of murder-suicide on the phone is so clearly meant to be sympathetic. And yes, on a certain level it absolutely is; and then on another level, it’s, y’know, MURDER-suicide, where Dean’s taking explicit responsibility for and ownership of Sam’s life, even though Sam’s pretty clearly lucid. Dean’s assuming as a matter of course his ability and right to make that decision for Sam. How Dean views and deals with Sam’s instability in season 7 lays major groundwork for Dean’s willingness to let in Gadreel in 9.01.
achievable dreams for the revival: the threat is the empty (canonically awake and mad about it last we knew) has started leaking. ruby and alastair are out, lucifer is next. none of this is explored in any depth, the pacing is atrocious, all of the emotional investment in seeing ruby and lucifer in the room again comes from slightly out of focus reactions padalecki gives us from the background. they film some okay scenes focused on just sam-and-ruby and just sam-and-lucifer, each of which have a couple stellar lines and deliveries, but those scenes are cut. they needed that airtime for an extended visual gag where dean eats a submarine sandwich. this is funny because a submarine sandwich is shaped like a penis. jack does get a scene with lucifer but aside from alcal's wounded calf eyes it's not super apparent that they have ever had a conversation before in their lives.
This is so exactly what would happen...I can't even.
i think we as a fandom should agree to crop jared out of every single photo. i never want to see that man again in my life. sam can stay i love sam but jared is banished to the shadow realm.
Unsurprisingly the OP is a Destiel shipper lol. Wanna bet they swallowed the bitter Destiel hellers' koolaid of lies and slander against Jared as a way to self sooth that they aren't total losers? Btw, @touchlikethesun you all are total losers, you're welcome.
@arkvark2 oh you know they desperately want to believe every lies spoken about Jared by hellers in order to feel less stupid about their fake fetish ship!
"We as a fandom."
LOL it's hilarious when they think their abusive opinions are popular. You can't even make a post like this without getting pushback. You not only don't even speak for the fandom, you couldn't even get 1% of the fandom to agree with that. Hell you're not even a part of the fandom at all...it's the destiel fandom which doesn't have anything to do with supernatural. That's just bad fanfiction.
Before your cowardly, shit-stirring, attention-seeking ass predictably blocks me, OP, I just wanna say this: I'm sorry you weren't hugged more as a child.
Funny thing is when you look at their posts they seem to think they ome across as a thoughtful, open-minded person. They have OPINIONS.
This one post proves their opinions on anythng to be pretty much worthless. It negates everything else they have to say. It's childish and pathetic that they have bought into lies about someone and chose not to educate themselves or listen to others.
Therefore anything else they ever happen to be on the right side of is clearly just a coincidence.
the fact that we only have “herculean task” and “sisyphean task” feels so limiting. so here’s a few more tasks for your repertoire
icarian task: when you have a task you know you’re going to fail at anyways, so why not have some fun with it before it all comes crashing down
cassandrean task: when you have to deal with people you KNOW won’t listen to you, despite having accurate information, and having to watch them fumble about when you told them the solution from the start (most often witnessed in customer service)
feel free to chime in i ran out of ideas much faster than i anticipated
Promethean task: opposite of a Cassandraean task. You have the right information, and SOMEONE has to share it. But it's all in the delivery and if you're the person to identify the problem you WILL be hated forever.
Oedipal Task: (1) Attempting to avoid an unspeakably awful outcome and in doing so creating the circumstances that will bring it about. (2) Trying to solve an problem and discovering that you are in fact the problem you are trying to solve.
Odyssean task: you’ll complete it but it’ll take 20 times longer than it should and involve multiple side quests and mini-adventures
Pandorean task: some people fucked around and now it's your job to make sure they find out
I am fascinated by all of these because they ALL look like major aspects of my current job. 😁😁
Sam Winchester. My favorite character of any book, TV show, or movie in all time. He’s a scholar, a warrior, and a healer. He was chosen by the darkness before he was born, yet dreamed of the light. He lost his mother, girlfriend, father, best friend, and brother (multiple times for the latter two). He defeated Lucifer and Michael in one move, all for the sake of saving his brother. Sam took on the Trials of the Tablets and almost killed himself to close the Gates of Hell. He fought against the angels Gadreel, Bartholomew, and Metatron and joined God in taking down the Darkness and fought the Knights, Princes, and Kings of Hell.
But the best thing about Sam? He’s a normal guy. He loves dogs and loves to read. He’s terrified of clowns. He aspired for a normal life, and worked every day to gets scholarship in to Stanford. When that didn’t work out, he learned to accept the life given to him and make it work. Sam makes mistakes, he struggles with depression, addiction, and who knows what else. But he acknowledges his mistakes. He learns. It may take time, but he will ask for forgiveness quickly and will forgive others just as fast. He analyzes situations and tries to understand the viewpoints of others who he doesn’t agree with. He is the mediator and an advocate of second chances. He’s willing to die for almost anyone that needs his help. Sam Winchester is trying. He’s fighting. He’s a man trying to understand his life, make the most of what he was, and leave the world in a better place than when he found it.
