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SEVERUS SNAPE
a tiny reminder that jily is based on a misogynistic transphobe and her abusive ex-husband
and Severus Snape is based on rowling's cool feminist chemistry teacher, who helped her disabled mom
First thing I see after coming back to tumblr after a few days off is a marauders/james potter fan claiming that calling someone a slur is a higher offence than literal bullying and SA. So I had to meme it.
SMW: A Political Reading or Why Defending the Marauders Means Supporting Humiliation, Power Dynamics, Symbolic Violence and Sexual Assault
A lot of people don't understand âregarding Severus and the SWM incidentâ that in many current legal and psychological frameworks, the concept of sexual violence has evolved to include not only explicit sexual contact, but also other forms of violating a person's sexual integrity. Forcing someone to be naked without their consent, exposing them to others, ridiculing their body or sexuality, these are expressions of such violence. In this sense, what the Marauders do can be considered a form of symbolic sexual violence or sexualized humiliation. And I donât care if in someoneâs country sexual violence is only considered to be rape, the spectrum of sexual violence and abuse is vast. Legal and psychiatric frameworks insist on the necessary expansion and redefinition of its causes precisely because there are many sexually aggressive actions that have been normalized by reducing everything to the apex of the pyramid, which is direct sexual violence. That reduction harms millions of people when trying to present their cases in legal terms and obtain justice. Therefore, that excuse is not only reductive but highly harmful, and it is a dangerous form of violence denial that, in fact, is constantly reproduced in this fandom and should be unacceptable.
Stripping someone of their clothing in front of others is profoundly violent, not just due to the physical exposure, but because of the extreme vulnerability it entails. Clothing is not just fabric: it's a symbolic barrier between intimacy and the outside world. Removing it publicly âand with the intent to ridiculeâ is an act of power, humiliation, and control. This is not a prank: itâs an act of domination rooted in mechanisms of sexualized violence. And even if the aggressor doesnât have a sexual intent toward the victim, the act takes on a sexual nature inasmuch as cultural codes interpret forced nudity as a form of humiliation. Itâs not necessary for there to be a sexual motive, as some defenders of this behavior claim, the very act of forcing someone to expose their body or be partially undressed in public is an aggression, and it carries a sexualized subtext.
Moreover, the presence of an audience that does not intervene turns it into a performance of power. The violence becomes a spectacle, and the crowd amplifies the humiliation. It is a ritualized scene of social exclusion. This not only traumatizes the victim but educates everyone else about who can be humiliated and who gets to do the humiliating.
Yet again, the defenders of the Marauders conveniently ignore this, which is ironic, considering they constantly brand themselves as champions of justice and equality.
Then thereâs this widely repeated idea (which is honestly outrageous, especially coming from people who claim to be part of the LGBTQ community or feminists, when this very narrative has been historically used to violate women and queer people): that âSnape brought it on himselfâ because he was interested in the Dark Arts or because he was unpleasant. This argument is not only false, but it reproduces the same logic that blames victims of harassment and assault in real life: âshe was dressed like that,â âshe was provocative,â âheâs weird,â âheâs unlikable.â Itâs the same mental structure that justifies abuse of power and systemic violence because the victim is âuncomfortable.â And thatâs incredibly dangerous. Itâs also a lie, because James explicitly says heâs attacking him âfor existing.â Itâs not ideological, thereâs no provocation from Severus. Itâs a raw display of power âthe alpha male against a boy with nonconforming masculinityâ a manifestation of patriarchal violence that glorifies the man who exerts dominance and aggression over a weaker man to punish his lack of strength and power. Itâs an aggression rooted in patriarchal power dynamics, which further supports the interpretation of sexual aggression, since these are deeply tied to power and the imposition of hegemonic masculinity, embodied in James and, secondarily, Sirius. Not to mention the profoundly classist undertones, but thatâs a topic for another meta.
Whatâs striking is that the people who defend or downplay Jamesâs behavior use exactly the same rhetoric as those who excuse or minimize rape by men against women, or assaults by cishetero men against queer people or, more broadly, the violent behavior of cis men. These are people who pat themselves on the back for being feminists, socialists, or LGBTQ rights advocates, but who actively defend a character whose behavior embodies everything those communities are fighting against: toxic masculinity and patriarchal male stereotypes.
