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Just as the world will be reborn in FIRE,
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Probably unpopular but Ozai didn't "invent" or "introduce" child abuse in the family. You might discard the idea that Azulon was the same way towards Ozai simply because Iroh turned out 'just fine'.
Firstly, Iroh was a successful general once, joked about burning Ba Sing Se down in best humour and would've most likely even stayed on that path were it not for Lu Ten's death.
Secondly, what about "You insulted my first born, my favourite son, right after the death of his own son, my grandchild? Outrageous! Now go kill your own kid" sounds like a healthy father-son relationship to anyone?
None of that excuses Ozai's own shitty behaviour of course, but it seems foolish to assume he was the only one with a dark track record in the very family that, mind you, caused the genocide of the air nomads and the southern waterbenders one and two generations before.
Damn, Ozai really puts Iroh to shame. Probably Iroh has his sheer strength (so does Ozai) but not this agility. Ozai also can arch the fire steam toward the target from such distance, so much control.
Father-Daughter smirks!
… Tell me, where did you get that from?
“For so long, all I wanted was for you to love me, to accept me. I thought it was my honor that I wanted. But really, I was just trying to please you.”
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The Storm (Book 1:08):At the age of 13 Zuko refused a duel with his merciless father.
Sozin’s Comet, Part 4: Avatar Aang (Book 3:21):At the age of 13 Aang showed Ozai the mercy he could not give to his own son.
Since you just got an ask of how Katara looks at Ozai when he’s bot looking, let’s turn the tables! How about a 9C for Ozai? ;)
Another Storms-specific request! All this blushing is getting out of control, I tell you.
That can’t be it! Where’s the rest of it?
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Don’t we both know where his place is?
'𝙽𝚘𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚛 𝚎𝚗𝚍𝚜 𝚙𝚘𝚎𝚝𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢. 𝙸𝚝 𝚎 𝚗 𝚍 𝚜 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚠𝚎 𝚝𝚞𝚛𝚗 𝚒𝚝 𝚒𝚗𝚝𝚘 𝚙𝚘𝚎𝚝𝚛𝚢. 𝙰𝚕𝚕 𝚝𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝚋𝚕𝚘𝚘𝚍 𝚠𝚊𝚜 𝚗𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚛 𝚘𝚗𝚌𝚎 𝚋𝚎𝚊𝚞𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚞𝚕. 𝙸𝚝 𝚠𝚊𝚜 𝚓𝚞𝚜𝚝 𝚛 𝚎 𝚍.’. independent and selective Princess Azula of ATLA
Fire Lord Azula Quizás hubiera sido más temible que Ozai. También quizás en circunstancias normales, sin guerra o por lo menos un buen padre, Azula hubiera sido un buen Señor del Fugo. Oh sí oh sí.
[Image description: A waist up portrait of Azula. She is staring straight at the viewer with an apathetic, somewhat calm, expression. Her hair is down, except for some pulled up into a traditional top knot with the Fire Lord’s hair piece in it. Likewise, she is wearing the Fire Lord’s burgundy robes with pointed shoulders and a high collar with golden accents. The robes fall slightly open near the middle, revealing a hint of her Fire Nation uniform underneath. Her hair, eyes, and mouth all have the same dark red shading as the robes. That, combined with the plain beige background, gives the impression of a sepia photo.]
[English Translation: Perhaps she would have been more fearsome than Ozai. Also, maybe in normal circumstances, without war or at the very least with a good father, Azula would have been a good Fire lord. Oh Yeah.]
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“That sweet little kid grew up to be a monster.”
((You don’t grow up to be a monster, you become one. It’s a choice, not a destiny .))
Yeah, and most people don’t even want to consider the fact that Zuko referred to Ozai as “[being made] good again” during Aang’s glue-bending suggestion. We never even saw Azula being “good” at a tender age, yet she’s the one who’s exonerated for all her crimes while Ozai never had a past worth considering? It’s an interesting double-standard, for if Azula was “made” into the person we see on-screen, wasn’t Ozai as well?
Indeed!
And yeah, there is definitely quite a double standard with which people treat these two characters. I find this really annoying!
If Azula deserves understanding & sympathy (and a redemption arc), then so does her father - whose background is merely hinted at, if anything - and what we do get to see seems to be pretty tragic. For the most part, though, it is ignored and unaddressed, which is a shame - also on a storytelling level (depth & comprehensibility). Because, let’s face it, the writers didn’t give a fuck, and wanted to get rid of him with the easiest, most cliché solution - that is why (but, then again, I have seldomly come across such an incompetent bunch as Bryke, let alone that moron Yang, who just turn their stuff into a huge inconsistent mess over time, throwing away promising content in favour of one-dimensional crap).
But if we take the hints regarding his similarity to his son, personality-wise, as well as Iroh’s additional comments (concerning his bad conscience for not providing support for his brother) seriously, then it is pretty sure to say, that he wasn’t such a bad guy to begin with, with just as much potential for goodness like Zuko. Which is something that Zuko acknowledges in the prison scene dialogue, where he states that he considers it a possibility for his father to have a change of heart, just like he had (and this is a disillusioned Zuko at that).
The comment below also puts it rather nicely:
Most of this aligns with my own headcanon for Ozai. Like you, I find him a character with untapped depth and an undercurrent of tragedy due to the way his father treated him. People tend to forget he likely grew up without a mother; without any exposure to love (unlike Azula, who knew what love was from observing Ursa and Zuko at the very least and still became a hugely unrepentant jerk). Out of all the members of the Royal Family, Ozai had the least chance to become anything apart from what he was. He had no support system and was likely made to feel inferior and unwanted by the only person who could - and didn’t - provide parental guidance and love. That is tragic.
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I agree - except maybe for Azula being unrepentant for the most part.
And yes, I firmly believe that both Azula and Ozai DO have the potential for redemption.
And yes, people can make new choices, according to new insights, offered by life’s lessons (and, ultimately, become better human beings) - because that is what happens over and over irl, that is what is realistic. And this can happen at any time in a person’s life, no matter the age!
Anyway, if the dickhead writers won’t grant this to them (along with a properly done characterization, i.e. dynamic, multidimensional and complex, like a real human being) - then I will!!!
P.S.:
One good example of such a later redemption would be Iroh, who certainly was older than his brother when he had his change of heart.
Before that, though, he was a firm believer in FN ideology, his father’s right hand, had a substantial military history, and casually joked around in his letter about burning a whole city to the ground - thousands of innocent civilians included - quite the laughing matter, huh!?.
Yet, people love him as the wise and nice uncle (I mean, who doesn’t!?) - because this is the phase of his life they actually get to see in the show. I wanted to point this out - this stark contrast of Iroh’s past and present, to give people an idea of the scope of his change, and what happens to be in the realm of possibility for characters (then they, perhaps, wouldn’t be so harsh with Ozai, especially if his background was shown more clearly, as well).
What it took for Iroh to transform into his later self was a major tragedy - losing his son Lu Ten - his personal soft spot. He has come a long way since then - and I bet this hasn’t happened overnight. Yet, the Iroh we get to see is what he turned into - and that is both impressive, as well as hope-inspiring. If he can do it, so can the others.
It was certainly easier for Iroh to pull off, though, given he didn’t have such extensive family-related traumata, and the resulting damage, to deal with, but that only means Ozai has a bit more work to do, and not that it’s impossible (this word doesn’t apply regarding the given topic anyway).
What that takes is a) one (or more) major key moments, plus b) their soft spot being pushed (in whatever way - can also be positive).
With Ozai, that would be a) his defeat, incarceration, and throne + bending being taken away (amongst other things), and b) Ursa (!!!).