On top of that, when the fandom (or any community) justifies this type of behavior as âteenage things,â theyâre whitewashing abusive conduct. That has real-world consequences: it fosters a culture where bullying, public humiliation, or symbolic aggression arenât taken seriously, especially if the victim is âunpopularâ or âunlikable.â This perpetuates systems of hierarchical violence: those with charisma, attractiveness, or symbolic power (like James or Sirius) can act cruelly without consequences. We see this all the time in real life when people who commit serious crimes get sentence reductions or are institutionally exonerated because they come from good families, have social capital, or financial support while others who commit minor crimes out of desperation are imprisoned and stigmatized. Thereâs a clear class element in how some people are whitewashed while others are ridiculed or blamed. In the case of Severus vs. the Marauders, the issue isnât just that familiar social dynamics are being reproduced, itâs that the defenders of the abusers mask their victim-blaming with supposedly political rhetoric. Itâs pure demagogy, where they not only blame the victim but completely ignore his social and economic context, stripping him of the material conditions that explain his odd behavior, his appearance, and his friendships. Yes, Severus has a bad temper, but that bad temper has a context, just like his worn-out clothes, his appearance, and his associations. And that context has a deep socio-economic subtext that his haters donât want to acknowledge, because then their whole phony justice-warrior rhetoric falls apart. Theyâd have to take off the mask and admit that deep down, theyâre just victims of established canons and stereotypes, and their identities arenât as dissident or subversive as they claim. Because they hate whatâs truly dissident and subversive. They admire, defend, and whitewash the abusive, the traditional, and the hegemonic through the characters they choose to uplift. Theyâre not political heroes; theyâre sheep of the establishment.
In conclusion, minimizing or justifying what the Marauders did to Severus Snape isnât just a matter of narrative interpretation or personal taste within a fandom: itâs a political stance, whether their defenders realize it or not. When someone defends a scene of public humiliation, non-consensual bodily exposure, and symbolic violence as merely âteen antics,â âboys being boys,â or âsomething from the times,â they are âperhaps unconsciouslyâ participating in the same mechanisms that sustain rape culture, power impunity, and the marginalization of people who donât fit the hegemonic molds of likability, class, gender, or behavior. Invalidating a victimâs experience because âheâs not niceâ or âhe also did bad thingsâ is to replicate the very discourse that countless vulnerable people and communities have been denouncing for decades.
This kind of discourse and analysis doesnât seek to sanctify Snapevâas snaters love to repeat, because they confuse critical analysis and social commentary with beatification, for some reasonâ but to point out that being a victim and being flawed are not mutually exclusive. Understanding aggression in context and denouncing the normalization of certain forms of violence is what allows society to move forward, both inside and outside of fiction. It is also a call for coherence: you cannot champion feminism, queer struggle, or critique of power structures, and simultaneously justify with enthusiasm scenes that represent the exact opposite. Critical analysis is not optional if you claim to be politically engaged, even within fandom. Because fiction doesnât happen in a vacuum, and how we choose to read it, justify it, or challenge it says a lot more about our real-life ideologies than weâd like to admit.
Governments should not do war crimes. This should not be a controversial thing to say.
Those puritanical Tumblr users with no critical thinking will go noooo....you cannot be interested in that Morally Flawed Character.....noooo it's not relevant that they are living in a Morally Testing World....what do you MEAN that fictional human beings do not possess Infallible Ethical Systems which ascribe to my own....
severus snape smiling.
that's all.
For you, O' Goddess of snape, I leave this offing.
"The gloomy hallway below was packed with witches and wizards, including all of Harryâs guard. They were whispering excitedly together. In the very center of the group Harry saw the dark, greasy-haired head and prominent nose of his least favorite teacher at Hogwarts, Professor Snape. Harry leaned farther over the banisters. He was very interested in what Snape was doing for the Order of the Phoenix..."
Lilyâs so-called friends: Wait, are you seriously dating Potter? Werenât you the one saying he was a disgusting bully?
Lily Evans: Oh, I didnât really mean it like that, you girls know what I meant!
Lilyâs so-called friends: Uhh⊠no?
Lily Evans: Well, you know⊠when I said no, I actually meant yes.
Lilyâs so-called friends: So⊠heâs not an abusive bully?
Lily Evans: Of course he is! But like, heâs never done anything to me, so who cares, right? Have you seen my new robes? James bought them for me and theyâre super expensive, itâs sooo romantic!
I'm convinced this actually happened and this kind of problematic behaviour would've been one of the reasons why Lily was friendless by the time she was holled up in Godric's Hollow. Change my mind.
Fuck you, Lily Evans, no one will ever make me like you.
As a card carrying member of the Lily Evans Potter hate club, I felt this on a spiritual level.
Tobias Snape before worse times⊠He is around 28 in the first picture and life is already wearing him down - a few years older in the second picture and recently married - third picture shows a reasonably happy moment between father and son, it wasnât exactly common but a bit more frequent before discovering what his wife and son truly were.
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Making a post about this since several people seem to be confused or unaware of how bad what tumblr did to John Green was; he has OCD and this website gleefully harassed him with accusations of pedophilia because Hazel and Augustus have non-explicit sex in The Fault In Our Stars until he had a mental health breakdown and left Tumblr. The cock monolog was NOT a one off event he overreacted to(though I would argue it's homophobic as the entire joke was "man likes penis" like how tf else are we supposed to interpret that) it was part of a targeted, abelist harassment campaign against a mentally ill author who simply committed the crime of being too popular and writing teenagers accurately.
Like...not to get too heavy but being a pedophile is the most common intrusive fear OCD causes, I should know, I have it and those intrusive fears(not using intrusive thoughts becauss that term has been ruined and imo doesn't convey what's actually going on, they aren't thoughts they're obsessive phobias with no basis in reality) are the worst ones. Makes me break out into a cold sweat and feel like I'm going to cry and vomit at the same time. Sometimes makes me scared to even be around kids even though I know I am not going to harm them because OCD fears are not usually about things you're actually at risk of doing, just things you're terrified of doing accidentally somehow. So harassing someone who has been very open about his OCD like that specifically with unfounded and untrue accusations of csa is an ableist hate crime as far as I'm concerned. Every single person who took part in that should be fucking ashamed and I assume they are given that all most people remember is the fucking cock post. Ofc it gets boiled down to that, to hide what people were actually saying and how bad it was. It's just a guy overreacting to a silly post about sucking dick, nevermind that he's a YA author with a debilitating mental illness, nah. He's just being a wet blanket.
I won't say the Green Brothers are perfect they've both dropped the ball imo on a few occasions, but that's normal for huge public figures and does not justify what happened. No one should ever take pride in that moment, nor should they behave as though it was just one stupid post, and if you didn't know what actually happened that's because people act like it was just a stupid post, but it wasn't. It was so much more than that.
He also said at one point that the cock monologue was not the last straw. The last straw was somebody mailing him a photograph of his house. With his son's window circled. And a note about that's where they were gonna enter the house to start killing his family from.
So. You know. THAT'S what they're claiming is "just funny bullying he couldnt take ha ha".
This is tangential to very correct and important point of this post but John Green pointed out that the cock monologue was homophobic at the time. He handled that incident really well and it's always bothered me to see the narrative that that drove him off tumblr take hold. John Green needing to take a step back from the way he interacted with fans as his fame grew and became more mainstream was probably inevitable, but the way he was treated on tumblr was a real moment of shame for this website.
I am just learning about this today, and yet I am not surprised.
If you follow me for some times you'll know that while I really enjoy Tumblr, I also recognize how much of a bad place it can be. Never as bad as Twitter or TikTok, one is an infested wound the other is a machine designed to reduce your brain to mush, but Tumblr is still a place of mob-thinking, vapid backstabbing and self-righteous enraging.
How do you feel about Draco?
Well, Iâm not a fan of Draco, but I donât hate him either. Heâs not a character that particularly grabs my attention, although my little nephew could be an excellent Draco Malfoy because physically he looks exactly like he's described in the books (xD). But in the end, I think Draco represents the typical school bully who talks a lot but does little, who shows off a lot but has no guts and honestly, that kind of person has always seemed annoying but harmless to me.
On the other hand âand Iâm not hiding itâ I empathized a lot with him toward the end of the saga because he basically reminded me of many people Iâve known who got involved in religious cults because of their parents, and as they grew older, they started realizing they didnât like those environments but didnât know how or couldnât find a way to get out. Iâve known a lot of boys like Draco, and if Rowling wanted me to hate or despise him, she shouldâve made him, I donât know, publicly stripped someone much poorer and more vulnerable than him in front of the whole school. Because I just canât bring myself to hate a kid with a brainwashed mind who grew up in a cult-like environment and ends up having to dive headfirst into the cult and become complicit because the leader has his family threatened. Forgive me if I give the benefit of the doubt to grooming victims.
I suddenly had a thought. People are always saying that Severus was friends with a group who wanted Lily dead, but she also did the same thing. Not only she becames besties with a group of people who almost got her (former) best friend killed, she married one of them.
The parallels are just wild, because I don't think it was intentional. I don't think we are supposed to compare the death eaters to the maradeurs, but it fits (in a minor scale, of course). Both Lily and Severus ended up siding with people who wanted to hurt their friend. It's too bad that Severus is the only one who regretted it, and we are supposed to believe Lily was super happy with her decision until she died. It could have been so interesting if they both regretted choosing a side and leaving the other behind. It would make their friendship more balanced, even if it was still dysfunctional.
Yes, exactly, the paradox lies precisely in what youâve pointed out. The narrative leads us to empathise with Lilyâs point of view on the basis that Severus associates with people who are potential threats to her (and I say potential because at no point is it suggested that Lily herself was ever harassed or bullied, quite the opposite, in fact). Yet, in an ironically twisted turn, itâs Lily who ends up not only befriending those who had actually abused and mistreated Severus directly, but marrying one of them.
Clearly this wasnât intentional on Rowlingâs part, but it results in a fascinating ethical paradox from a literary standpoint. She wants to sell us the idea that Severus is in the wrong, but isnât Lilyâs position, morally speaking, even more questionable? After all, Severusâs friends never targeted her, never tried to kill her, never publicly humiliated her by stripping her in front of the entire school. Her future husband did, and so did the friends he kept, who later became hers too.
This is exactly why, under critical scrutiny, Lilyâs character becomes so ethically fraught. As many others have pointed out, the core issue is that the narrative pressures the reader to choose a side: it pushes you to see one set of actions as immoral and the other as natural or even commendable. But you canât force a reader to buy into a moral framing that is so fundamentally inconsistent and illogical.
Yes, Lily didnât owe Severus anything by the time she married James, but thatâs not the point, and itâs something weâve repeated ad nauseam. Itâs not about who owed what to whom. Itâs about the fact that the narrative wants us to see Lily as some sort of moral compass â as the gold standard of ethical clarity â while simultaneously expecting us to ignore that her idea of âgoodnessâ includes marrying an abuser. Sorry, but that just doesnât hold up.
When Severus's side decided to personally target Lily, he didn't even hesitate for a moment before risking his neck to ask Voldemort himself to spare her, and even got him to agree. Then he goes an extra mile by secretly approaching Dumbledore to ensure Lily's safety, and finally deciding to switch sides and become a double agent at great personal risk, all to save Lily's ass.
But when Lily's side was personally targeting Severus continously for 6 - 7 years, all she ever did was try to gaslight him by telling him the bullying wasn't too bad and that he should be grateful to the Marauders for not killing him or using dark magic on him; and the only time she actually stepped up, it was an half hearted attempt, and she ended up making it all about herself than about the actual victim, then finally turned it into an excuse to drop him from her life forever. All the while harboring a secret crush for the guy who was bullying her friend.
Both of their actions speaks louder than what the narrative was trying to force onto the reader.
HARRY POTTER AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS (2002) dir. Chris Columbus â ALAN RICKMAN as Severus Snape
âThe Snape fans are always excusing his crap and trying to paint him as a good person, when the whole point is that he wasnât a good person, he was a bad person who did some good things.â
No, sorry, but that passive-aggressive take is rubbish. Snape wasnât a bad person, he was a person with a terrible attitude and a difficult personality, and thatâs very different from being bad. We, his fans, are fully aware that he was insufferable, and we like him for that. But that doesnât mean weâre going to attribute to him a kind of cruelty or wickedness that simply isnât there.
Because a bad person doesnât spend their life trying to make up for their mistakes. A bad person doesnât give up their own life to repay a debt. A bad person doesnât risk everything to protect people who constantly scorn him, distrust him, judge him, and throw dirt on his name. A bad person doesnât die to help bring down the villains. Thatâs not what bad people do.
What makes Severus such a complex character isnât that he was a bad man who did some good, itâs that he was a good man, deeply flawed, often harsh, and far from pleasant or likeable. And that, precisely, is what makes him so compelling.
The fact that they think they can sum up such a complex character like Severus with facile concepts like "good" and "bad" is reflective of their superficial and shallow black and white morality and worldview.
Also calling the analysis and meta that Snape fans present as explanations of his behaviour, as excuses, is very telling of Snaters' own behaviour. Because they're the ones who actually comes up with excuses all the time to defend the actions of their faves, by downplaying serious offences like SA and attempted murder. That is why they think Snape fans are excusing Severus' actions when we are only trying to explain and understand why he acts the way he does.
I think a lot of people in the HP fandomâespecially within niche circles like the Marauders subfandomâstruggle to understand that their headcanons, tropes, or widely accepted interpretations arenât universal truths. Itâs easy to get deeply invested in fanon ideas when you love a character or a community, and those ideas can start to feel real. But itâs important to remember that fictional characters arenât more real than the actual people behind accounts online.
Iâm bringing this up because of the recent discourse around Mary Macdonald. It honestly feels like some folks canât wrap their heads around the idea that not everyone shares the same headcanonsâlike her being Black or other characters being queerâespecially when those interpretations are primarily popular in specific spaces like the Marauders fandom. Those headcanons are completely valid and meaningful, but theyâre not official canon, and theyâre not known or accepted by everyone.
Assuming that everyone should already be familiar with these interpretationsâand then reacting with hostility when theyâre notâisnât fair or helpful. Not everyone engages with the fandom the same way, and not everyone is tuned into the same corners of it. We need to allow room for different perspectives without assuming bad intent.
I am extremely intolerant of racism of any kind or bigotry, but I am completely unable to comprehend this argument. ïżŒ